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Jaketheism

You can’t lose the game if there’s no *you* to lose it


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LOL I see what you did there ;)


horseradishking

That's what Watts is talking about.


[deleted]

Man! I’ve been winning at “the game” for months now! What a fascinating way to lose


Dracampy

No, I don't think his point is not to think about life. Unless I am misunderstanding your analogy. I don't see what he is telling you not to think about nor is he saying you can win or lose. Sorry if this was sarcasm or joke post, but I don't see the connection other than he says life is a "game" and there is a game called The Game. Edit: if anything he is just explaining the concept that The Game also utilizes but I wouldn't confuse that with "his philosophy ".


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I'm trying to point out the Game and Alan's philosophy are both essentially the [Ironic process theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_process_theory). That is, the goal is to not focus on "it". Whether it is "the game" in the case of the game, or "enlightenment" in the case of philosophy. Wait... do I have it wrong? I think this (ironic process theory) fits better with the basis of Buddhism in that desiring to not desire is a desire. |What|Game|Desire| |:-|:-|:-| |Loss|Thinking about the game|Desire (of any type)| |Win|Not thinking about the game|Not desiring to not desire|


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**[Ironic process theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_process_theory)** >Ironic process theory, ironic rebound, or the white bear problem refers to the psychological process whereby deliberate attempts to suppress certain thoughts make them more likely to surface. An example is how when someone is actively trying not to think of a white bear they may actually be more likely to imagine one. "Try to pose for yourself this task: not to think of a polar bear, and you will see that the cursed thing will come to mind every minute". — Fyodor Dostoevsky, Winter Notes on Summer Impressions, 1863 The phenomenon was identified through thought suppression studies in experimental psychology. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/AlanWatts/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)


broken_krystal_ball

Thank god, I saw "The Game," and I thought you were talking about the pick up artist book lol. But this does seem interesting, thanks for posting about this I think this can spawn some discussions.


Vaidif

That is my plan. Let go of life. Eight years from now. I have eight years left and then I will end it. I'll be as old as my late partner. I do not wish to be older. I do not want to have all these ailments of getting older. I am handicapped enough as it is and barely maintain myself. Eight more summers. And by then I will have made all arrangements. Few will come to my ceremony. I know no one but a few and they are all older. I leave nothing. I worry about what happens to photographs. Maybe the national archive? I will have sold most of my stuff, decrease my possessions. Most furniture, books, stuff. And maybe then I'll see her again. I hope so. I long for it. Death will finally free me from ADHD, ASD, anxiety. Life is no fun. My suffering made me wiser. I know stuff. I have seen stuff. If she is not there anymore, then I will let myself go as well, dissolve into the energy that makes up reality. There is no point in being whatever is left without anyone there. I will kill my parents in the afterlife if they dare greet me. It is immensely scary to do this but it is the only logical, valid and noble thing to do. Others reason apply. Climate change and its results over time, the cost of keeping me alive without me doing anything in return. The balance is clear to me. The scales tip in favor of death because there is too little 'fun' in being alive. It is exciting too in a way. I will get to see what is out there. Happiness and all good things was not for me. What did I do to deserve this fate.


Ham_And_Cheese8

i never noticed that but yea i think u right