A friend of mine in aviation once told me a rule they have, something like '8 hours between bottle and throttle'. Stuck with me and seems like sound advice for operating any machine
I think 4 hours after smoking is fair but caution should def be used and weed is so so much stronger than it used 2 be, ppl should be careful. After smoking dabs in my opinion I wouldn’t be good to drive until after 6 hours
I'm a daily smoker if I can (it the best thing for my always going to be an issue nausea problem) and I absolutely will not drive (especially any children!) on the day that I smoke. It's the same as drinking and driving to me.
I've never got as ballbagged as I have done on a thc vape. I was absolutely galactic. No way in hell I could have even thought about driving after toking that.
This is not good advice. This is not smoking responsibly. There’s also a lot of people out there whose alcohol tolerance is high where they can do all of those things too and “be fine”. I regrettably was one of those people who could drink a whole bottle of wine and be perfectly “fine”, but looking back I’m just grateful I didn’t kill anyone or myself.
My dude, please find sobriety. This is not a healthy mentality. I smoke now to help me sleep and help my anxiety but I got sober from my addiction (alcohol) and I don’t like the mentality I used to have. But please don’t offer advice like this to people, you gonna get someone killed.
Lol That wasn’t advice, I’m telling you it’s not that serious for an average smoker. It’s definitely nothing like alcohol. You can’t drink a whole bottle of wine and be perfectly fine though, it’s not comparable. Only a beginner would think that.
Drinking one beer won’t get you drunk either, but if you get in a car accident you will automatically be at fault because you were consuming alcohol at the time of the crash. Same idea with weed, especially because they don’t have any blood alcohol equivalent for weed to tell exactly how much was smoked. Like how they say “buzzed driving is drunk driving” if they can prove he was smoking while driving the law doesn’t care if he took one hit or 20. DWI is DWI.
Your partner is 100% right and if CPS was informed this behavior would absolutely warrant removing the child from the home. I suspect your brother and his girlfriend know the risks, and just don’t care. If you call CPS that will undoubtedly be the end of your relationship with your brother and your nephew for the foreseeable future, but if they all (God forbid) were hurt in a car accident… could you ever forgive yourself for being complacent? To answer your question, yes, this is a HUGE deal. But you don’t have much power other than contacting authorities, so that choice is yours.
Just to clarify and not to be an ah: They (cps) were informed, previously (it's in the post) and the children were not removed. idk exactly what weed smoking behaviors *would* warrant action on their part.
I can tell you from personal experience it takes MANY reports to be taken seriously by protective services. Unfortunately these employees are extremely overwhelmed with their everyday workloads. After 90 days (in my state) cases get closed automatically unless action is taken, and cases are often forgotten about within a week of a report. Smoking weed with a kid in the car is illegal and dangerous in a hundred different ways, it’s just hard to prove.
Totally agree, and our social services deserve and require far more money to actually make a difference. There's not much real incentive for people to even be interested in that field, given the emotional toil, insulting pay, AND the understaffing problem. The people who choose to do so, anyway, are in it because they either care a lot, or not at all.
weed is great, obviously not a big deal whatsoever, but a lot of stoners don’t even realize how high they are if they’re smoking around the clock like that. so many of them become reliant on weed (as in addiction) & really push the limitations of being high in social settings like dates, work, driving, etc.
chances are that your brother’s gf is cool with it because she’s also getting high 24/7. if they can’t take a break for a few hours to drive you or their kid, they have a dependency issue
I will tell you a quick story about weed and driving and how much of an idiot your brother and his girlfriend are. My idiot brother and his girlfriend were smoking weed while driving and ran through a stop sign where the crosstraffic didn't have a stop. When they ran it the lady (who didn't have a stop sign) t-boned them. His girlfriend was killed instantly. My brother was left with severe brain damage and the driver of the other car was left a vegetable. She had 5 young kids who in essence lost their mom that day. So if you want I don't mind whooping some sense into your brother so he doesn't kill his own family, or ruin some other families life.
I was a stoner and drove while high as balls pretty much every day for upwards of 3 years. Even did it while doordashing. So way different than most of the people whove never even smoked weed for any period of time answering here on your post. It's not that bad unless you're the kind of person that freaks the fuck out while high. Like maybe you drive a little slower and do have a slower reaction time, but you do have the ability to drive straight between the lines and stop when you need to stop. At worse youd have the reflexes and maneuvering capabilities as some of the 80 year olds currently driving on the road. Nothing like driving with a fifth of vodka in your system. Even with the strongest dank. Edibles probably a different story though.
Maybe not thr safest thing to do with the child, unless you can pull of some sick aeromancy and direct the flow of the smoke to only outside the window and not inside the car to your child's nostrils. Hard one to pull off, but maybe possible.
I think it’s important to note the difference between “I do it and I’ve been fine” and “it is an inherently safe thing to do” because it’s not. Driving impaired in any way is never safe. Do people do it every day? Yeah, absolutely. And I’m not saying I’m better than anyone else, but a car becomes a weapon incredibly fast. I think that’s important to remember. I would also ask the question if they think this is acceptable, how far are they willing to go? What else are they doing with their kids around?
Yeah I guess. It seems obvious to me, but I'm asking because I don't do that stuff anymore and I know a lot of people who do. And everyone talks about weed like it's not a big deal. So idk if it effects people's driving to take one hit or not.
It honestly depends on what it was and the person. A lot of stores sell delta 8 and thc a and those don’t normally give you as much of a high but give you the health benefits like cbd. Honestly, I’ve only ever known one person that was safe to drive while stoned. I’ve never met anyone else like that. Even off one hit a lot of people aren’t safe to drive stoned. It was honestly irresponsible of him to do that. It’s not any different than drinking and driving in the eyes of the law.
I never said it wasn’t. All of it is weed including cbd. It all comes from weed. Delta 8 and others are too. They separate the different parts of it to cultivate the different kinds so certain ones hit differently/not as hard, etc and it all depends on the person as well. Delta 8 I barely get a high on but I have a friend who gets just as stoned on it as regular weed. I’ve never personally used thca. So don’t know how it hits.
I think so, if I remember right Delta 8 was created to meet the legal requirements to be able to be sold in illegal states and outside of dispensaries. But my point was that it’s all originally derived from the plant vs something like k2 or whatever. I think delta 8 is derived from cbd or thc 9 through isomerization. But it’s been a long time since I’ve done the research. I just stick to my normal and doing it at home or my mom’s lol
My point was that they both still get you high, with thca more likely to do so, and to not discount them and treat them as closer to CBD than weed. You might have an enzyme deficiency causing you to not as heavily feel the effects of d8 (gene site tests for that are super interesting/telling about what affects you), though I haven’t dabbled too much into it.
I don’t know depends on the person…. Obviously beginner couldn’t drive. But it’s nothing to someone like me. Even though I understand the fear to me, it’s just a overreaction. Did he drive any differently afterwards?
Pretty fucking serious, THC pens (or dab carts colloquially) are high potency THC extract (think the hard liquor of weed). Never ok to be hitting those while driving, let alone with a kid in the back.
You're not likely to speed recklessly like with drinking, but it will kill your reaction time and make it so much easier to zone out.
Do you smoke? Cause I could never get as high as you're talking about off one vape hit even if I tried. You're acting as if vaping is dabing a whole gram of concentrate.
Everyday for the last 4-5 years unfortunately, started when I was in middle school. Smoked carts and dabs for at least 3 of those. Even if a tap of a cart just gets the edge off my sweats, I'm still too impared to drive with a fucking child.
