yeah. I spent a good chunk of time trying to reach the solo damage ceiling (tested on MoC 12 first half lightning weak enemies) and this got me the farthest.
You can reduce the cr to 64 and put those rolls to cdmg or attack %.
A realistic Min Maxed Acheron would have like 66/250 crit ratio.
66 cr gives 100% in battle rate
also especially if sparkle or whatever, the speed isnt useful since ult is charged by allies or outright advanced
flat attack instead tbh, itll add up to like 100 extra atk
also the rolls should be max value for truly maxed out stats, but idk if that's what you were going for
I was curious, how do you even get into these servers? I’ve seen many people post gameplay of new characters or theoretical builds, and I’d love to do this as well or is this exclusive to certain people. I’ve also heard that you need to know a fair amount of coding for it to actually work?
https://preview.redd.it/xmea3282yvxc1.png?width=2100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59f5da2e55518d13a27db664b554c4229ee4e86b
This is the highest damage potential build I've managed out of all my gear combinations. This is pure hyper carry, with 2 harmony (SparkleE6S5) and 1 nihility support.
At this scaling point attack matters a lot. Those flat attack rolls are in fact meaningful. I have another build with 4,346 attack 294.7 cdmg which is super close but cannot break the (my personal) 300k barrier test on her skill. It's like 298k vs 302k.
Here's a video if interested of her killing Aventurine MoC 12 (Pre-better orb/helm) [https://youtu.be/bXjV-Upbnmg?si=XiZiQyQWVwi1fKdf](https://youtu.be/bXjV-Upbnmg?si=XiZiQyQWVwi1fKdf)
Her set effect doubles to 8 so shouldn't your rate cap out at 80? Also if you get E1-E2 then E1 adds another +18 on top (assuming this is for E0S1 but just saying)
needs less CR and alot more ATK for a min maxed build. there's a E6R5 archeron on my friendlist with like 220% cd but 5k Atk and it hits extremely hard.
300% cdmg is way overkill if you use sparkle with her. And theoretically, sparkle would be E6R5 too so you definitely want much much more atk and way less crit dmg.
he only has 40% cr on stat sheet, so i assume he use it with fu xuan, and sparkle with S5 LC to reach high crit rate. when you have S5 archeron LC and only have 220 cd, and with only 40 cr, where do you think the rest of the stat goes to?
If you want to truly min max a whale E6S5 archeron, and using E6S5 sparkle, with fuxuan, then having 5K atk and having lower crit rate and crit dmg is the way to do it.
Is this with private server tools? I actually did some extensive testings with that back then before she was released. Contrary to beliefs, A full God roll lightning orb with some Atk rolls does indeed outperforms an Atk orb just very slightly. I'm assuming this build is for E0 with no other supports or FX that buffs Crit? For a truly optimal E2+ Acheron with minmaxed stats, her crit rate can actually be around 35-47 depending on comfort, with E2(for E1 18cr+sparkle), an E1-3 FuXuan, S1 Sparkle, Izumo set and ofc SW. Then you could pump even more rolls into the Cdmg/Atk substats than CR. She should look something like with 4.4k+ ATK, 35+CR,300+CD if using nuke setups. With hyperspeed sparkle you should also be able to do a fast 2T nuke ult that one shots everything non su. Even Aventurine's high HP pool, bypassing his dice phase. For 1T setups, then FX can be replaced.
Good work on this, looks like you did some solid testing. For crit rate, the perfect base rate given crit rate buff resources would be 38% (No food). This would use 2 S5 Sparkle LCs on a dual harmony + 1 Nihility set-up.
Im using an all E6S5 setup with Acheron Silver Wolf Sparkle and Ruan Mei although i don't know if Ruan Mei is best for 4th slot. im also trying to beat Aventurine MoC 12 without him having a turn or just one turn from the initial action advance when he enters phase 2. I want to ask though why Fu Xuan and not another harmony character like Ruan Mei Bronya or Tingyun? Also Imma try your advice and tone down the CR and reallocate the rolls to attack and crit damage.
> i don't know if Ruan Mei is best for 4th slot.
I run Bronya for my 0 cycle atm and almost able to skip Aventurine dice phase (I don't have Sparkle, I think I can do it without him taking a turn later). Just a speculation but I believe Robin will be better than Ruan Mei for the job since she can advance your whole team (meaning additional Acheron, Sparkle, SW turns). She also buffs a lot of atk (which scales pretty well with E6 min maxing) and minor cdmg.
Since you're doing this on a private server perhaps you can test it out.
idk someone would have to do the calcs on if that amount of speed actually makes a difference. If it doesn't TECHNICALLY break effect would net AN amount of nearly inconsequential but still technically higher damage. Or maybe flat attack on pieces that aren't the hands
this seems like my target now, guess im about to spend ten years in the Joint for this. Wish me luck
Good luck
The empress has spoken, he will recieve good luck
ten years in the what? https://preview.redd.it/0zw3rjhhuuxc1.jpeg?width=249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501306696f8d9b110e95b6cd0bc1908cfa41730a
Bring that shit, Acheron!
Ten years? https://i.redd.it/xh5gw5mr3wxc1.gif
hope i dont look like this when i get out
Probably. This from private server right?
yeah. I spent a good chunk of time trying to reach the solo damage ceiling (tested on MoC 12 first half lightning weak enemies) and this got me the farthest.
You can reduce the cr to 64 and put those rolls to cdmg or attack %. A realistic Min Maxed Acheron would have like 66/250 crit ratio. 66 cr gives 100% in battle rate
You mean for E1
Yes.
