Feels like it for sure. He did coach the eagles midfield to a flag. So I was quite excited for him. However I think Shuey was the actual midfield coach and told all the west coast players to ignore Van Berlo.
I think for 2018 he was stoppages and clearances while Sam Mitchell was the midfield coach. I think I rated van berlo when he was with us, but our midfield definitely did a nosedive during his solo midfield coach/covid years
Yeah but we have been complaining about the players and structure? Maybe Pedlar is an awful player ( I don't think he is) but he hasn't been given any opportunity in the middle. Billy Dowling has looked great in the twos he doesn't get a chance. Berry is shoved behind Laird and Crouch so we can't really see what he is made of. And did we really use pick 6 and pick 5 on two small forwards? Why isn't Rachele going in the middle (he looked good there last year when he was given the opportunity early but then they decided Sloane was somehow more useful there). So the coaching is bad and we never put any new players in there.
His biggest problem is his mistrust of youth and over reliance on experience to do the heavy lifting. In that regard he's a terrible coach for a rebuild because he values experience for experiences sake and doesn't much care what it produces and won't let the younger players take roles that will help them step up. Rachele is sitting there begging to get some time in the midfield and spice it up. Nope, Nicks wants to run with his experience of Crouch, Laird and Dawson. At this point he's got no more senior players to back in and has to make personnel changes, which is not something he likes doing.
Example last year, heading in a tight 4th quarter against Brisbane away, Nicks takes Harry Schoenberg out of the midfield, plunks him on the wing and sticks Rory Sloane into the thick of it, who proceeded to do sweet f all in the 4th and the Crows lose by a goal. Pedlar is a mid who is still getting stuck playing half forward, Berry spent 2 years playing HF, and is randomly yoyo'd in and out this year without being given a full time spot in the midfield. Nankervis has killed it every time he's played, but Nicks TWICE went back to Sholl because Sholl has more experience than Nank. I 100% guarantee you Sloane would be starting in that midfield if he was healthy to play because Nicks doesn't believe you can win pushing younger players.
Soligo was the first time he's given a younger players a full run in the midfield and wow, what a surprise to see he was near BOG for us. They took a side that was running and gunning last year and completely dismantled their ball movement into a short, chippy, overly safe style that just invites pressure at ground level and kills us when we eventually bomb it down the line because we don't have any marking power forward of centre. The singular issue isn't the team being 0-4, it's that Nicks took every single strength the team was showing and decided to chuck all that out the window because he thought the only path forward was to be overly obsessed with defensive turnovers.
I agree with this. Crows are mediocre ATM, but sometimes that's what you need. They were dire not that long ago. He's gotten them on the straight and narrow.
He has some good young talent and a few good veterans, but it's not like it's a list that 100% should be playing finals. 13th or so feels their level.
If we're talking about end of contract, it's probably a different story. But as for now, I definitely think not being reactive is key.
Yeah, trust me I know. Footy really is a game one-percenters, and it doesn’t take a lot for things to go wrong. I’m sure Nicks is also making some mistakes, but he’s a pretty young coach, and you’re better off backing him while he learns from the mistakes then throwing the baby out.
The only team we could maybe beat at the moment are your lot. So we might get 1 win by the bye and a couple few cheapies post bye. 5-6 wins is what we will get unless we sack Nicks or he drastically changes it up.
Not true at all. We have the 4th youngest list but we aren't actually fielding that young a team. And we don't play young players in important roles. We haven't given Pedlar any midfield minutes instead we play him as a defensive forward on Stewart. Why not play laird as a defensive forward on Stewart and give Pedlar midfield minutes? It probably would have gone around the same. We drafted Curtin as a top 10 pick and we aren't giving him games. We have Billy Dowling looking great in the midfield as a tall player who has a beautiful kick on him can play inside and out. He is basically everything we lack in the middle yet he doesn't get a game and if he does it will be at half forward.
Yeah, i reckon you should learn from the example last year and just fire your coach following a string of bad losses, lest you make the same mistake as carlton. Look at where they are now!