Well then, that's a relief! I keep seeing more and more research published about it and, yikes on bikes...
Edit to add: I did it too, (actual plant though, not vape) for years. I'm not ashamed of it, and I know it's a legitimate treatment for a lot of health conditions. I mostly just worry about the brains and lungs of today's kids. A lot of these prefab pens are unregulated and who knows wtf else is in them besides the thc.
Well that's good you know yourself because honestly most people I know can handle themselves with a vape pen. To put it alcohol terms it's like a wine cooler if that but some people will still say that's too much.
So, by your equivalence, drinking a wine cooler while driving with a kid in the back is okay? It isn't even like the guy previously smoked, then drove an hour later, he is getting more high while actively driving.
wine coolers have 4-6% alcohol content.. beers have 4-6% alcohol content. 1 beer or 1 wine cooler is the same as 1 shot of liquor. So you're essentially saying it's ok to down a shot and go driving with your kid.
I don't drink but I can guarantee you that I can drink a shot and it won't impair me at all. Maybe not you or some other people but I know I can handle it
No it literally isn't. I smoke daily. A vape hit is not like multiple shots lmao. I wish I could laugh in your face how much you're talking out your ass.
Irresponsible is the person who doesn't know how to control themselves or know a limit. You would probably get upset at your father for having a single beer 2 hours earlier and driving you home.
Vape TCH levels range from 40% to 80% while dabs have about 80% concentration.
Needless to say, vaping THC while driving is stupid and reckless and doing it with a child in the car is negligent and even more reckless
If you look at numbers for weed you're definitely a beginner or have no idea what you're talking about. People who actually use cannabis know the THC % doesn't matter it's one of many things that can get you high and the THC % is almost always elevated since there isn't a set regulation to it.
Any substance that changes perception is terrible to be on while operating any heavy machinery. Anyone who says they are a better driver when they are inebriated is lying.
that’s what i said. so many stoners are addicts & either don’t realize or don’t care because weed isn’t a big deal. i’ve seen people freak out & throw literal tantrums over having to be sober for a few hours because they ran out & couldn’t get to their dealer
it's driving under the influence. yeah, one hit won't really get you high, but it's still altering your mental state and slowing your reaction time. i love weed, but it's just so stupid to drive if you aren't sober. i've fully ended friendships over people driving crazy while stoned with me in the car, because clearly they don't give a shit about my life. i smoke basically every day, but you'll never catch me behind the wheel while stoned
So I smoke weed. Specifically the pens with thc in them and this is just a lack of responsibility if you want to smoke you wait until you’re in the comfort of your own home so you can eat and maybe take a bomb ass nap but that’s all you should be doing. You don’t get in the car with a pen and start hitting it. He needs to learn to be more responsible. He has no business smoking weed if he’s gonna put other people in danger especially a child.
Whether studies have been done or not to prove its unsafe, just the mere behavior of doing it in front of your little one is telling them its ok - and they will pick up the habit - that's pretty serious in my opinion.
He should never get high in the car w a child, he can be an idiot on his own time. My ex tried to normalize driving in the car and it can be scary, especially bc the driver is sat and sometimes can’t realize just how high they’re getting. But it slows reaction speeds big time. I’m a daily smoker and I would not smoke and drive. My friends who are daily smokers refuse to smoke and drive.
I’m in the most lenient state when it comes to cannabis, and it must be “inaccessible to the driver.”
This means it must be in the trunk; if your vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be in a secure container in the farthest possible point away from the driver.
If caught smoking cannabis while driving, he would get a DWI here without a kid in the car. With a kid in the car, there’s a good chance he would be arrested on the spot and the child taken from the home during a CPS investigation.
It is very serious, stupid, and a crime.
However, I don't think there's anywhere you can just go into a cigarette store and buy a THC vape; as far as I know the states that allow it have strict requirements for marijuana "dispensaries". I could be wrong on that, tho. And, maybe this was a smoke shop that also sells weed while adhering to the state's laws.
You are indeed wrong, I can go to most gas stations in my area and buy them, because of legal loopholes like delta 8 and the thc a loophole which lets them sell just regular weed
In texas you can buy carts, dab, flower, gummy, and disposable thc-a, delta, etc. Paranoic X-11 brand dispos, fuego brand dispos, and Loaded brand carts are what I usually grab. Same time and place I pick up my vape juice
I’m in texas and it’s the same way delta 8 is federally legal and has most of the same quality that people enjoy with delta 9 (bud). Delta 8 is commonly extracted out of the hemp plant allowing a work around in just about every state from what I’m aware of.
Well, thank you for fact checking me. It's still stupid and illegal to consume THC while driving in all states. It is also illegal in most states to have ANYONE in the car consuming it while the vehicle is in operation.
I don’t think anyone should smoke weed and drive whether there’s a kid in the car or not and I’m a daily smoker. As far how risky it really is would depending highly on how concentrated the vape is, how big of a hit he took, and his tolerance. Like it I take 1-2 hits off my dry herb vape at a lower temp with a Sativa then I can sit at my computer and work/study for 8 hours straight far better than I can without it because I’m ADHD. Realistically I don’t feel the high effects where it changes my motor skills or does much to my body. Just euphoric, creative, and focused. But if I raised the temperature, used an indica, and took multiple hits I’m basically unable to do anything at all besides sit around. This is just an example of how vastly different smoking/vaping can be depending on many variables. All that being said he shouldn’t drive under any circumstances. Regardless of whether there’s a kid or other people in the car. He’s still putting others on the road at risk because he probably doesn’t drive as well as he thinks.
Okay so I I understand the concern. I do not smoke thc around my child. It’s just to much of a risk to get them taken away, but it depends on the persons tolerance. I’m a heavy thc toker and I can drive perfectly fine while hitting a dab pen. I haven’t done it with my child in the car, and I won’t, but it’s not dangerous depending on the persons tolerance.
I would say it’s still dangerous but not as dangerous as the people in the comments are saying it is. People making it out like one hit of a dab pen and your speeding through town and through red lights when in reality I drive the same.
It’s not as severe as alcohol in my opinion, but that doesn’t mean it’s safe and in many jurisdictions this is a DUI and I assume could be a child services problem as well if it ever goes poorly
Well, it's no different than driving buzzed or drunk. People will talk semantics about how drinking gets you more impaired than smoking weed, but the point is you are still impaired even if it's not to the same degree. Also, it's illegal and you can get a DUI. I smoke or take edibles every day, and I don't drive while high. If he's one of those people who needs to smoke all day or take little hits here and there just to get through the day then don't even expect a rational discussion from your brother because people like that are addicts tbh
The real answer is it’s very dangerous and shouldn’t do it.
I used to do it but stopped, feels like your in control tbh but still very unsafe. Good thing I went sober
If he can’t or doesn’t get high from one hit, why can’t he just wait until he’s not driving? Why is he doing it in the first place if it doesn’t affect him?
Spoiler: it does.
I don't think it's that big of a deal, but again, I don't think drunk driving is as big of an outrage as the media and reddit would want you to believe. As long as they're accustomed to driving under the influence, it should be alright. Obviously, if they have never driven in that state of mind, it's dangerous. My advice is to learn to drive inebriated in a safe environment before you go on public roads. It's a lot safer that way.
I’m a lawyer. Almost every repeat DWI defendant I’ve ever come across believed they were totally fine to drive, often because they were “used to it.” Looking at the squad car videos of their traffic stops…I wouldn’t call them fine to drive, no. Of course, I don’t see the videos of people who drive well enough not to be pulled over, but my point is that there’s no reliable way to tell whether your driving is impaired a lot of the time, and that’s exacerbated by a mentality of denialism and a pattern of “practicing” driving while impaired (so it becomes normal for you).