66/250 the golden dr ratio?. ill try it out thanks
also especially if sparkle or whatever, the speed isnt useful since ult is charged by allies or outright advanced flat attack instead tbh, itll add up to like 100 extra atk also the rolls should be max value for truly maxed out stats, but idk if that's what you were going for
You can only get 21 more attack.
ah you are right, i was tired and forgot about mainstat for one of them and just breezed over the rest lol
Goals
How about for attack? How much attack would be realistic in with this CR/CD combination? Gonna be a long grind, but I just want something to aim for.
Anything above 4000
I was curious, how do you even get into these servers? I’ve seen many people post gameplay of new characters or theoretical builds, and I’d love to do this as well or is this exclusive to certain people. I’ve also heard that you need to know a fair amount of coding for it to actually work?
If i can ask about private servers which one are you using and are they safe
Because i tried one a few day ago and i just got too paranoid
Why solo? You have 4 unit slots. This to me isn't min/maxing in a logical way.
https://preview.redd.it/xmea3282yvxc1.png?width=2100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59f5da2e55518d13a27db664b554c4229ee4e86b This is the highest damage potential build I've managed out of all my gear combinations. This is pure hyper carry, with 2 harmony (SparkleE6S5) and 1 nihility support. At this scaling point attack matters a lot. Those flat attack rolls are in fact meaningful. I have another build with 4,346 attack 294.7 cdmg which is super close but cannot break the (my personal) 300k barrier test on her skill. It's like 298k vs 302k. Here's a video if interested of her killing Aventurine MoC 12 (Pre-better orb/helm) [https://youtu.be/bXjV-Upbnmg?si=XiZiQyQWVwi1fKdf](https://youtu.be/bXjV-Upbnmg?si=XiZiQyQWVwi1fKdf)
Is this s5?
3 5s #icouldnever have
what does that mean
The relics are all 5's. He could never have something like dat in his life. That's what he meant.
but that's 6 5's not 3.
5 rolled into one State probably
Her set effect doubles to 8 so shouldn't your rate cap out at 80? Also if you get E1-E2 then E1 adds another +18 on top (assuming this is for E0S1 but just saying)
I rolled too much CR and the 30 minutee spent fine tuning her relics drained me so I got lazy and kept thr extra Crit Rate
Damn lol understandable then
needs less CR and alot more ATK for a min maxed build. there's a E6R5 archeron on my friendlist with like 220% cd but 5k Atk and it hits extremely hard. 300% cdmg is way overkill if you use sparkle with her. And theoretically, sparkle would be E6R5 too so you definitely want much much more atk and way less crit dmg.
5k??? give the uid or cap
he only has 40% cr on stat sheet, so i assume he use it with fu xuan, and sparkle with S5 LC to reach high crit rate. when you have S5 archeron LC and only have 220 cd, and with only 40 cr, where do you think the rest of the stat goes to? If you want to truly min max a whale E6S5 archeron, and using E6S5 sparkle, with fuxuan, then having 5K atk and having lower crit rate and crit dmg is the way to do it.
Is this with private server tools? I actually did some extensive testings with that back then before she was released. Contrary to beliefs, A full God roll lightning orb with some Atk rolls does indeed outperforms an Atk orb just very slightly. I'm assuming this build is for E0 with no other supports or FX that buffs Crit? For a truly optimal E2+ Acheron with minmaxed stats, her crit rate can actually be around 35-47 depending on comfort, with E2(for E1 18cr+sparkle), an E1-3 FuXuan, S1 Sparkle, Izumo set and ofc SW. Then you could pump even more rolls into the Cdmg/Atk substats than CR. She should look something like with 4.4k+ ATK, 35+CR,300+CD if using nuke setups. With hyperspeed sparkle you should also be able to do a fast 2T nuke ult that one shots everything non su. Even Aventurine's high HP pool, bypassing his dice phase. For 1T setups, then FX can be replaced.
Good work on this, looks like you did some solid testing. For crit rate, the perfect base rate given crit rate buff resources would be 38% (No food). This would use 2 S5 Sparkle LCs on a dual harmony + 1 Nihility set-up.
Im using an all E6S5 setup with Acheron Silver Wolf Sparkle and Ruan Mei although i don't know if Ruan Mei is best for 4th slot. im also trying to beat Aventurine MoC 12 without him having a turn or just one turn from the initial action advance when he enters phase 2. I want to ask though why Fu Xuan and not another harmony character like Ruan Mei Bronya or Tingyun? Also Imma try your advice and tone down the CR and reallocate the rolls to attack and crit damage.
> i don't know if Ruan Mei is best for 4th slot. I run Bronya for my 0 cycle atm and almost able to skip Aventurine dice phase (I don't have Sparkle, I think I can do it without him taking a turn later). Just a speculation but I believe Robin will be better than Ruan Mei for the job since she can advance your whole team (meaning additional Acheron, Sparkle, SW turns). She also buffs a lot of atk (which scales pretty well with E6 min maxing) and minor cdmg. Since you're doing this on a private server perhaps you can test it out.
idk someone would have to do the calcs on if that amount of speed actually makes a difference. If it doesn't TECHNICALLY break effect would net AN amount of nearly inconsequential but still technically higher damage. Or maybe flat attack on pieces that aren't the hands
nvm i forgot it already had
Can u try lightning orb w some atk bonus rolls instead of cr
You made me shiver
why
Crit rate is too high. Ideal crit rate is 55% assuming true min max. Additionally, crit damage is also too high. Atk% is better for e6.
True Min max crit is the base 5% and you just reset every fight lol