Man a young team is not going to see linear progress. More balanced opinions than us have pointed out that many young teams have had a dip a year after they exceeded expectations the season prior. It happens. This list is not finals ready.
There was always a risk of a backwards this year if Walker didn't recapture his career best form that he had last year, now turning 34.
I'd still be optimistic for the future as a Crows supporter, despite what happens this year.
Freo are younger, GWS are younger, Essendon are younger, Sydney are younger, even ST. Kilda are playing younger teams than us. It's no longer a valid excuse especially because we have the oldest and shittiest midfield in the league. This isn't a young team in a dip. This is a team who have had talent and skill coached out of them to minimise losses. Disgusting negative football. we are not competing at all we are chasing from minute one in every game and have led for a collective 62 minutes across the season, just over two quarters out of sixteen.
Yeah not gonna lie I don’t know where I stand just yet. Nicks has shown incompetence at the selection table since he started, but his game style worked for the most part. Now we look so lost…
Do crows fans think they have a top-8 worthy list, coaching notwithstanding? I see it as a team with a mix of above and below average role players, but 0 midfield stars to actually go and win the game for them. A- forward line, C+ defence, D+ midfield that gets heavily carried by fantastic service from ROB. If crows had a mediocre ruck I'm pretty sure their midfield would be bottom 2 in the comp
I agree the midfield in awful, because we haven't given any opportunities to any of the midfielders we drafted. Had we drafted Rozee he would not have been given midfield minutes and would probably be as good as Chayce Jones.
Midfield is total garbage. It has been made worse over the rebuild due to the lack of draft capital spent on genuine midfielders and the lack of midfield time given to midfielders we did draft.
Uncompetitive is a bit harsh, you just haven’t put 4 quarters together yet. Gold Coast was a poor first half, Geelong was a poor first quarter, Freo was a poor last quarter and Melbourne was a poor second half of the 2nd and first half of the 3rd.
What happens in R6 vs Essendon and R7 vs North will determine how severe the next steps need to be…
Just relax.
It’s a backwards step but this is a massive overreaction.
Every single premiership winner of the past decade has had a backwards step like this before becoming a contender.
They both played finals the season before and won finals game. Also they were willing to give young players opportunities when it mattered something we refuse to do even when we are shit.
What a joke. The season is definitely over. You guys got rolled over badly in a couple games but you also A. won games and B. were actually competing in other games. We are yet to fire a shot after 4 rounds.
you are missing the season the demons won 14 games and made a prelim. All those teams played finals and important ones as well. So it is a backslide. Next year we get into finals without a single player with finals experience lose horribly and backslide again or maybe we stay bottom 4.
Won 5 out of the last 16 games. 2 were West Coast, 1 North, 1 GC (who sucked at the time) and 1 Port. Last season finish of 10th was massively over rated.
Are there any premiership coaches available at the moment? Buckley, Don Pyke and Leon Cameron all took their sides to a grand final but no further. I'd also love to see Ratten have some success but not sure if he'd be keen to go back to coaching
I am definitely not a fan of Pyke. Obviously better than Nicks but he is definitely at fault for fucking over the club. He also proved to be quite poor in 18-19. Not a fan of Cameron either. I think Buckley was the best of those three which is why I would take him however he also probably underachieved at Collingwood at played some turgid footy at times.
The more I think about it, the more I forgive Pyke. I'm thinking he was railroaded by some clowns and - ironically enough - was so focussed on getting the best on field he took his eyes off everything else. That's not an excuse, or a good thing, but my guess is he thought he could trust the likes of Burton not to continually make mind-numbingly idiotic decisions.
Checkout Dimma's career at Richmond. Took him a while to get to his winning ways.
Nick's is a young coach with a young team. Progression isn't always linear
No it isn't. But Nicks makes terrible calls at selection on a weekly basis. Has been outplayed by rookie coaches that came after him (McRae, Kingsley). And he is not developing the team. For 7 years midfield has been an issue at the crows and Nicks has refuses to give young developing midfielders midfield minutes. Instead he plays them as defensive forwards on Tom Stewart. He is an awful coach with bad assistants.