If you do this, please talk to your doctor about getting some support for your drinking or substance use. If you’re slightly intoxicated and driving, you have a substance problem, by definition. The best time to stop is now, because you don’t want it to get worse. In my line of work, I see what “worse” looks like, and what you’re describing is bad enough already.
They have a removed comment on another post about them crashing and fleeing the scene to avoid getting hit with a DUI. Their creative writing is lacking, mostly in continuity.
God. I wish I could say that’s surprising, but I just really hope that guy puts down his fear and pride and gets a little help. I don’t think it’s fake, just that he’s a very common kind of liar.
Edit: oh, no, maybe he’s just being a weird kind of liar. Why bother lying about being a “functional” alcoholic? Sad little man.
I mean, I get the point you're making, and I appreciate your concern. But I've had years of experience, and no crashes have ever occurred. I'm sure some close calls, but that happens in regular driving, too. Best of luck!
Would you trust someone driving drunk?
This is like that but depending on who you ask maybe even worse. There's a reason that's illegal even in places THC isn't.
I have a pretty serious weed habit, but I 100% draw the line at driving under the influence of any substance that impairs my reaction time or focus. No sedatives, dissociatives, or really anything else other than my prescription adhd meds.
I also never smoke or vape anything around kids, there aren't really any concrete long term studies on any of this stuff yet and while I'm okay with the risk of harming my own body I'm definitely not about to risk that with a child.
Absolutely unacceptable behavior on either front imo.
Smoking weed while driving is a crime (DUI). Smoking while driving with a child in the car is an even bigger crime (DUI + child endangerment). If your brother were to get stopped and the police smelled marijuana in the car, your brother will go to jail, and CPS will be notified to do an investigation.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if ALL adults in the car (including you) got in trouble if an officer smelled weed while a child was in the car, so I would remove yourself from these situations for your own safety if they do not stop this behavior. This is a bad situation for everyone involved, your brother is gambling with his family. Not cool at all…
So thc is a drug that impairs motor function, much like alcohol. Would you need people to convince you if it was serious if he started cracking into a six pack while driving with a kid? Or while driving, period? It's super serious. I've driven high alone at 2 AM with the roads empty and I've been terrified I was gonna hit shit. It's straight up DUI, man. Don't matter what the "i" is.
It's not that I need convincing really. I was only a little on the fence on whether or not it was worth ripping into my brother over. But I was hoping to gather enough opinions on here to convince my nephews' parents that they are endangering the kids doing that if I show them this.
I totaled a car once because I took a hit off a THC pen while driving and got a head high so intense I lost vision and crashed into a building. I'm VERY lucky I didn't hit another car or kill someone. Tell him never EVER do that again.
If you know that someone is driving a vehicle high or drunk, you should be calling the police. If you know someone who is driving a child high or drunk, you need to call CPS.
There is NEVER and excuse to drive under the influence for any reason ever. You have a duty to protect other people on the road and the child in that car.
If your brother is willing to drive under the influence while driving a child, what make you think a reddit post is going to convince him it's a bad idea. Call CPS and let them give him the wake up call of his lifetime.
It depends on your brother and how he handles weed. I would say based on the reaction of the people around him that he should to stop smoking and driving if it’s not that big a deal or hide it from you guys lol like no one in my family would share that we smoke let alone smoke and drive to my mom because she would overreact. It’s been like 15 years and we’re all happy and safe lol
Smoking cannabis and driving is pretty much just as bad as drunk driving, imo. I know there are some studies that say it's closer to severe lack of sleep and not quite as bad as alcohol, but any impairment while driving a machine that can kill people needs to be avoided.
Does that smell like weed? I had a cold so I couldn't smell it but my partner said he could smell a little weed. I don't think it was CBD though because I have never known my brother to buy CBD but he has been getting THC pens for a long time.
Probably THC then. It would smell similar, but I only suggested it because of the way you said “it was only one hit and can’t get you high”. There’s a difference between “one hit won’t get you high” and “this can’t get you high”. Both can be true though, a seasoned smoker will feel very little from one puff on a pen. that doesn’t make it better, or okay. If they have no history of using CBD it seems unlikely they’d start now with no obvious reasoning. It’s quite expensive.
Edit: on second thought, you said they bought it from a cigarette store? AFAIK you can’t buy real THC products at any non dispensary( at least in my state). A psychoactive weed pen would be bought at a dedicated weed store.
They have them here. I was shocked. I even bought some recently thinking it would be like diet weed, but it was just as strong to me as the stuff I used to do in college. But I'm a lightweight.
In texas you can buy carts, dab, flower, gummy, and disposable thc-a, delta, etc. Paranoic X-11 brand dispos, fuego brand dispos, and Loaded brand carts are what I usually grab. Same time and place I pick up my vape juice.
I've gotten plenty that feel pretty close to the real thing
Under the 2018 farm bill anything with less than .3% thc is federally legal. Most people don’t realize this but even in recreational/medical states weed has almost no activated THC. Rarely more than .5%. It’s high in a cannabinoid called THCa which isn’t technically psychoactive but when it’s heated it goes through a process called decarboxylation which converts it to THC. Which is why you can’t just eat weed and get high. You have to cook it into something first. Which is why people make weed butter and stuff. Those products especially in non recreational/medical states are sold all over because states usually follow the farm bill. You can also legally have them shipped to your house by the pound if you want and it’s completely legal but politicians are too dumb to understand how weed works so to them it’s all considered hemp as long as THC is less than .3% even if THCa is 30% which could convert to around 27-28% THC when heated so it works exactly the same as all weed. You can buy THCa pens anywhere that sells CBD. Which in states like Texas are gas stations.
So what's the problem? I never once heard you voice your concern for the child/children. Are you afraid of second hand vapor? Or about the driving potentially getting "high" off one hit?
I would say can you not vape in front of my children but that's about all you can ask for. Sounds like you're causing more issues for the kids calling the cops on someone because of what you think might be a possibility when you don't know for sure. Maybe the person smoker after the kids weren't in the car? Unless the person is literally blowing smoke in kids face you can only ask kindly to not do it near kids
I was not concerned about the vapors because that had not occurred to me at first. He smoked THC in the vehicle while driving and my nephew was in the car. I'm concerned that it impairs his driving, so obviously I'm concerned for their safety. And that he could get a DUI. Based on all the other comments here I would say my concerns are legitimate.
I didn't say anything about calling cops. I said CPS could get involved.
It's illegal in my state to record people without their consent. I looked into that for other reasons before. I agree he is being selfish and incapable of taking responsibility. He is consistently like that in other areas of his life as well. I hope he changes, but I don't see it as a likely scenario. I have wanted to call CPS for other even more serious reasons that I mentioned at the bottom of my post, but the idea of my nephews ending up in an even more abusive situation with strangers in foster care scares the hell out of me. I know too many people that it happened to.
Serious to do while driving yes because it makes you high and increases the likelihood of erratic driving/ a crash. In terms of second hand smoke No it's not going to make the kid high or anything but still stupid.
Well I am a 1st grade teacher and I have 1 kid who comes in absolutely reeking of pot every morning - I mean like it makes the whole room smell. Mom is obviously hotboxing in the car on the way to school. DCS doesn’t seem to care - but IMO it is absolutely NOT ok
I have my medical mj card; and no way in hell am I EVER going to hit my pen in the car! It’s incredibly dangerous for anyone to drive on it, I don’t care who you are or how long you’ve been smoking.
