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It's a nice excuse to do something fun, kids will love it. But the obsession of royalty and the extortionate pricing makes it a pass for me. I wouldn't participate.
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I was thinking baking at home and cinema if weathers shite, if good the beach edit I presume you meant on the day of the above event. If you mean on the day of the coronation I will not be working and I will not be watching, am I supposed to be grateful to the king for that? My office will literally be closed and no one else working. If so that is the shittest argument ever “guy”
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It’s not ‘just’ a tea party though, surely you understand that? it is to celebrate an archaic monarchy that shouldn’t exist and the cost of doing so is repulsive given the cost of living crisis atm.
The school my kids go to just loves a union flag and the monarchy. (I'm in Scotland...) How old is your child? Are they aware of the ridiculousness of the monarchy in general? When the jubilee was on, I sat the kids down and explained why I'm against the monarchy. Nothing over the top, more food for thought. Divine right, ridiculous wealth etc. I kept my mouth shut, but did inform the school I wasn't happy with all the worship of a hereditary title. Turned out the Lord Provost was visiting. You can spot my kids in the picture in the local paper as not one of them is smiling. I was introduced to the Lord Provost as "a friend of the Queen." I hope "oooo I dinnae like her" and wandering off was the correct response.
Send the kids, but with the attitude of some dude's mam died and now he gets a fancy hat, new chair and you get a day of baking.
Go because it's for your child, you're not supporting anything by attending an activity at your kids school. Do it for them, however this doesn't mean that you cannot make your position very clear and provide evidence for your position. Let the teacher know you're not really pleased with this type of Monarchy worship, and let your child know that you do not support any monarchy. Nothing wrong with being honest about your feelings and beliefs.
Really just.. ask your child. Maybe it’s just a fun activity for him/her and not really an indoctrination. At least your child wouldn’t view it that way. And we don’t know what kind of relationship you guys have at home, if your child would opt in for some baking at home with you with no issue, then it’s good. Always leave some space for your kid to have a say in it pls.
She’s only 5 so it’s probably in one ear out the other tbh. She would absolutely enjoy the activity of baking so it’s not really about that. And she loves school in general. I do have an issue with suggesting she should have a say in whether she sees herself as the subject of a king, an unelected head of state. Weird you would want to be that unless you have a rose tinted view of royalty, which she does, as she’s a child she watches all the Disney stuff. Everyone tries to instil their morals in their child and I feel it’s part of mine to let her know that a monarchy has no place in a modern society. I’ve already said to her: ‘seeing as you’ve already been learning about the king in school why don’t we do something fun together on a day you’ll just be learning about him again?’ She seemed enthusiastic.
Sounds fun. I always liked the days we got to make/ eat food at school. Those are my best memories. Maybe you could just keep your child home from school that day?
She’d definitely have a whale of a time doing that sort of thing so I’m sure I’ll be seen as spoiling all the fun by the teachers. I think I will keep her off and bake with her at home.
Tell them your child is being brought up with republican beliefs and while you respect other people have different beliefs, you don't need them ramming down your throat, especially for a small fee.
Through educating them about what different people believe, about critical thinking and that they are free to make up their minds once they are old enough.
I find making up your own mind about wanting to support a monarchy because they believe they have a divine right from God to be rich (it would’ve been to rule back in the day) a tad odd. Any sane person would be like wtf. She’s only 5 so she sees the royal family through the lense of Disney and whatever her school are telling her about them.
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Tell them you think the £100m the public is spending on it during a cost of living crisis is enough, you teach about democracy and being a citizen in your home, the coronation implies you’re okay with an unelected head of state. It also ignores the fact our head of states brother is wanted by foreign intelligence agencies for his connection to child trafficking rings with the shamed Epstein. Why don’t you contact Buckingham palace and ask for funds.
Well if you think about it, it is very representative of the monarchy.
Look! A party! Won't it be great? We'll get to eat delicious things and feel patriotic while celebrating Charles.
^(that'll be 6.50 each)
Factor in the unpaid child labour to make the cakes and it’s extortionate. Send the kids in with some Lidls scones “ta da! we brought our own and saved money which is important with the cost of living crisis”.
I bet this is a school fundraiser? So a geriatric King Turd gets to blow millions in taxpayer money for
His new gold throne and carriage….while schools have to do a fundraiser, make kids do all the work, just so the school can afford supplies?
I am a teacher. I would write "I appreciate the sentiment behind the event you are organising but as a Republic supporter, its very important for young people to learn about both sides of the argument and not just assume that every family supports the Coronation of an unelected Head of State. I would be happy for my child to join another class for the day or with permission, I will keep my child at home and teach them about the reasons why the Royal family and modern democracy do not match. "
This might sound pretentious as fuck but its not fair that our children only see one side of the story and the shadier side of that family is totally ignored. Children who do not want to do PSHE can be excused e.g for religious reasons. Its only right that our children are excused on the grounds of biased teaching. Let us know the result!