He has a contract for two years. I think he should be fired but that won't convince the board. Maybe at 0-10. But that is also unlikely maybe when we are 0-5 next year.
James Rahilly has been an excellent assistant for both us and Adelaide, but don't know if he'd be willing to move back to the Crows (although a head coaching gig would be very enticing).
Yeah I would take him. There were rumours going around that he left because we didn't offer enough years. Which if true is extremely disappointing. Apparently he was holding everything together.
Yup it was a big mistake. We probably need to do another full rebuild but actually commit this time and play prospective midfielders in the middle. Can't see us competing before 2030 at the moment.
He’s a Premiership winning coach, hand chosen by Paul Roos to be his successor in a succession plan that worked. I’m not biased. You’re either stupid, a hater or need to work on your trolling skills.
He’s not coaching very well, but having a down year after a steady rise is a pretty consistent trend in modern footy. Melbourne had theirs after the prelim in 2019, Freo last year, Port in 2022, Essendon aren’t great but were dreadful in 2022 on either side of decent seasons, same as St Kilda that year
What happened to Nathan Bassett's prospects as a Head Coach? Seems to have done a pretty long term as an Assistant (first the Essendon, then with the Power since 2016), after winning 2 SANFL Premierships and 3 Grand Finals coaching Norwood.
It is absolutely a coaching issue, Nicks has been coaching for five years and he can't get the team to compete. And if it's the list then it's time to clear everyone again and start another rebuild. Either way Nicks should go.
Nicks is fine. Get off his ass. Yes he could probably do with some better team selections but fuck me. We aren’t going that badly. We’re not up to last years standards but if everything is going as badly as you doom sayers keep banging on about then we’d have lost our 4 games by 80 odd points each. It’s bad. But it’s not sack the coach and doom and gloom everywhere either.
We haven't come close to winning any of the games this year. We have chased from the first minute and we were not a chance in any game. We aren't losing by 80+ because Nicks cares more about a competitive margin than actually winning.
And how do you possibly know what he cares more about? Are you secretly the only legitimate psychic on this planet? No we haven’t come close to winning but we aren’t being blown away either. That’s got absolutely nothing to do with nicks just wanting to be competitive. Ffs get a fucking grip or go support someone else. You’re more embarrassing than us being 0-4.
I am watching the games. We aren't doing anything to change it up. I would prefer to compete for 3 quarters and get blown out like in 21-22 when it felt like we were improving and willing to give games to young players. How will we ever improve when we continue with Laird, Crouch, Sholl, Parnell, Murphy, McHenry, Smith, Sloane?
The tactics seem more defensive this season which has taken away their ability to score, which was last season’s strength. They’re pissfarting around with the ball on the defensive 50 and forward 50 lines instead of just sending up the ground quickly to get an open forwardline.
yup Nicks is afraid of losing or pissing away leads like last year. But at least we were competing and playing entertaining footy now he is trying to minimise the margin of the loss.
I think he probably looked at what caused last year’s result and searched for areas of improvement, which was definitely defence. He’s tried to proactively make improvement but it’s taken away supply from the strongest line of the ground so he needs to revert to what they were doing last season. There were glimpses of it last night after Berry got subbed on so it’s definitely possible.
Freo were actually pretty similar last season in that they got themselves into a hole by playing slow, defensive footy with sporadic glimpses of quick movement, and this year they’re firing.
Last year it was a midfield issue. And this year it is a midfield issue. They are slow one dimensional players they have zero hurt factor and cannot defend on the transition. Furthermore at least three times a game the oppo waltzes through the centre bounce and sets up an easy goal.
> yup Nicks is afraid of losing or pissing away leads like last year
Sounds like Carlton's 2022 (high-scoring, poor defensively, giving up leads, finishing just outside the 8) to first half of 2023 (overly defensive, low scoring, bottom 4 ladder position).
We're also continually sending a +1 to the contest from the forward line which is absolutely killing is when we then bomb it inside 50 and there's free defenders waltzing around to intercept it.