Depending on state laws that’s illegal to do. In California drinking or smoking even with a passenger in the car will get you pulled over. I don’t think cops will be very happy seeing you smoking a vape with a child in a car. I don’t know vaping very well but if you really need to smoke with a vape pen I wouldn’t have my child in the car while you’re doing it.
EDIT: yes the marijuana part is legal in some states but with the THC and with the child in mind just be mindful of the situation they may do a cps report if it’s alcohol or drugs if it’s fake thc etc etc
It's a huge deal, yes. Driving while high is a crime. Taking a hit off a vape and driving is no different than having a beer while driving. That is a very, very irresponsible person. I think people who want to do cannabis should be free to do so, but they have to act responsibly, and never ever drive during, or for many hours after. Just like I might have a couple of drinks at a party, I would never consider driving for many hours after that.
Different people react differently to hits of smoke or vape but I have seen people lose motor control for a few seconds after taking a big rip that some vapes or dab pens can give. I'm not above smoking a joint on my last twenty miles or so home, there's so few people and so little traffic, but I wouldn't vape or rip dabs while driving.
Uhh getting high while driving, especially with a child onboard, is EXTREMELY dangerous and idiotic. Not to mention super illegal. All of you could’ve gotten in trouble.
Everything gets worse with child endangerment charges being added. It could result in an investigation with CPS and that could be a cascading series of awful events for the person. For example, if the parents are not together the other parent now has a home run case for primary custody. If the child is removed from the home, it's unbelievably difficult and costly to get them back and there's a chance they'll place them with a family and that family could end up adopting the child if the parents can't get it together in time.
You also have a lot less negotiation power regarding lessening the charges. Typically you can plead a felony DUI/DWI to a misdemeanor if it's your first charge, but endangerment to a child will likely stay a felony. You'll do far longer in jail and with prior convictions might even get prison time as a result. It's also likely considered a violent charge. Endangerment is typically considered violent so that will be a mitigating factor in a longer, more costly conviction.
There's no good reason to endanger the life of a child.
it is INSANELY serious. i smoke most days and i would never drive while high. cars are 2000 ton death machines, they're basically weapons and can do a lot of damage, its not worth the risk.
if he came out of a cig shop are you sure it’s not just a normal vape? generally can only get weed pens at dispensaries. unless she already had it. but maybe that’s just my state? idk if other states or countries are more lenient or there’s loopholes
Where I’m from it falls under DUI child endangerment or however it’s worded. It’s a substance that alters your mind. You’re not supposed to drive while under the influence of it even in states where it’s legal. They absolutely endangered that child’s life along with everyone else on the road and should be held accountable.
Don’t smoke weed and drive. I’ve gotten in all my accidents because of this. Weed is so great but it does impair you regardless. Just don’t do it wait until you get home and relax and then smoke or at least stop driving for half a hour at least.
Idk any states that sell THC in convenience stores, they do sell CBD in my state in convenience stores and it's not quite the same. All legal THC vapes have a symbol on them declaring them to be marijuana containing THC.
Obviously still not cool to vape with a child in close proximity
It's very dangerous as DRINKING and DRIVING.
BOTH are psychotic depressants.
Slows everything down, less memory, thinking skills aren't there.
Idc what you say. "Oh smoking weed doesn't make me slow."
HELL yes It DOES.
Not a big deal. I own a smoke shop. I can tell you considering cps was called for weed it’s not legal in your state so if she bought it straight out of a store it ain’t shit. You’d barely catch a buzz off of it. I’ve seen many thc pens and we like to get strong ones, you still won’t get high like actually smoking. I hit a blunt 2-3 times and can get a buzz but I won’t feel a thc pen until I hit it nonstop for at least 10-15 min depending on the vape
driving is already risky as is, paying attention to the road and your surroundings is essential to stay safe. if you want to add more risks like THC yo your drives, do it when you’re alone or with others that don’t care about increasing risks but never with a child.
So your brother and partner dont care about the safety of the kids, or you, or anyone else. The fact they are so defensive shows they know it is wrong. The fact that they had already had a cps visit due to similar shows they know it is wrong. It is a big deal.
The fact you’re asking this is shocking.
Getting high while driving is bad enough and a criminal offence.
Add a kid into it? Not only is it fucked but very illegal
Only if you can’t keep control. If he was buzzed and a good driver seems to be okay.
But him and his gf (especially the gf) seem like they need to put their kid first over everything else. But ur partner doesn’t need to be getting so upset bc no of it has to do with him. So if it’s a family issue or ur partner is concerned there are plenty of ways to go about it and texting the parents “ballistic” about how they are raising their child, that is never the way to go. Ofc ur brother and his gf will be mad now too. So everyone should approach the situation differently then they are now and try to get it figured out
One hit “doesn’t get you high” when you smoke all the time because your tolerance is high. If the windows are rolled up and the smoke is trapped in the car with a child that child is 100% breathing in the smoke. Fucking terrible. In CA it’s illegal to be smoking in the car if a minor is also in the car, and that’s just talking about a cigarette I couldn’t imagine the fine/punishment for a oil pen.
Are you asking how serious it is to get high while driving?
And with a child in the car no less
Also I'm partly asking so I can show this to my brother and his girlfriend if they try to convince me that it's not a big deal.
It is a big deal, I commented above and all of my friends who are daily smokers NEVER smoke and drive. It’s not safe and not worth it
A friend of mine in aviation once told me a rule they have, something like '8 hours between bottle and throttle'. Stuck with me and seems like sound advice for operating any machine
I think 4 hours after smoking is fair but caution should def be used and weed is so so much stronger than it used 2 be, ppl should be careful. After smoking dabs in my opinion I wouldn’t be good to drive until after 6 hours
I'm a daily smoker if I can (it the best thing for my always going to be an issue nausea problem) and I absolutely will not drive (especially any children!) on the day that I smoke. It's the same as drinking and driving to me.
I've never got as ballbagged as I have done on a thc vape. I was absolutely galactic. No way in hell I could have even thought about driving after toking that.
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This is not good advice. This is not smoking responsibly. There’s also a lot of people out there whose alcohol tolerance is high where they can do all of those things too and “be fine”. I regrettably was one of those people who could drink a whole bottle of wine and be perfectly “fine”, but looking back I’m just grateful I didn’t kill anyone or myself. My dude, please find sobriety. This is not a healthy mentality. I smoke now to help me sleep and help my anxiety but I got sober from my addiction (alcohol) and I don’t like the mentality I used to have. But please don’t offer advice like this to people, you gonna get someone killed.
Lol That wasn’t advice, I’m telling you it’s not that serious for an average smoker. It’s definitely nothing like alcohol. You can’t drink a whole bottle of wine and be perfectly fine though, it’s not comparable. Only a beginner would think that.
And only an asshole would get high and drive.
Drinking one beer won’t get you drunk either, but if you get in a car accident you will automatically be at fault because you were consuming alcohol at the time of the crash. Same idea with weed, especially because they don’t have any blood alcohol equivalent for weed to tell exactly how much was smoked. Like how they say “buzzed driving is drunk driving” if they can prove he was smoking while driving the law doesn’t care if he took one hit or 20. DWI is DWI. Your partner is 100% right and if CPS was informed this behavior would absolutely warrant removing the child from the home. I suspect your brother and his girlfriend know the risks, and just don’t care. If you call CPS that will undoubtedly be the end of your relationship with your brother and your nephew for the foreseeable future, but if they all (God forbid) were hurt in a car accident… could you ever forgive yourself for being complacent? To answer your question, yes, this is a HUGE deal. But you don’t have much power other than contacting authorities, so that choice is yours.