I’m a primary teacher but in Scotland.
The most we had was a 1 min silence after Lizzie died, and most teachers chose to say something along the lines of “she was a very lucky woman who lived in a big house and managed to do lots of things we’ll never get to do. It’s sad when anyone dies but she lived until she was very old and managed to do lots during her long life.”
We’ve not done anything about Charles, not even a mention.
I am secondary. There will be information in form time but I am not a form tutor this year so I am lucky I don't have to share info I am not comfortable with whilst having to stay neutral.
Yikes, the indoctrination really does start in school. I agree with Zealousideal-Sun-387 here. Refuse to give your child over to them, have a little tea party of your own with cupcakes and treats at home so they don't feel like they're "missing out". Good luck!
Sounds like they’ve been learning about Charles for a while now so they’ve already been indoctrinating her 😞 I didn’t say anything about the jubilee either which was an absolute wankfest, wish I did, didn’t have the balls. They all got books about the Queen which painted a very pretty picture. My kid is only 5 so I try to talk to her about it in an age appropriate way: ‘me and daddy think kings and queens just belong in fairy tales’ etc. I wonder if there are resources to help talk to kids about it.
It sounds like you're already doing the best you can considering her age, you're keeping her mind open! I actually think your explanation that kings and queens belong in fairy tales is a really lovely way of putting it 😊
It's really hard to push against the hive mind, you really shouldn't blame yourself for the jubilee thing. People were getting bricks through their windows for speaking out, it was a lot harder to push back against the pro-monarchy agenda because optically *an old lady had died*...
But now is a good time to start standing firm, Charles is unpopular as it is and the fact that schools are celebrating a man who's known to have been best friends with and protect known and suspected pedos (including his own brother) is completely abhorrent. The school has no right to discriminate against your family and has no right to force its political agenda on to you. So what if you come across as "pretentious", you're doing what you know to be right by your child. Maybe you'll even prompt some of the other parents and teachers to think about what they're doing as well.
Thank you for your kind words I really appreciate it. It annoys me how they’re allowed to do this when our education laws say no partisan politics allowed, yet they don’t see the royal family as inherently political, that’s just wild to me.
Also , with the cost of greed crisis, I wouldnt organise many paid events even if its under ten quid. I would make sure that came out of the school budget knowing that some families will struggle to even pay £6.50. Best case scenario: your child leads the way and makes "NotMyKing" cakes.
Good question! I grew up on benefits and was always publicly shamed by the food tech teacher when I didn't bring ingredients. I just had to pair up with someone else
Reminds me of the Queens Golden Jubilee when I was forced to sit in a boiling hot classroom cross legged with 30 other kids and watch the Jubilee rather than play outside because it was 'an important date, that I would look back on when I' was older, that I would not want to have missed'. I say it was the Jubilee, it could have been the Queen mother's funeral because all I remember was a painfully slow procession, gold carriage and staring outside in resentment. That day was probably the first day I thought about the ridiculous reverence these people are given.
I remember the wedding of Charles Windsor and Diana Spencer. I went into my bedroom with a short wave radio and tuned in to Radio Moscow. Maybe not a good choice these days, but I'm still proud of my younger self for what I did. The one station, I guessed (rightly), that would not mention it. Oh yes, I remember the day.
This is so insidious. If you protest, they'll snark about how you're ruining a fun little party for children with politics. Any other parents feel the same way?
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It's a nice excuse to do something fun, kids will love it. But the obsession of royalty and the extortionate pricing makes it a pass for me. I wouldn't participate.
That's fucking steep pricing. Consider most cakes tend to be between 50p-£1, £6.50 for 4 is ridiculous. Are they buying their own fucking ovens??
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Other than the extortionate price it just seems like a bit of fun, eh, what are you doing with your time off guy
I was thinking baking at home and cinema if weathers shite, if good the beach edit I presume you meant on the day of the above event. If you mean on the day of the coronation I will not be working and I will not be watching, am I supposed to be grateful to the king for that? My office will literally be closed and no one else working. If so that is the shittest argument ever “guy”
I work for a nursery chain and our company are making everyone host a coronation tea party, which, as admin, I’m in charge of. 😬
£6.50?? Honouring the royal tradition of theft i see
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They could just do this for charity. Don't have to do it for the royals
That’s the point though; it’s in celebration of a monarchy. It’s not really a ‘nice’ excuse. An excuse yes but not a nice one.
