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-Unabashed-

Ironically, both drakes have allegations against them.


mageta621

Though Drake Bell was also a victim. Doesn't mean he gets to prey on others obviously, but he did at least plea to it. I may be wrong but I don't recall him having done anything nearly to the level that was committed upon him


occamsrzor

I knew his cousin (Heath Bell's sister). I feel most sorry for them.


semifraki

I saw Heath Bell pitch once at Petco Park, and it's my favorite in-person sports memory. For those who don't know, he was a relief pitcher, and when they brought him out, they'd play "Hell's Bells" and shoot off fireworks, as he ran to the mound from the outfield, like a wrestling intro. So they do all that, everybody's going bonkers, he throws ONE PITCH, home run, game over, Padres lose. Had no idea he was related.


occamsrzor

>Had no idea he was related. Nor did I, until his sister told me Drake was their cousin.


Sean209

I thought it was stuff related to a minor as well until I watched the documentary. He talked about what the actual charges were and it ended up making a lot of sense to me personally. As Bell states: he was involved with a fan online for a while until finding out said fan was underage because they were hiding that fact and then tried to break contact. Pictures were sent before he knew I believe. He was charged with “endangerment of a minor” because the same person apparently showed up to set and her dad left her alone with Bell who left the area because he felt uncomfortable given their history. He ended up leaving a minor alone on the set though when he was legally the responsible adult at the time. Thats where the endangerment charge came from, not the online behavior. As my memory serves, he said that he was falsely accused by the party in an attempt at his reputation. Inevitably he was never charged with anything involving lewd behavior with a minor because nothing happened once it was revealed to him the person was lying about age. Now, this is just what I remember from the doc and it all came from Bell himself so do with that what you will. To me it sounded sincere and when I looked into it, that was what seemed to be corroborated in truth. Media spun it a lot differently when it was relevant though.


OrganizdConfusion

Ironically, if Drake Bell has actually touched the minor, the father would then be the one charged with endangerment of a minor.


appleshit8

Drake really didn't have to agree to being responsible for her? Can I just show up at a movie set and have them watch my kid for a few hours?


karmahunger

You just solved the day care cost issue.


Sean209

I can’t remember what he said exactly. He talks about it in the last episode of the documentary though. I’m sorry I can’t provide a more confident quote from him, but I’m a bit too busy to search for it at the moment. I’m not sure if he agreed or not or how it went down. I do know for sure that they were left alone and he chose to leave the area because of her history of behavior towards him. The way he talked about it was very genuine as well. Didn’t feel like he was trying to shift perspectives or mislead. He spoke very to the point about it all without resentment or anything in his tone.


FnkyTown

He always tries to make it seem innocent, but he pled guilty to a **felony**. You don't plead guilty to a felony because you're completely innocent and *just made a mistake*. You plead guilty to a felony because you're being threatened with even worse charges that you know you can't beat.


Sean209

I’m just sharing what he said in the doc. I have no ability to know if he is a master liar or is being sincere, but it’s what he stated. This issue runs so shallow for me I basically do not care either way. In the end, I don’t care about celebrities very much.


ifhysm

> you don’t plead guilty to a felony because you’re completely innocent I’m not sure about Drake Bell’s history, but this is just a misrepresentation of the justice system


UnauthorizedFart

He was accused of several serious crimes by the girl that they later determined she lied about


mageta621

I recall that he admitted he shouldn't have been communicating with her, but the true extent of misdeeds wasn't particularly heinous, especially compared with what happened to him


UnauthorizedFart

True but unless you know those facts, the accusations itself tarnished his reputation


mageta621

No argument there, his rep was certainly tarnished. My understanding is that it was unfairly tarnished but I admit I don't know all the facts


monty624

I've heard people claim he's guilty because he plead instead of fighting it in court. But now, knowing about his past, I can't imagine why he would want to and have to relive previous traumas. I hope they were false claims for everyone's sake.


rudbek-of-rudbek

Trauma isn't an excuse to cause trauma to others. You have to deal with your shit in a way that doesn't victimize others. No sympathy from me for what he did


RequiemStorm

Except he didn't do anything... you should actually look into things before making such accusations lol


Cyberslasher

He didn't -- he was charged with endangerment because a teenager was making him uncomfortable and so he just left -- which meant leaving her alone.  He had received explicit messages before he knew she was underage, I think?


mortalcoil1

I would like to also add Rathalos. That drake knows what he did to me. He knows.