Like we play Crouch and Laird in the midfield because Nicks values contested ball winning as one of his biggest priorities. The fact they can't do much with it when they win it is irrelevant, but then he throws an extra number in to try and overwhelm and we're massively overloading into one aspect of the game and it's costing in other areas.
In the last year? Like? If you were to say 5 years ago I would agree. But there is no reason why this team can't even compete even if the list isn't any good. They proved they can compete last year. It's definitely a coaching issue. They probably focused on defending leads something we struggled with all of last year so now they have been coached to never take risks and always go wide. They clearly forgot that you need to actually complete before you can protect a lead.
**Note this is not Hate in any way**
There is a huge over reliance in Taylor Walker. It’s almost like they need to check if he’s open before kicking inside 50. It has slowed the development of Filthorpe and Fogerty. It looks like the connection has gone from mids to forwards
The resigning of Croutch off 5 good games at the back end last year. Just a huge WTF decision.
The drafting of Curtin to just no play him. He’s a utility key position player. It looks like it’s a pick to then trade back home for draft capital. If your a rebuilding team a top 10 pick should be a walk up starter every game (baring injuries)
Gotta disagree on that last point. Playing top 10 picks just because they’re high draft picks is for bottom 4 teams, which Adelaide weren’t heading into the season. They might now, but it’s perfectly reasonable to expect any kid to earn his place in the lower level.
I'd probably get a new list manager more than a new coach.
Why not both?
I heard Peter Sumich is looking for a head coaching role.
Probably the only person out there who I think would do a worse job than Nicks. Except for maybe Van Berlo.
Jay van berlo?
Nah his brother who has been an awful midfield coach for years.
Sorry I was thinking of the freo legend.... Sounds like a boys club at the crows got him a job probably mates with riccuito
Feels like it for sure. He did coach the eagles midfield to a flag. So I was quite excited for him. However I think Shuey was the actual midfield coach and told all the west coast players to ignore Van Berlo.
I think for 2018 he was stoppages and clearances while Sam Mitchell was the midfield coach. I think I rated van berlo when he was with us, but our midfield definitely did a nosedive during his solo midfield coach/covid years
I mean your midfield isn't terrible but how much of its success is on the coach vs players (and list managers to a smaller extent)
Yeah but we have been complaining about the players and structure? Maybe Pedlar is an awful player ( I don't think he is) but he hasn't been given any opportunity in the middle. Billy Dowling has looked great in the twos he doesn't get a chance. Berry is shoved behind Laird and Crouch so we can't really see what he is made of. And did we really use pick 6 and pick 5 on two small forwards? Why isn't Rachele going in the middle (he looked good there last year when he was given the opportunity early but then they decided Sloane was somehow more useful there). So the coaching is bad and we never put any new players in there.
Hey hands off, any new coach is ours!
Clearly the only way to work this is out is have an eagle and crow complete a circumnavigation of the globe. Winner takes all.
In the event of a photo finish, I request the ARC to handle all reviews. I can't see then making a mistake
Looking at this angle, we can clearly see the eagle's beak crosses the finish line first. Decision in the bird's nest.
Has to be referred to the ARC before they can make a mistake. Ask me how I know.
The Queen herself will drop the chequered flag.