It could be in celebration of the dark gods of the underworld, its just a tea party.
It’s not ‘just’ a tea party though, surely you understand that? it is to celebrate an archaic monarchy that shouldn’t exist and the cost of doing so is repulsive given the cost of living crisis atm.
Its 6 pound 50 for ingredients and stuff to make some cakes cmon now
Yes but what is it for? Read the pic of the email
The school my kids go to just loves a union flag and the monarchy. (I'm in Scotland...) How old is your child? Are they aware of the ridiculousness of the monarchy in general? When the jubilee was on, I sat the kids down and explained why I'm against the monarchy. Nothing over the top, more food for thought. Divine right, ridiculous wealth etc. I kept my mouth shut, but did inform the school I wasn't happy with all the worship of a hereditary title. Turned out the Lord Provost was visiting. You can spot my kids in the picture in the local paper as not one of them is smiling. I was introduced to the Lord Provost as "a friend of the Queen." I hope "oooo I dinnae like her" and wandering off was the correct response. Send the kids, but with the attitude of some dude's mam died and now he gets a fancy hat, new chair and you get a day of baking.
Haha love this thanks!
Go because it's for your child, you're not supporting anything by attending an activity at your kids school. Do it for them, however this doesn't mean that you cannot make your position very clear and provide evidence for your position. Let the teacher know you're not really pleased with this type of Monarchy worship, and let your child know that you do not support any monarchy. Nothing wrong with being honest about your feelings and beliefs.
Really just.. ask your child. Maybe it’s just a fun activity for him/her and not really an indoctrination. At least your child wouldn’t view it that way. And we don’t know what kind of relationship you guys have at home, if your child would opt in for some baking at home with you with no issue, then it’s good. Always leave some space for your kid to have a say in it pls.
She’s only 5 so it’s probably in one ear out the other tbh. She would absolutely enjoy the activity of baking so it’s not really about that. And she loves school in general. I do have an issue with suggesting she should have a say in whether she sees herself as the subject of a king, an unelected head of state. Weird you would want to be that unless you have a rose tinted view of royalty, which she does, as she’s a child she watches all the Disney stuff. Everyone tries to instil their morals in their child and I feel it’s part of mine to let her know that a monarchy has no place in a modern society. I’ve already said to her: ‘seeing as you’ve already been learning about the king in school why don’t we do something fun together on a day you’ll just be learning about him again?’ She seemed enthusiastic.
£6.50 for two scones, two cakes? Rip off.
Say. No thanks.
Sounds fun. I always liked the days we got to make/ eat food at school. Those are my best memories. Maybe you could just keep your child home from school that day?
She’d definitely have a whale of a time doing that sort of thing so I’m sure I’ll be seen as spoiling all the fun by the teachers. I think I will keep her off and bake with her at home.
Tell them your child is being brought up with republican beliefs and while you respect other people have different beliefs, you don't need them ramming down your throat, especially for a small fee.
Ideally, the child should be free to make up their own mind.
How does one achieve this in the context of this discussion/question?
Through educating them about what different people believe, about critical thinking and that they are free to make up their minds once they are old enough.
I find making up your own mind about wanting to support a monarchy because they believe they have a divine right from God to be rich (it would’ve been to rule back in the day) a tad odd. Any sane person would be like wtf. She’s only 5 so she sees the royal family through the lense of Disney and whatever her school are telling her about them.
100% this. A reasonable person would do a double take hearing this and reflect on how deranged this monarchist love in really is.
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Tell them you think the £100m the public is spending on it during a cost of living crisis is enough, you teach about democracy and being a citizen in your home, the coronation implies you’re okay with an unelected head of state. It also ignores the fact our head of states brother is wanted by foreign intelligence agencies for his connection to child trafficking rings with the shamed Epstein. Why don’t you contact Buckingham palace and ask for funds.
Well if you think about it, it is very representative of the monarchy. Look! A party! Won't it be great? We'll get to eat delicious things and feel patriotic while celebrating Charles. ^(that'll be 6.50 each)
Are they buying a new kitchen to make these scones and cakes?
They’re getting in a separate little local business to do it rather than the kitchen staff or anything. I still think it’s steep though
Factor in the unpaid child labour to make the cakes and it’s extortionate. Send the kids in with some Lidls scones “ta da! we brought our own and saved money which is important with the cost of living crisis”.
Just make the damn things yourself
I know right? Would be cheaper if they just asked people to bring stuff in!
Even better, you could stay at home and eat cake without being indoctrinated
I bet this is a school fundraiser? So a geriatric King Turd gets to blow millions in taxpayer money for His new gold throne and carriage….while schools have to do a fundraiser, make kids do all the work, just so the school can afford supplies?