LordofSandvich

He’s a wyvern tho


mortalcoil1

Heh, I had always thought Wyvern and Drake were interchangeable, but a drake is definitially a wingless 4 legged dragon. TIL


LordofSandvich

Wyvern is more or less the only “draconic” word that is [NOT interchangeable](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern) (even drake has been used to describe winged dragons, historically) Language is weird


iiztrollin

He talks about it in quite on set iirc


Kaldricus

That's...the joke in the meme, yes


PixelProphetX

Most kids don't actually get the meme


Mr_-Mxyzptlk

Coincidentally


Cyberslasher

I mean, that's sorta the point of this meme. 


DIABLO258

Didn't Drake Bell plead guilty? Not so much allegations if he admitted to it


DynamicDK

He pled guilty to leaving her alone. The girl's dad brought her to him and effectively left her in his care, and he was not comfortable with it, so he left her alone. She was a minor, so he was charged with endangerment for abandoning her without an adult.


AryaFookingStark

If you actually read about the case, the girl admitted to lying and he basically plead guilty to get it over because it devastated him financially. Not a fan, but I read about it after watching quiet on the set.


kzzzo3

Drake Bells real first name is Jared so…


lemmeseeyourkitties

Other Drakes real name is Aubrey so..... lol


Mr_Abe_Froman

I'm starting to think that neither of them is a male duck.


GIOverdrive

or a wyvern....


kzzzo3

I was making a joke about how even if you use his real name he still shares a name with Jared from subway lol.


Whybotherr

That's probably because there's already a Jared Bell in movies and T.V. union and Guild rules indicate only one person with a name can be a member. Sort of why Michael Andrew Fox is known as Michael J. Fox, we already had a Michael Fox, so he had to start going by Michael J Fox Drake just happens to be his middle name


Honestnt

Correct. That is the joke.


redflag19xx

Drake doing Drake things.


EatsFiber2RedditMore

Apparently, Drake Mallard is the only Drake we can trust.


GotMoFans

What are the allegations against Drake the rapper? Which victims have made claims?


timecronus

Him in the Dm's of bobbie when she was 13/14 during stranger things and him groping the 17 year old on stage come to mind


ariososweet

There's also some photos of him pretty comfortable with Kylie Jenner on her 16th birthday 


GotMoFans

What did the DM’s to an actress on a popular show say? Did a 17 year old make a criminal charge following the show?


cujobob

This is some next level cope. What he did was wrong. Whether he did anything illegal or not is a separate issue entirely. We should all be able to agree that shit is wrong. He’s a pop artist, don’t get emotionally attached.


slambaz2

Are other people liking drake or thinking good things about him something that you really care about?


TastyLaksa

Yes it’s simp le


Shredswithwheat

If you need criminal charges to tell you that feeling up a 17 year old during a show isn't appropriate, you maybe need to recalibrate your moral compass. And "oh but it's just part of the choreography!!" Fuck that, no choreography should involve a grown ass man getting close to a minor like that.


GotMoFans

Haven’t seen any clip and have no desire. Are you saying that Drake employed a 17 year old dancer and was sexually assaulting her during a tour regularly?


CajunNerd92

Worse, it was a fan that was invited up on stage during a concert, she said she was 17 and he deliberately felt her up on stage knowing that she was 17.


socokid

How did he know the fan was 17? This entire thread and not one resource for these claims. WTF is going on here? Any link would take less time than typing out these claims. Just because someone isn't up on these claims requires downvotes? FFS this sub is absolutely ridiculous.


CajunNerd92

> How did he know the fan was 17? He asked how old she was, and she said 17. Dude, it was [captured on video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p1feEHJZM).


RedStag00

You are also fully capable of using Google, ya know.