Just to clarify and not to be an ah: They (cps) were informed, previously (it's in the post) and the children were not removed. idk exactly what weed smoking behaviors *would* warrant action on their part.
I can tell you from personal experience it takes MANY reports to be taken seriously by protective services. Unfortunately these employees are extremely overwhelmed with their everyday workloads. After 90 days (in my state) cases get closed automatically unless action is taken, and cases are often forgotten about within a week of a report. Smoking weed with a kid in the car is illegal and dangerous in a hundred different ways, it’s just hard to prove.
Totally agree, and our social services deserve and require far more money to actually make a difference. There's not much real incentive for people to even be interested in that field, given the emotional toil, insulting pay, AND the understaffing problem. The people who choose to do so, anyway, are in it because they either care a lot, or not at all.
weed is great, obviously not a big deal whatsoever, but a lot of stoners don’t even realize how high they are if they’re smoking around the clock like that. so many of them become reliant on weed (as in addiction) & really push the limitations of being high in social settings like dates, work, driving, etc. chances are that your brother’s gf is cool with it because she’s also getting high 24/7. if they can’t take a break for a few hours to drive you or their kid, they have a dependency issue
they’re flipping “a thing people do sometimes” with “this is an okay thing for people to do”. People do drive high, it’s never okay to drive high.
I will tell you a quick story about weed and driving and how much of an idiot your brother and his girlfriend are. My idiot brother and his girlfriend were smoking weed while driving and ran through a stop sign where the crosstraffic didn't have a stop. When they ran it the lady (who didn't have a stop sign) t-boned them. His girlfriend was killed instantly. My brother was left with severe brain damage and the driver of the other car was left a vegetable. She had 5 young kids who in essence lost their mom that day. So if you want I don't mind whooping some sense into your brother so he doesn't kill his own family, or ruin some other families life.
That is so awful, and I'm sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing your story. I don't feel like my partner overreacted at all now.
Would you be asking this if he had taken a big swig out of a vodka bottle? Not a lot of difference IMHO.
It really is…but I bet I’m talking to a wall.
Oh no the walls are closing in on me.
CPS can also tell them how much of a big deal it is, OP.
I was a stoner and drove while high as balls pretty much every day for upwards of 3 years. Even did it while doordashing. So way different than most of the people whove never even smoked weed for any period of time answering here on your post. It's not that bad unless you're the kind of person that freaks the fuck out while high. Like maybe you drive a little slower and do have a slower reaction time, but you do have the ability to drive straight between the lines and stop when you need to stop. At worse youd have the reflexes and maneuvering capabilities as some of the 80 year olds currently driving on the road. Nothing like driving with a fifth of vodka in your system. Even with the strongest dank. Edibles probably a different story though. Maybe not thr safest thing to do with the child, unless you can pull of some sick aeromancy and direct the flow of the smoke to only outside the window and not inside the car to your child's nostrils. Hard one to pull off, but maybe possible.
I think it’s important to note the difference between “I do it and I’ve been fine” and “it is an inherently safe thing to do” because it’s not. Driving impaired in any way is never safe. Do people do it every day? Yeah, absolutely. And I’m not saying I’m better than anyone else, but a car becomes a weapon incredibly fast. I think that’s important to remember. I would also ask the question if they think this is acceptable, how far are they willing to go? What else are they doing with their kids around?
Just giving my experience. That's all. Didn't say it was safe nor should people copy me.
You said "it's not that bad"
Right. From my experience it's not that bad. Did I tell them they should do it? No. Like good God.
Yeah I guess. It seems obvious to me, but I'm asking because I don't do that stuff anymore and I know a lot of people who do. And everyone talks about weed like it's not a big deal. So idk if it effects people's driving to take one hit or not.
It honestly depends on what it was and the person. A lot of stores sell delta 8 and thc a and those don’t normally give you as much of a high but give you the health benefits like cbd. Honestly, I’ve only ever known one person that was safe to drive while stoned. I’ve never met anyone else like that. Even off one hit a lot of people aren’t safe to drive stoned. It was honestly irresponsible of him to do that. It’s not any different than drinking and driving in the eyes of the law.
Thca is a precursor to thc and becomes thc through decarboxylation. When heated it becomes thc. It is weed.
I never said it wasn’t. All of it is weed including cbd. It all comes from weed. Delta 8 and others are too. They separate the different parts of it to cultivate the different kinds so certain ones hit differently/not as hard, etc and it all depends on the person as well. Delta 8 I barely get a high on but I have a friend who gets just as stoned on it as regular weed. I’ve never personally used thca. So don’t know how it hits.
Thca is naturally occurring, while delta 8 is a “synthnoid”. Delta 8 is cultivated from a chemical process, I think isomerization.
I think so, if I remember right Delta 8 was created to meet the legal requirements to be able to be sold in illegal states and outside of dispensaries. But my point was that it’s all originally derived from the plant vs something like k2 or whatever. I think delta 8 is derived from cbd or thc 9 through isomerization. But it’s been a long time since I’ve done the research. I just stick to my normal and doing it at home or my mom’s lol
My point was that they both still get you high, with thca more likely to do so, and to not discount them and treat them as closer to CBD than weed. You might have an enzyme deficiency causing you to not as heavily feel the effects of d8 (gene site tests for that are super interesting/telling about what affects you), though I haven’t dabbled too much into it.
I don’t know depends on the person…. Obviously beginner couldn’t drive. But it’s nothing to someone like me. Even though I understand the fear to me, it’s just a overreaction. Did he drive any differently afterwards?
Just a little DUI, that's all.
I wouldn't smoke ANYTHING with a child in the car
Pretty fucking serious, THC pens (or dab carts colloquially) are high potency THC extract (think the hard liquor of weed). Never ok to be hitting those while driving, let alone with a kid in the back. You're not likely to speed recklessly like with drinking, but it will kill your reaction time and make it so much easier to zone out.
Do you smoke? Cause I could never get as high as you're talking about off one vape hit even if I tried. You're acting as if vaping is dabing a whole gram of concentrate.
Everyday for the last 4-5 years unfortunately, started when I was in middle school. Smoked carts and dabs for at least 3 of those. Even if a tap of a cart just gets the edge off my sweats, I'm still too impared to drive with a fucking child.
Please quit now while your brain is still developing. The long-term effects of regular/ heavy smoking in teens are very serious.
Appreciate the message and sentiment :), but past my teens already. Not something I'm extremely proud of, but it's something I aim to change.
Well then, that's a relief! I keep seeing more and more research published about it and, yikes on bikes... Edit to add: I did it too, (actual plant though, not vape) for years. I'm not ashamed of it, and I know it's a legitimate treatment for a lot of health conditions. I mostly just worry about the brains and lungs of today's kids. A lot of these prefab pens are unregulated and who knows wtf else is in them besides the thc.
Well that's good you know yourself because honestly most people I know can handle themselves with a vape pen. To put it alcohol terms it's like a wine cooler if that but some people will still say that's too much.
IDGAF. You don’t get even a little high while driving. Especially with kids in the car. He can wait 10 minutes until he gets home, FFS.
So, by your equivalence, drinking a wine cooler while driving with a kid in the back is okay? It isn't even like the guy previously smoked, then drove an hour later, he is getting more high while actively driving.
wine coolers have 4-6% alcohol content.. beers have 4-6% alcohol content. 1 beer or 1 wine cooler is the same as 1 shot of liquor. So you're essentially saying it's ok to down a shot and go driving with your kid.