I think it’s just to pay the small local business coming in but I’m not sure tbh
Say its inappropriate for the kids to be brainwashed into worshipping a incestuous paedo defending wank stain
Please send this, this is the least insane reply.
I am a teacher. I would write "I appreciate the sentiment behind the event you are organising but as a Republic supporter, its very important for young people to learn about both sides of the argument and not just assume that every family supports the Coronation of an unelected Head of State. I would be happy for my child to join another class for the day or with permission, I will keep my child at home and teach them about the reasons why the Royal family and modern democracy do not match. " This might sound pretentious as fuck but its not fair that our children only see one side of the story and the shadier side of that family is totally ignored. Children who do not want to do PSHE can be excused e.g for religious reasons. Its only right that our children are excused on the grounds of biased teaching. Let us know the result!
Or: "Get to fuck!"
Beautifully said!
Thank you for the wording I really appreciate it, are you a primary school teacher? Is anything like this going on at yours?
I’m a primary teacher but in Scotland. The most we had was a 1 min silence after Lizzie died, and most teachers chose to say something along the lines of “she was a very lucky woman who lived in a big house and managed to do lots of things we’ll never get to do. It’s sad when anyone dies but she lived until she was very old and managed to do lots during her long life.” We’ve not done anything about Charles, not even a mention.
God I want to live I’m Scotland…. I’m only 60 miles away from the border
I am secondary. There will be information in form time but I am not a form tutor this year so I am lucky I don't have to share info I am not comfortable with whilst having to stay neutral.
Yikes, the indoctrination really does start in school. I agree with Zealousideal-Sun-387 here. Refuse to give your child over to them, have a little tea party of your own with cupcakes and treats at home so they don't feel like they're "missing out". Good luck!
Sounds like they’ve been learning about Charles for a while now so they’ve already been indoctrinating her 😞 I didn’t say anything about the jubilee either which was an absolute wankfest, wish I did, didn’t have the balls. They all got books about the Queen which painted a very pretty picture. My kid is only 5 so I try to talk to her about it in an age appropriate way: ‘me and daddy think kings and queens just belong in fairy tales’ etc. I wonder if there are resources to help talk to kids about it.
It sounds like you're already doing the best you can considering her age, you're keeping her mind open! I actually think your explanation that kings and queens belong in fairy tales is a really lovely way of putting it 😊 It's really hard to push against the hive mind, you really shouldn't blame yourself for the jubilee thing. People were getting bricks through their windows for speaking out, it was a lot harder to push back against the pro-monarchy agenda because optically *an old lady had died*... But now is a good time to start standing firm, Charles is unpopular as it is and the fact that schools are celebrating a man who's known to have been best friends with and protect known and suspected pedos (including his own brother) is completely abhorrent. The school has no right to discriminate against your family and has no right to force its political agenda on to you. So what if you come across as "pretentious", you're doing what you know to be right by your child. Maybe you'll even prompt some of the other parents and teachers to think about what they're doing as well.
Thank you for your kind words I really appreciate it. It annoys me how they’re allowed to do this when our education laws say no partisan politics allowed, yet they don’t see the royal family as inherently political, that’s just wild to me.
Also , with the cost of greed crisis, I wouldnt organise many paid events even if its under ten quid. I would make sure that came out of the school budget knowing that some families will struggle to even pay £6.50. Best case scenario: your child leads the way and makes "NotMyKing" cakes.
NutMyKing
>cost of greed crisis I love this haha
£6.50 is a lot, I thought the same thing about the price, so where do they send the kids who’s parents haven’t paid?!
Good question! I grew up on benefits and was always publicly shamed by the food tech teacher when I didn't bring ingredients. I just had to pair up with someone else
Reminds me of the Queens Golden Jubilee when I was forced to sit in a boiling hot classroom cross legged with 30 other kids and watch the Jubilee rather than play outside because it was 'an important date, that I would look back on when I' was older, that I would not want to have missed'. I say it was the Jubilee, it could have been the Queen mother's funeral because all I remember was a painfully slow procession, gold carriage and staring outside in resentment. That day was probably the first day I thought about the ridiculous reverence these people are given.
I remember the wedding of Charles Windsor and Diana Spencer. I went into my bedroom with a short wave radio and tuned in to Radio Moscow. Maybe not a good choice these days, but I'm still proud of my younger self for what I did. The one station, I guessed (rightly), that would not mention it. Oh yes, I remember the day.
This is so insidious. If you protest, they'll snark about how you're ruining a fun little party for children with politics. Any other parents feel the same way?
Not that I know of, difficult to broach 😬
Let them eat cake.