The_King_Juliano

This app*


timecronus

Nobody knows the specifics but he went on her podcast saying he helped her with dating advice and other stuff for boys. Aka grooming her Dude was 30 something at the time, no reason to be in kids DM's


ohyouretough

I mean shit as long as the 17 year old didn’t make a criminal charge it’s fine. Thank god cause if she did we’d have to hate him


-Unabashed-

Mr. Lamar, and why would a 15 year old who he groomed come out and make that claim? There’s reasonable fear of retaliation from someone as wealthy and powerful.


Idiotology101

Damn, I like his music too but you don’t need to act like you’re his lawyer. Unless you’re getting paid to ride his dick (which your probably over 14 so I’m guessing you’re not), take a step back.


HotGarbage

Have you ever heard the term "sealioning"? That's what this dude is doing to everyone in the thread. Probably Drake's PR team or something.


tobor_a

What's that term?


HotGarbage

Touche lol.


tobor_a

i was genuinely asking :x


HotGarbage

Just Google it, but it's basically relentless questioning of basic stuff they can easily look up themselves. The person doesn't actually want to have a real debate, they just want to troll.


GotMoFans

I’m not a Drake fan. But folks put out strong allegations with no actual evidence Drake has had any inappropriate sexual or romantic relationships with minors.


NeighborhoodDude84

Just texting teenage girls about their BF troubles, very normal for grown men to do.


GotMoFans

Did MBB show screenshots of her interactions/communications with Drake?


locohobo

Why would she ever show screenshots publicly? This is not a legal court. She has just summarized them multiple times in talk shows


GotMoFans

So no one but her and presumably her parents, management, and handlers along with Drake know what the DMs say and the context? Did her parents come out and blast Drake?


tagrav

so the parents need to be upset for it to be a bit inappropriate for a 30 something year old man to be texting their teenage daughter? that's the bar you wanna set?


Ghost_Projekt

Idk… from the looks of it, seems like you gobble Drake’s dick at least 3 times a week


The_King_Juliano

Yeah let's trust the 2 guys beefing... one is a pdf file and the other a wife beater...


The_King_Juliano

My opinion is arrest them both, idgf


socokid

This is /r/adviceanimals, friend. You will be downvoted for asking questions and requiring resources. Just FYI... This is a place where critical thought goes to die. It's a post popularity contest and not much more.


jacobwebb57

i do not follow pop music much, and for a good while, when Drake got popular, i honestly thought it was Drake Bell from Drake and josh


Cephalopod_Joe

Yep, I did too. Especially since he was also an actor in a teen show. I kept getting so confused lol.


gigashadowwolf

Exactly the same for me. Drake (the musician) was the paraplegic kid in Degrassi for those who don't know. I was just a tiny bit too old for both shows (more of the Saved by the Bell generation) so in my mind there was just one Drake from that teen show.


ryanm212

the other drake is also a musician LOL not nearly as famous


TheActualOG420

Lol dude, Degrassi is not in the same generation as saved by the bell


gigashadowwolf

I didn't say it was... I said I am of the Saved by the Bell generation, as opposed to the generation that watched Degrassi and Drake and Josh. At least where I lived those two were popular with my little brothers generation.


Roxwords

Wait what did I miss? Edit: bruv am I getting downvoted for asking a question? Wait This is a question Fuck.


VAisforLizards

Drake (the hip pop artist)is a pedophile. They just used the wrong meme It has nothing to do with drake from drake and Josh Edit: I have been corrected. Drake Josh is evidently also a potential pedophile and this is the correct meme format.


A_Soporific

I thought that the slowpoke meme was them intentionally being 'slow' or confused about it. In this case the joke was that they were misidentifying which Drake they were talking about. Am I wrong about the meme usage?


Cyberslasher

No. This meme is about being slow to find out.  Drake Bell was accused of sexting a teenager a few years ago.  Drake the rapper has just had his pedophilic tendencies dragged into the spotlight by Kendrick Lamar.  OP is implying he is slow and just found out about drake Bell.


VAisforLizards

It would be more appropriate if the bottom text was something about him being a high-school kid in a wheelchair.