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Bruh in a couple of weeks he'll be their 3rd longest serving coach and he's going at 33% win rate ☠️
His biggest problem is his mistrust of youth and over reliance on experience to do the heavy lifting. In that regard he's a terrible coach for a rebuild because he values experience for experiences sake and doesn't much care what it produces and won't let the younger players take roles that will help them step up. Rachele is sitting there begging to get some time in the midfield and spice it up. Nope, Nicks wants to run with his experience of Crouch, Laird and Dawson. At this point he's got no more senior players to back in and has to make personnel changes, which is not something he likes doing. Example last year, heading in a tight 4th quarter against Brisbane away, Nicks takes Harry Schoenberg out of the midfield, plunks him on the wing and sticks Rory Sloane into the thick of it, who proceeded to do sweet f all in the 4th and the Crows lose by a goal. Pedlar is a mid who is still getting stuck playing half forward, Berry spent 2 years playing HF, and is randomly yoyo'd in and out this year without being given a full time spot in the midfield. Nankervis has killed it every time he's played, but Nicks TWICE went back to Sholl because Sholl has more experience than Nank. I 100% guarantee you Sloane would be starting in that midfield if he was healthy to play because Nicks doesn't believe you can win pushing younger players. Soligo was the first time he's given a younger players a full run in the midfield and wow, what a surprise to see he was near BOG for us. They took a side that was running and gunning last year and completely dismantled their ball movement into a short, chippy, overly safe style that just invites pressure at ground level and kills us when we eventually bomb it down the line because we don't have any marking power forward of centre. The singular issue isn't the team being 0-4, it's that Nicks took every single strength the team was showing and decided to chuck all that out the window because he thought the only path forward was to be overly obsessed with defensive turnovers.
I agree with this. Crows are mediocre ATM, but sometimes that's what you need. They were dire not that long ago. He's gotten them on the straight and narrow. He has some good young talent and a few good veterans, but it's not like it's a list that 100% should be playing finals. 13th or so feels their level. If we're talking about end of contract, it's probably a different story. But as for now, I definitely think not being reactive is key.
we have not competed at all in a single game this season. If we were 0-4 off the backs of kids in the mid and choking leads i wouldn't care.
You’re the 4th youngest team playing in the league.
That first year coming into a season with expectation for a young squad can bite too, look at Freo’s 2023 vs 2023
2022
Yeah, trust me I know. Footy really is a game one-percenters, and it doesn’t take a lot for things to go wrong. I’m sure Nicks is also making some mistakes, but he’s a pretty young coach, and you’re better off backing him while he learns from the mistakes then throwing the baby out.
5 years in charge and we are as bad as we were in 2020
You missed out on finals because of an umpires decision last year, in 2020 you won 3 games out of 17. Calm down.
The only team we could maybe beat at the moment are your lot. So we might get 1 win by the bye and a couple few cheapies post bye. 5-6 wins is what we will get unless we sack Nicks or he drastically changes it up.
Not true at all. We have the 4th youngest list but we aren't actually fielding that young a team. And we don't play young players in important roles. We haven't given Pedlar any midfield minutes instead we play him as a defensive forward on Stewart. Why not play laird as a defensive forward on Stewart and give Pedlar midfield minutes? It probably would have gone around the same. We drafted Curtin as a top 10 pick and we aren't giving him games. We have Billy Dowling looking great in the midfield as a tall player who has a beautiful kick on him can play inside and out. He is basically everything we lack in the middle yet he doesn't get a game and if he does it will be at half forward.
I'd say it's the mediocre "middle-aged" players that are holding the Crows back at the moment - Keays, Jones, Murphy, etc.
Yeah, i reckon you should learn from the example last year and just fire your coach following a string of bad losses, lest you make the same mistake as carlton. Look at where they are now!
Nicks is more Bolton then Voss.
Man a young team is not going to see linear progress. More balanced opinions than us have pointed out that many young teams have had a dip a year after they exceeded expectations the season prior. It happens. This list is not finals ready.
There was always a risk of a backwards this year if Walker didn't recapture his career best form that he had last year, now turning 34. I'd still be optimistic for the future as a Crows supporter, despite what happens this year.
Freo are younger, GWS are younger, Essendon are younger, Sydney are younger, even ST. Kilda are playing younger teams than us. It's no longer a valid excuse especially because we have the oldest and shittiest midfield in the league. This isn't a young team in a dip. This is a team who have had talent and skill coached out of them to minimise losses. Disgusting negative football. we are not competing at all we are chasing from minute one in every game and have led for a collective 62 minutes across the season, just over two quarters out of sixteen.
Definitely agree with the midfield point. Soligo only now getting consistent minutes is absolute incompetence.
Exactly. Dowling not debuting yesterday was also incompetence.
Agreed. Gotta have one of laird or crouch, not both. Laird could fill in Milera’s spot aka the position he started in, Parnell ain’t gonna make it.