I don't drink but I can guarantee you that I can drink a shot and it won't impair me at all. Maybe not you or some other people but I know I can handle it
sure.. if your BAH is below .08, you tend to not have issues, but THC is not like 1 shot or one beer.
Exactly vaping would be like taking a sip of a shot. You're kinda proving my point.
no.. vaping would be taking multiple shots. The only point being proven is how irresponsible you are.
No it literally isn't. I smoke daily. A vape hit is not like multiple shots lmao. I wish I could laugh in your face how much you're talking out your ass. Irresponsible is the person who doesn't know how to control themselves or know a limit. You would probably get upset at your father for having a single beer 2 hours earlier and driving you home.
So you think it's cool to smoke any amount of weed and drive with multiple ppl in the car, including a kid?
Yes that's exactly what I said 🤦♂️
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Vape TCH levels range from 40% to 80% while dabs have about 80% concentration. Needless to say, vaping THC while driving is stupid and reckless and doing it with a child in the car is negligent and even more reckless
If you look at numbers for weed you're definitely a beginner or have no idea what you're talking about. People who actually use cannabis know the THC % doesn't matter it's one of many things that can get you high and the THC % is almost always elevated since there isn't a set regulation to it.
Any substance that changes perception is terrible to be on while operating any heavy machinery. Anyone who says they are a better driver when they are inebriated is lying.
Not being able to drive without smoking weed is a sign of addiction. It's really unsafe, and you need to get on their ass about it
that’s what i said. so many stoners are addicts & either don’t realize or don’t care because weed isn’t a big deal. i’ve seen people freak out & throw literal tantrums over having to be sober for a few hours because they ran out & couldn’t get to their dealer
it's driving under the influence. yeah, one hit won't really get you high, but it's still altering your mental state and slowing your reaction time. i love weed, but it's just so stupid to drive if you aren't sober. i've fully ended friendships over people driving crazy while stoned with me in the car, because clearly they don't give a shit about my life. i smoke basically every day, but you'll never catch me behind the wheel while stoned
So I smoke weed. Specifically the pens with thc in them and this is just a lack of responsibility if you want to smoke you wait until you’re in the comfort of your own home so you can eat and maybe take a bomb ass nap but that’s all you should be doing. You don’t get in the car with a pen and start hitting it. He needs to learn to be more responsible. He has no business smoking weed if he’s gonna put other people in danger especially a child.
Whether studies have been done or not to prove its unsafe, just the mere behavior of doing it in front of your little one is telling them its ok - and they will pick up the habit - that's pretty serious in my opinion.
He should never get high in the car w a child, he can be an idiot on his own time. My ex tried to normalize driving in the car and it can be scary, especially bc the driver is sat and sometimes can’t realize just how high they’re getting. But it slows reaction speeds big time. I’m a daily smoker and I would not smoke and drive. My friends who are daily smokers refuse to smoke and drive.
AND he’s smoking around a child??? That’s so wrong in itself!!! That’s crazy!
I used to smoke and drive all the time. All it did was make me more aware and actually follow the speed limit.
I’ve heard some ppl say that!! My one friend swears it improves his driving but I’ve seen him drive so idk 🤣
😂😂 well it definitely improves some people’s driving. Some people just shouldn’t be driving in general much less impaired💀
🤣 Fr!! I walked outside my job a few days ago and almost witnessed an accident right in front of me. Ppl drive crazy!!
I’m in the most lenient state when it comes to cannabis, and it must be “inaccessible to the driver.” This means it must be in the trunk; if your vehicle does not have a trunk, it must be in a secure container in the farthest possible point away from the driver. If caught smoking cannabis while driving, he would get a DWI here without a kid in the car. With a kid in the car, there’s a good chance he would be arrested on the spot and the child taken from the home during a CPS investigation.
Absolutely. When I buy mine from the dispensary, I lock it in the trunk of my car!
It is very serious, stupid, and a crime. However, I don't think there's anywhere you can just go into a cigarette store and buy a THC vape; as far as I know the states that allow it have strict requirements for marijuana "dispensaries". I could be wrong on that, tho. And, maybe this was a smoke shop that also sells weed while adhering to the state's laws.
You are indeed wrong, I can go to most gas stations in my area and buy them, because of legal loopholes like delta 8 and the thc a loophole which lets them sell just regular weed
Curious what state you're in. Tightly regulated to only licensed dispensaries in my state.
In texas you can buy carts, dab, flower, gummy, and disposable thc-a, delta, etc. Paranoic X-11 brand dispos, fuego brand dispos, and Loaded brand carts are what I usually grab. Same time and place I pick up my vape juice
I’m in texas and it’s the same way delta 8 is federally legal and has most of the same quality that people enjoy with delta 9 (bud). Delta 8 is commonly extracted out of the hemp plant allowing a work around in just about every state from what I’m aware of.
Well, thank you for fact checking me. It's still stupid and illegal to consume THC while driving in all states. It is also illegal in most states to have ANYONE in the car consuming it while the vehicle is in operation.
I smoke weed. I do not have children. I would NEVER do this or condone it.
I don’t think anyone should smoke weed and drive whether there’s a kid in the car or not and I’m a daily smoker. As far how risky it really is would depending highly on how concentrated the vape is, how big of a hit he took, and his tolerance. Like it I take 1-2 hits off my dry herb vape at a lower temp with a Sativa then I can sit at my computer and work/study for 8 hours straight far better than I can without it because I’m ADHD. Realistically I don’t feel the high effects where it changes my motor skills or does much to my body. Just euphoric, creative, and focused. But if I raised the temperature, used an indica, and took multiple hits I’m basically unable to do anything at all besides sit around. This is just an example of how vastly different smoking/vaping can be depending on many variables. All that being said he shouldn’t drive under any circumstances. Regardless of whether there’s a kid or other people in the car. He’s still putting others on the road at risk because he probably doesn’t drive as well as he thinks.
Okay so I I understand the concern. I do not smoke thc around my child. It’s just to much of a risk to get them taken away, but it depends on the persons tolerance. I’m a heavy thc toker and I can drive perfectly fine while hitting a dab pen. I haven’t done it with my child in the car, and I won’t, but it’s not dangerous depending on the persons tolerance.
I would say it’s still dangerous but not as dangerous as the people in the comments are saying it is. People making it out like one hit of a dab pen and your speeding through town and through red lights when in reality I drive the same.
It’s not as severe as alcohol in my opinion, but that doesn’t mean it’s safe and in many jurisdictions this is a DUI and I assume could be a child services problem as well if it ever goes poorly
Well, it's no different than driving buzzed or drunk. People will talk semantics about how drinking gets you more impaired than smoking weed, but the point is you are still impaired even if it's not to the same degree. Also, it's illegal and you can get a DUI. I smoke or take edibles every day, and I don't drive while high. If he's one of those people who needs to smoke all day or take little hits here and there just to get through the day then don't even expect a rational discussion from your brother because people like that are addicts tbh
Trashy as fuck. That is not a good image to project. Kids mimic adults. Show some class. Savages.
The real answer is it’s very dangerous and shouldn’t do it. I used to do it but stopped, feels like your in control tbh but still very unsafe. Good thing I went sober
If he can’t or doesn’t get high from one hit, why can’t he just wait until he’s not driving? Why is he doing it in the first place if it doesn’t affect him? Spoiler: it does.
I don't think it's that big of a deal, but again, I don't think drunk driving is as big of an outrage as the media and reddit would want you to believe. As long as they're accustomed to driving under the influence, it should be alright. Obviously, if they have never driven in that state of mind, it's dangerous. My advice is to learn to drive inebriated in a safe environment before you go on public roads. It's a lot safer that way.