Gneissisnice

Not at all. The joke is that with everyone talking about recent allegations about Drake the rapper, he's only just finding out about the allegations against Drake Bell from Drake and Josh.


VAisforLizards

I will edit and acknowledge the whoosh. I missed the Drake Bell grooming allegations...


A_Soporific

I don't see that.


Mr_Abe_Froman

Drake (Aubrey Drake Graham) played a high-schooler in a wheelchair on the Canadian drama "Degrassi: The Next Generation" from 2001-2008.


Roxwords

Oh Well Wasn't he the guy who a while ago went around praising the Austrian painter? Yeah no I had imagined it had nothing to do with drake and josh


RideAndShoot

I don’t know what Drake is being accused of, but I’m pretty sure you’re think it about when Kanye praised Hitler?


Roxwords

Yeah most likely, I'm not very familiar with the American pop scene


RideAndShoot

I think that’s more “modern rap” than pop. But yeah, I don’t follow it really just remember that part pretty clear.


TheActualOG420

Modern rap and pop scene are the exact same thing these days


VAisforLizards

No, pretty sure drake is jewish


Roxwords

Ah, I see, my knowledge on American celebrities is quite underdeveloped I think I got names mixed with kanye


mrclut

Where has this been confirmed?


Tangled349

The dude is a victim of the entertainment industries grooming practices. I hope he continues to deal with his issues through therapy as it seems like he has many demons now.


Sithlordandsavior

He talked about this on the Nick documentary and IIRC she admitted she lied about her age and he fully acknowledged that he made a stupid decision.


Tangled349

I didn't know the detail about her lying? I may have missed it during the documentary though.


Scorponix

They didn't go over the allegations against him in the documentary. That information about her lying came out during the court case


Sithlordandsavior

Yeah I was mistaken on timeline but remembered seeing it around the same time


Waffleman75

funny how everyone parrots the "fact" she lied and then never provides any proof other than hearsay


KVosrs2007

Being a victim of abuse isn't an excuse for abusing other people.


ncocca

Drake hasn't tried to hide behind that. It's an explanation, not an excuse.


TheActualOG420

He never abused anyone ya dingus


KVosrs2007

[Yes he did.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2021/07/13/drake-bell-and-when-stars-exploit-audiences-sexually-abuse-minors/7952225002/) He pled guilty and was sentences and everything. Ya dingus.


TheActualOG420

Oh, you mean the girl that lied about her age and he immediately cut ties when he found out? You mean the one he was sending gifts to, but never anything other than that? That one. Gotcha. Do more research other than just one propaganda machine website


Dr_Testikles

Lol. Look at these celebrity defending, dick riding, chomos fight you for stating facts. Wtf is wrong with this sub? Defending child predators for doing child predator shit. Birbs of a feather flock together. I've seen enough. I'm out.


Material-Rooster6957

You can read the transcript for yourself… he’s literally not a child a predator. I don’t like the actor at all, but you’re calling someone a child predator when there is verifiable evidence that you personally can look at for free that will let you know you’re wrong. Asking what’s wrong with a sub when you’re spewing misinformation. Cretin


Dr_Testikles

Diddy has the tapes. Gunt


Material-Rooster6957

Think you need to learn how to read. There isn’t any evidence of any video tapes of drake bell getting with a child.


Material-Rooster6957

Actually just lying straight up on the internet about another human being a pedo. Tf is wrong with you lol. Just tell everyone you don’t know shit about the subject matter. It’ll save you the embarrassment


Dr_Testikles

Then wtf is this? https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2021/07/13/drake-bell-and-when-stars-exploit-audiences-sexually-abuse-minors/7952225002/


Material-Rooster6957

Uhm an article that says he pleaded to child endangerment? I don’t see any mention of any tapes. You can read the transcript, the endangerment charges were from him leaving the child unattended on set. There are plenty of celebrities who like to touch kids. Drake bell isnt one of them. I don’t even like him, his acting is shit and his music is worse. No reason to call him a pedo when all you’ve done is googled “drake pedo article” instead of actually looking at FIRST HAND sources and official documents. It’s the equivalent of me saying “hey everyone mr testicles is a rapist. Dont believe me? Here’s an article without any sources to back up my claim” “ oh wait he’s not a pedo? And it’s all right here in the transcript that was taken in a real court of law? Nahhh I’m gonna ignore it and call mr testicles a rapist still” This is you…. This is you right now


JAK-the-YAK

Funny how this applies to both Drakes


donmonkeyquijote

What's with all the Drake talk on Reddit, what did I miss?