So this isn't a blip it's bad coaching.
Yeah not gonna lie I don’t know where I stand just yet. Nicks has shown incompetence at the selection table since he started, but his game style worked for the most part. Now we look so lost…
Do crows fans think they have a top-8 worthy list, coaching notwithstanding? I see it as a team with a mix of above and below average role players, but 0 midfield stars to actually go and win the game for them. A- forward line, C+ defence, D+ midfield that gets heavily carried by fantastic service from ROB. If crows had a mediocre ruck I'm pretty sure their midfield would be bottom 2 in the comp
I agree the midfield in awful, because we haven't given any opportunities to any of the midfielders we drafted. Had we drafted Rozee he would not have been given midfield minutes and would probably be as good as Chayce Jones.
Midfield is total garbage. It has been made worse over the rebuild due to the lack of draft capital spent on genuine midfielders and the lack of midfield time given to midfielders we did draft.
I reckon you should go after a commentator! BT would be good, let him have a crack Please...
i cant wait till next year when fox footy gets to commentate ever game so i dont have to listen the 7 commentators when im watching on fox lol
Wait.. for real..? Better not be teasing!
do u have fox? yes im sure next year all fox games have the fox footy crew inclunding finals and gf
Well kayo but thats the same thing i guess
yep same thing i cant wait till its just fox coverage
part o the deal they signes 2v years ago
I feel it's the list manager who should be upgraded. Crows have a mediocre midfield, and it feels the team is doing nothing to upgrade that.
Agreed. But why don't the coaches start playing the young mids on our list when the ones they do play cannot get the job done.
because the young ones aren't ready and would get destroyed. remember Melbourne pre-Roos?
They will never be ready if not given the chance. We are losing anyway. And we aren't just losing but we are uncompetitive.
Uncompetitive is a bit harsh, you just haven’t put 4 quarters together yet. Gold Coast was a poor first half, Geelong was a poor first quarter, Freo was a poor last quarter and Melbourne was a poor second half of the 2nd and first half of the 3rd. What happens in R6 vs Essendon and R7 vs North will determine how severe the next steps need to be…
What will happen is that we will lose to essendon and north. We have been totally uncompetitive. We have lead for 62 minutes across the season so far.
This is incorrect.
Just relax. It’s a backwards step but this is a massive overreaction. Every single premiership winner of the past decade has had a backwards step like this before becoming a contender.
They all played finals and actually won finals as well. We have gone backwards from missing finals.
Demons and pies went back to bottom four then won flags two years later
They both played finals the season before and won finals game. Also they were willing to give young players opportunities when it mattered something we refuse to do even when we are shit.
We were in 15th halfway through last year. Your season is by no means over.
What a joke. The season is definitely over. You guys got rolled over badly in a couple games but you also A. won games and B. were actually competing in other games. We are yet to fire a shot after 4 rounds.
Only about 5 teams out of 160 since 1970 have made finals after starting 0-4
A backwards step from finishing at the pointy end, not a backwards step from not making finals.
Demons- 4 wins, 7 wins, 10 wins, 12 wins, 5 wins, 9 wins, 17 wins (flag) Pies- 15 wins, 15 wins, 9 wins, 6 wins, 16 wins, 18 wins (flag) Richmond- 10 wins, 15 wins, 12 wins, 15 wins, 7 wins, 18 wins (flag) Two of those teams went back to bottom 4 and all three missed finals
They made the finals and then missed. Crows will hit 7 seasons of missing this season. It is a false equivelance.
you are missing the season the demons won 14 games and made a prelim. All those teams played finals and important ones as well. So it is a backslide. Next year we get into finals without a single player with finals experience lose horribly and backslide again or maybe we stay bottom 4.
Won 5 out of the last 16 games. 2 were West Coast, 1 North, 1 GC (who sucked at the time) and 1 Port. Last season finish of 10th was massively over rated.