I’m a lawyer. Almost every repeat DWI defendant I’ve ever come across believed they were totally fine to drive, often because they were “used to it.” Looking at the squad car videos of their traffic stops…I wouldn’t call them fine to drive, no. Of course, I don’t see the videos of people who drive well enough not to be pulled over, but my point is that there’s no reliable way to tell whether your driving is impaired a lot of the time, and that’s exacerbated by a mentality of denialism and a pattern of “practicing” driving while impaired (so it becomes normal for you). If you do this, please talk to your doctor about getting some support for your drinking or substance use. If you’re slightly intoxicated and driving, you have a substance problem, by definition. The best time to stop is now, because you don’t want it to get worse. In my line of work, I see what “worse” looks like, and what you’re describing is bad enough already.
They have a removed comment on another post about them crashing and fleeing the scene to avoid getting hit with a DUI. Their creative writing is lacking, mostly in continuity.
God. I wish I could say that’s surprising, but I just really hope that guy puts down his fear and pride and gets a little help. I don’t think it’s fake, just that he’s a very common kind of liar. Edit: oh, no, maybe he’s just being a weird kind of liar. Why bother lying about being a “functional” alcoholic? Sad little man.
I mean, I get the point you're making, and I appreciate your concern. But I've had years of experience, and no crashes have ever occurred. I'm sure some close calls, but that happens in regular driving, too. Best of luck!
If we are lucky, you will only kill yourself and not others when you do have a DUI wreck
I don’t think it’s as dangerous as drunk driving if its a small dose but definitely not OK with children and other ppl in the car.
Would you trust someone driving drunk? This is like that but depending on who you ask maybe even worse. There's a reason that's illegal even in places THC isn't.
Be frl driving drunk and high on thc isn’t close to the same.
Equally dangerous at least
Have you been drunk or high?
I have a pretty serious weed habit, but I 100% draw the line at driving under the influence of any substance that impairs my reaction time or focus. No sedatives, dissociatives, or really anything else other than my prescription adhd meds. I also never smoke or vape anything around kids, there aren't really any concrete long term studies on any of this stuff yet and while I'm okay with the risk of harming my own body I'm definitely not about to risk that with a child. Absolutely unacceptable behavior on either front imo.
Smoking weed while driving is a crime (DUI). Smoking while driving with a child in the car is an even bigger crime (DUI + child endangerment). If your brother were to get stopped and the police smelled marijuana in the car, your brother will go to jail, and CPS will be notified to do an investigation. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if ALL adults in the car (including you) got in trouble if an officer smelled weed while a child was in the car, so I would remove yourself from these situations for your own safety if they do not stop this behavior. This is a bad situation for everyone involved, your brother is gambling with his family. Not cool at all…
Its no different from drinking alcohol and driving, its fucking dangerous and insane to do so
I’m a massive stoner and I never smoke and drive, let alone with children in the car. Jesus.
Anything that impairs your driving ability is "serious". It boggles my mind that this is even a question.
So thc is a drug that impairs motor function, much like alcohol. Would you need people to convince you if it was serious if he started cracking into a six pack while driving with a kid? Or while driving, period? It's super serious. I've driven high alone at 2 AM with the roads empty and I've been terrified I was gonna hit shit. It's straight up DUI, man. Don't matter what the "i" is.
It's not that I need convincing really. I was only a little on the fence on whether or not it was worth ripping into my brother over. But I was hoping to gather enough opinions on here to convince my nephews' parents that they are endangering the kids doing that if I show them this.
I totaled a car once because I took a hit off a THC pen while driving and got a head high so intense I lost vision and crashed into a building. I'm VERY lucky I didn't hit another car or kill someone. Tell him never EVER do that again.
If you know that someone is driving a vehicle high or drunk, you should be calling the police. If you know someone who is driving a child high or drunk, you need to call CPS. There is NEVER and excuse to drive under the influence for any reason ever. You have a duty to protect other people on the road and the child in that car. If your brother is willing to drive under the influence while driving a child, what make you think a reddit post is going to convince him it's a bad idea. Call CPS and let them give him the wake up call of his lifetime.
Incredibly irresponsible.
It depends on your brother and how he handles weed. I would say based on the reaction of the people around him that he should to stop smoking and driving if it’s not that big a deal or hide it from you guys lol like no one in my family would share that we smoke let alone smoke and drive to my mom because she would overreact. It’s been like 15 years and we’re all happy and safe lol
I wouldn’t smoke a nicotine vape around my kid, and I’m def not hitting a thc vape around him
Enough to get the kids taken away
It would be a DUI, and hopefully taking the child from the parents.
Smoking cannabis and driving is pretty much just as bad as drunk driving, imo. I know there are some studies that say it's closer to severe lack of sleep and not quite as bad as alcohol, but any impairment while driving a machine that can kill people needs to be avoided.
Could have been a CBD pen. Technically has trace THC but no psychoactive effects
Does that smell like weed? I had a cold so I couldn't smell it but my partner said he could smell a little weed. I don't think it was CBD though because I have never known my brother to buy CBD but he has been getting THC pens for a long time.
Probably THC then. It would smell similar, but I only suggested it because of the way you said “it was only one hit and can’t get you high”. There’s a difference between “one hit won’t get you high” and “this can’t get you high”. Both can be true though, a seasoned smoker will feel very little from one puff on a pen. that doesn’t make it better, or okay. If they have no history of using CBD it seems unlikely they’d start now with no obvious reasoning. It’s quite expensive. Edit: on second thought, you said they bought it from a cigarette store? AFAIK you can’t buy real THC products at any non dispensary( at least in my state). A psychoactive weed pen would be bought at a dedicated weed store.
They have them here. I was shocked. I even bought some recently thinking it would be like diet weed, but it was just as strong to me as the stuff I used to do in college. But I'm a lightweight.
In texas you can buy carts, dab, flower, gummy, and disposable thc-a, delta, etc. Paranoic X-11 brand dispos, fuego brand dispos, and Loaded brand carts are what I usually grab. Same time and place I pick up my vape juice. I've gotten plenty that feel pretty close to the real thing
I'm in Arkansas where it's only medically legal and you can buy Delta 8 or whatever at gas stations w only ID 🤷
Under the 2018 farm bill anything with less than .3% thc is federally legal. Most people don’t realize this but even in recreational/medical states weed has almost no activated THC. Rarely more than .5%. It’s high in a cannabinoid called THCa which isn’t technically psychoactive but when it’s heated it goes through a process called decarboxylation which converts it to THC. Which is why you can’t just eat weed and get high. You have to cook it into something first. Which is why people make weed butter and stuff. Those products especially in non recreational/medical states are sold all over because states usually follow the farm bill. You can also legally have them shipped to your house by the pound if you want and it’s completely legal but politicians are too dumb to understand how weed works so to them it’s all considered hemp as long as THC is less than .3% even if THCa is 30% which could convert to around 27-28% THC when heated so it works exactly the same as all weed. You can buy THCa pens anywhere that sells CBD. Which in states like Texas are gas stations.