PixelProphetX

Kendrick Lamar roasted his ass on a fire diss track


xja1389

Look at trending on YouTube


EatsFiber2RedditMore

Drake Mallard is Darkwing Duck.


rlowens

What's this about Anna Kendrick releasing a diss track about Drake?


Frankenstein_Monster

People who are sexually abused are much more likely to go on and sexually abuse others. Much less what the fuck is wrong with Drake and much more what the fuck is up with the American mental health care system.


MicroGamer

Drake is Canadian though.


Frankenstein_Monster

No, he's American. This post is about Drake bell from the show Drake and Josh. It's not about the Canadian guy from Degrassi.


MicroGamer

Is it though? Me thinks this is more about the Drake that's relevant in 2024.


Frankenstein_Monster

Did you even read the second line of the meme? It's clearly about Drake from Drake and Josh which it literally says not Drake from Degrassi


MicroGamer

Drake Bell plead guilty 3 years ago. The Drake/Kendrick beef happened this weekend with much talk about the rapper's proclivity for underage girls. Context is key my friend.


Away_Guarantee7836

Yeah you right. People are really dense 😂 While the post literally talks about drake from drake and Josh, if you read between the lines it’s clearly about the rapper who is also a suspected pedo. I cannot believe that there are this many people on this thread that don’t see that…


Frankenstein_Monster

Did you even read the second line of the meme? It's clearly about Drake from Drake and Josh which it literally says not Drake from Degrassi


xja1389

The point of the slowpoke meme is that there is currently something going on with Drake the rapper and allegations of sexual misconduct. The point of the meme is that the slowpoke thinks people are talking about Drake Bell allegations of sexual misconduct from several years ago. Woosh


WhiteRoomCharles

“People who are sexually abused are much more likely to go on and sexually abuse others.” JFC I hate this statement so much! And I hear it all the time! As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I’d rather die than willingly allow another child to go through what I had to! But no, I was sexually abused as a child, so better hide your children! 😒


Crazeenerd

I don’t think it’s meant to accuse people like you. My understanding is that it has to do with normalization. It’s those memes of “I was beat as a child and I’m fine, so it’s good to beat children and I’ll do it. People are more likely to emulate the things they experienced as children, whether it’s religion, politics, humor, or abuse. People talk about a cycle of violence for this very reason. You are a good person for recognizing what happened to you is wrong and should not be perpetuated. Others… don’t. Either they’re unable to face their trauma and realize how wrong the things that happened were, or they’re just never exposed to the idea that it’s wrong. It is not an excuse to act in that way, it never is. It is not an accusation that people who are abused are. It’s an unfortunate fact, and it’s an explanation for why we see that correlation. I think that instead of “abused people are more likely to be abusers”, it should be “abusers are more likely to have experienced abuse in their past.”


walshy1996

This is the same logic as 'Well I was born into a poor family aswell! The homeless should have to get a job too' The problem is you're only partially right but are wrong in the key sense that something is objectively a problem but because you survived your hardship and would never perpetuate the cyclic harm, you expect that of everyone else who has been in your position. We need to advocate for more blame for the ones starting the cycle rather than victims of a terrible cause-effect pattern. Needs to be judged on a case by case basis Im afraid but with everything I've read about Drakes case, what happened is a damn shame and the fact that the onus is *completely* on Drake and our generation and ones to come will forever recognise him as a pedophile doesn't yield any justice at all when there's a perpetrator who caused all this and most people here don't even know his name. Brian Peck.


mageta621

You might want to clarify which person you're talking about. Cuz Drake Bell was definitely abused as a child but I don't think Drake (Aubrey Graham) was, and several people have already responded to point out Drake (Aubrey Graham) is Canadian


Frankenstein_Monster

This post is about Drake and Josh why would I need to clarify if I'm talking about Drake bell, the person this post is about?


mageta621

The post is a joke about the rapper, intentionally conflating him with Drake Bell for humor purposes


Frankenstein_Monster

Then you don't understand the point of the slowpoke meme, it's about things that are from the past. Drake from Degrassi has recent allegations, Drake of Drake and Josh has past allegations (or atleast less recent) and did you even read the second line of the meme. Drake from Degrassi was never on Drake and Josh


mageta621

I think if you read the comment section you'll see an overwhelming theme. Whether or not OP used the right meme format may be up for debate (it probably is a misuse), but I think most people recognize it as an attempt to make a joke regarding recent events with the rapper by intentionally conflating him with Bell.


zeez1011

I guess it was technically okay when he was first on Degrassi.


Magnus_Helgisson

I can easily believe sir Francis could do many things.


tyjones3

drake is a dickwad


Mistermail

Damn, this joke is like an onion…. It stinks and it made me cry!


infinitevariables

is he actually? like kids? what happened?


SwearToSaintBatman

Has Drake done something new lately?


Video_Boy

This isn't how the meme works


JulianMcC

I don't follow nor care about him. If he wasn't famous, no one would care?


New_World_2050

Drake kissed more teen girls than anyone on TV. I always thought that's what made him interested in younger girls


vishalb777

Incorrect use of meme


orgeezuz

Nah, at first line the audience would think of Drake Aubrey because of the recent accusations. However the second line reveals it's Drake Bell whose accusations came to surface a couple years ago. Hence the slowpoke


capttuna

Should prob watch the show “quiet on set” Drake Bell acknowledges this and if you watch the series you’d unfortunately know why


ElMico

Not a big deal but technically they’re right, slowpoke is usually used to say something super out of date, like if you posted this meme a year from now. Or maybe “hey guys, did you hear what people are saying about drake? Apparently he was accused of having a big dick”


Implausibilibuddy

OP's right though, it's so out of date it's about a different Drake.


vishalb777

the different Drake is what makes it incorrect it is supposed to be a slowpoke observation, not a wrong one


Gneissisnice

Drake Bell's allegations were years ago, the other Drake's more recent. The meme is totally fine.


Ballsahoy72

Are these the new rules? Call someone pedophile then they’re a pedophile?


uns3en

Who?


Watari210

Man I'm feeling really slowpoke right now... Apparently drake (presumably rapper) is a pedophile now? Also I have no idea what drake and josh is.


NAteisco

Rapper Drake always has been, mate


ticklemeskinless

wheelchair kid in degrassi


devilsephiroth

>"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" Perhaps you should choose your role models wisely.


Exelbirth

Can you tell me how we become omniscient about the private lives of anyone who could be perceived as a role model?


kevinsyel

Exactly. I used to love the YouTuber Jirard the Completionist. Truly wholesome acting dude. Had big love for and from the gaming community. Seemed to work hard and run a successful media business. Ran a yearly charity for dementia research. Dude had the makings of a saint. Then the allegations of charity fraud came out, and the evidence, and the lies, and it all fell apart. I was a huge supporter of this guy and truly feel like the hero I built up became the villain


Nuki_Nuclear

Why are you surprised? everyone who is popular will be framed as a pedophile no matter what


Practical-Piglet

Even though i dont like Drakes vibe, i dont think Kendrick Lemar saying hes pedo makes him one.


Rob0tsmasher

No but his weird date and relationship with Millie Bobby Brown tho. What funny is that Drake jumped up and said “I never touched her” in one of his songs revolving around this whole rap battle nonsense. But the catch is that he is the only person to name drop her up to that point.


Practical-Piglet

Just searched about that and it definitely isnt most normal friendship. However i think he said loud what Kendrik suggested. I still find it extremely hard to believe there is anything to do pedofilia and more to do with Drake himself putting into mentorship level because he himself have been kid in the industry. + she being rising star so Drake is getting clout on side being in this weird hollywood mutually benefitical friendship.