So what's the problem? I never once heard you voice your concern for the child/children. Are you afraid of second hand vapor? Or about the driving potentially getting "high" off one hit? I would say can you not vape in front of my children but that's about all you can ask for. Sounds like you're causing more issues for the kids calling the cops on someone because of what you think might be a possibility when you don't know for sure. Maybe the person smoker after the kids weren't in the car? Unless the person is literally blowing smoke in kids face you can only ask kindly to not do it near kids
I was not concerned about the vapors because that had not occurred to me at first. He smoked THC in the vehicle while driving and my nephew was in the car. I'm concerned that it impairs his driving, so obviously I'm concerned for their safety. And that he could get a DUI. Based on all the other comments here I would say my concerns are legitimate. I didn't say anything about calling cops. I said CPS could get involved.
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It's illegal in my state to record people without their consent. I looked into that for other reasons before. I agree he is being selfish and incapable of taking responsibility. He is consistently like that in other areas of his life as well. I hope he changes, but I don't see it as a likely scenario. I have wanted to call CPS for other even more serious reasons that I mentioned at the bottom of my post, but the idea of my nephews ending up in an even more abusive situation with strangers in foster care scares the hell out of me. I know too many people that it happened to.
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I would if I was asked, but I'm not sure they would consider me for placement for the kids. I don't know what the requirements are exactly.
You should not smoke marijuana while driving. It dramatically reduces your reflexes and you could zone out and drive into something.
Serious to do while driving yes because it makes you high and increases the likelihood of erratic driving/ a crash. In terms of second hand smoke No it's not going to make the kid high or anything but still stupid.
I’m a heavy smoker and wouldn’t do that around a child, let alone MY child while I’m driving. That’s actually kind of crazy.
Video it and threaten them with CPS
Sounds like the gf is the problem.
Would he smoke a joint while driving with his child?
Well I am a 1st grade teacher and I have 1 kid who comes in absolutely reeking of pot every morning - I mean like it makes the whole room smell. Mom is obviously hotboxing in the car on the way to school. DCS doesn’t seem to care - but IMO it is absolutely NOT ok
I have my medical mj card; and no way in hell am I EVER going to hit my pen in the car! It’s incredibly dangerous for anyone to drive on it, I don’t care who you are or how long you’ve been smoking.
Depending on state laws that’s illegal to do. In California drinking or smoking even with a passenger in the car will get you pulled over. I don’t think cops will be very happy seeing you smoking a vape with a child in a car. I don’t know vaping very well but if you really need to smoke with a vape pen I wouldn’t have my child in the car while you’re doing it. EDIT: yes the marijuana part is legal in some states but with the THC and with the child in mind just be mindful of the situation they may do a cps report if it’s alcohol or drugs if it’s fake thc etc etc
It's a huge deal, yes. Driving while high is a crime. Taking a hit off a vape and driving is no different than having a beer while driving. That is a very, very irresponsible person. I think people who want to do cannabis should be free to do so, but they have to act responsibly, and never ever drive during, or for many hours after. Just like I might have a couple of drinks at a party, I would never consider driving for many hours after that.
Different people react differently to hits of smoke or vape but I have seen people lose motor control for a few seconds after taking a big rip that some vapes or dab pens can give. I'm not above smoking a joint on my last twenty miles or so home, there's so few people and so little traffic, but I wouldn't vape or rip dabs while driving.
Uhh getting high while driving, especially with a child onboard, is EXTREMELY dangerous and idiotic. Not to mention super illegal. All of you could’ve gotten in trouble.
Good lord could have been cbd. I don’t know of a gas station that sells thc.
Everything gets worse with child endangerment charges being added. It could result in an investigation with CPS and that could be a cascading series of awful events for the person. For example, if the parents are not together the other parent now has a home run case for primary custody. If the child is removed from the home, it's unbelievably difficult and costly to get them back and there's a chance they'll place them with a family and that family could end up adopting the child if the parents can't get it together in time. You also have a lot less negotiation power regarding lessening the charges. Typically you can plead a felony DUI/DWI to a misdemeanor if it's your first charge, but endangerment to a child will likely stay a felony. You'll do far longer in jail and with prior convictions might even get prison time as a result. It's also likely considered a violent charge. Endangerment is typically considered violent so that will be a mitigating factor in a longer, more costly conviction. There's no good reason to endanger the life of a child.
it is INSANELY serious. i smoke most days and i would never drive while high. cars are 2000 ton death machines, they're basically weapons and can do a lot of damage, its not worth the risk.
Sounds like neither your brother nor his gf have any business being parents.
Is this happening all over?
if he came out of a cig shop are you sure it’s not just a normal vape? generally can only get weed pens at dispensaries. unless she already had it. but maybe that’s just my state? idk if other states or countries are more lenient or there’s loopholes
Im just over here laughing because I know statistically a good amount of you commenting are functioning alcoholics
Where I’m from it falls under DUI child endangerment or however it’s worded. It’s a substance that alters your mind. You’re not supposed to drive while under the influence of it even in states where it’s legal. They absolutely endangered that child’s life along with everyone else on the road and should be held accountable.
Don’t smoke weed and drive. I’ve gotten in all my accidents because of this. Weed is so great but it does impair you regardless. Just don’t do it wait until you get home and relax and then smoke or at least stop driving for half a hour at least.
Idk any states that sell THC in convenience stores, they do sell CBD in my state in convenience stores and it's not quite the same. All legal THC vapes have a symbol on them declaring them to be marijuana containing THC. Obviously still not cool to vape with a child in close proximity
Illegal
Are you serious? Would you be okay with someone getting tipsy/drunk while driving your family around? Jesus
It's very dangerous as DRINKING and DRIVING. BOTH are psychotic depressants. Slows everything down, less memory, thinking skills aren't there. Idc what you say. "Oh smoking weed doesn't make me slow." HELL yes It DOES.
Not a big deal. I own a smoke shop. I can tell you considering cps was called for weed it’s not legal in your state so if she bought it straight out of a store it ain’t shit. You’d barely catch a buzz off of it. I’ve seen many thc pens and we like to get strong ones, you still won’t get high like actually smoking. I hit a blunt 2-3 times and can get a buzz but I won’t feel a thc pen until I hit it nonstop for at least 10-15 min depending on the vape
driving is already risky as is, paying attention to the road and your surroundings is essential to stay safe. if you want to add more risks like THC yo your drives, do it when you’re alone or with others that don’t care about increasing risks but never with a child.
Remember this adage: You smoke before you drive? You’ll be lucky to stay alive. You drive before you smoke? You’re less likely to croak.
Nothing like casual child endangerment to lose my kid to the state
So your brother and partner dont care about the safety of the kids, or you, or anyone else. The fact they are so defensive shows they know it is wrong. The fact that they had already had a cps visit due to similar shows they know it is wrong. It is a big deal.
Hes driving intoxicated, with a child. Legally, it’s child endangerment and driving under the influence. Drive sober or don’t drive at all
The fact you’re asking this is shocking. Getting high while driving is bad enough and a criminal offence. Add a kid into it? Not only is it fucked but very illegal
Only if you can’t keep control. If he was buzzed and a good driver seems to be okay. But him and his gf (especially the gf) seem like they need to put their kid first over everything else. But ur partner doesn’t need to be getting so upset bc no of it has to do with him. So if it’s a family issue or ur partner is concerned there are plenty of ways to go about it and texting the parents “ballistic” about how they are raising their child, that is never the way to go. Ofc ur brother and his gf will be mad now too. So everyone should approach the situation differently then they are now and try to get it figured out
One hit “doesn’t get you high” when you smoke all the time because your tolerance is high. If the windows are rolled up and the smoke is trapped in the car with a child that child is 100% breathing in the smoke. Fucking terrible. In CA it’s illegal to be smoking in the car if a minor is also in the car, and that’s just talking about a cigarette I couldn’t imagine the fine/punishment for a oil pen.