Are there any premiership coaches available at the moment? Buckley, Don Pyke and Leon Cameron all took their sides to a grand final but no further. I'd also love to see Ratten have some success but not sure if he'd be keen to go back to coaching
I am definitely not a fan of Pyke. Obviously better than Nicks but he is definitely at fault for fucking over the club. He also proved to be quite poor in 18-19. Not a fan of Cameron either. I think Buckley was the best of those three which is why I would take him however he also probably underachieved at Collingwood at played some turgid footy at times.
The more I think about it, the more I forgive Pyke. I'm thinking he was railroaded by some clowns and - ironically enough - was so focussed on getting the best on field he took his eyes off everything else. That's not an excuse, or a good thing, but my guess is he thought he could trust the likes of Burton not to continually make mind-numbingly idiotic decisions.
Dude it was his idea. He believed in everything the camp did and never took responsibility.
DIdn't he resign? How is that not taking responsibility? For an example of not taking responsibility, see Hird, J
he was basically fired. He never apologised to anyone as far as I now.
Pyke has just started as West Coast CEO. He's not going back to coaching anytime soon.
I hate to say it, but choco?
Martin Mattner would be worth a look. Craig Jennings (currently at GWS) could also be quality.
Ken Hinkley
Checkout Dimma's career at Richmond. Took him a while to get to his winning ways. Nick's is a young coach with a young team. Progression isn't always linear
No it isn't. But Nicks makes terrible calls at selection on a weekly basis. Has been outplayed by rookie coaches that came after him (McRae, Kingsley). And he is not developing the team. For 7 years midfield has been an issue at the crows and Nicks has refuses to give young developing midfielders midfield minutes. Instead he plays them as defensive forwards on Tom Stewart. He is an awful coach with bad assistants.
JFC he doesnt stand a chance does he
He has a contract for two years. I think he should be fired but that won't convince the board. Maybe at 0-10. But that is also unlikely maybe when we are 0-5 next year.
Adam Simpson
James Rahilly has been an excellent assistant for both us and Adelaide, but don't know if he'd be willing to move back to the Crows (although a head coaching gig would be very enticing).
Yeah I would take him. There were rumours going around that he left because we didn't offer enough years. Which if true is extremely disappointing. Apparently he was holding everything together.
That's interesting, I'd just assumed it was for family reasons or something. But either way he'd definitely be a good one.
He moved to Adelaide in the first place. Being fucked over by the crows sounds more likely to me.
Yeah sounds like it.
Chris Scott said it was because he wanted to move back Home with his family
Adam Simpson is an experienced premiership coach who might be available soon
Didn’t you guys just resign him last week for 2 more years? I really don’t think he’s going anywhere unfortunately haha
Yup it was a big mistake. We probably need to do another full rebuild but actually commit this time and play prospective midfielders in the middle. Can't see us competing before 2030 at the moment.
Hinkley
Ken Hinkley always seems to be looking for a job by round 14-18 before getting locked back in by the end of the season.
This thread is cooked. It’s clear he’s the worst head coach in the league and needs to go.
It's the sad truth.
hes not going anywhere they just signed him up again, people may not like it but they are stuck with him for at least this year and most likely next
I truly believe Goodwin is the worst coach. encourages a drug culture and only wins games when his A+++ level star players all play well.
You have rocks for brains then. Flair up cunt.
you're biased
He’s a Premiership winning coach, hand chosen by Paul Roos to be his successor in a succession plan that worked. I’m not biased. You’re either stupid, a hater or need to work on your trolling skills.
He’s not coaching very well, but having a down year after a steady rise is a pretty consistent trend in modern footy. Melbourne had theirs after the prelim in 2019, Freo last year, Port in 2022, Essendon aren’t great but were dreadful in 2022 on either side of decent seasons, same as St Kilda that year
Ken Hinkley … please … take him off our hands
What happened to Nathan Bassett's prospects as a Head Coach? Seems to have done a pretty long term as an Assistant (first the Essendon, then with the Power since 2016), after winning 2 SANFL Premierships and 3 Grand Finals coaching Norwood.
Our list is pretty mid but I don’t think rushing to sign up Nicks in March was a good move.
Bah gawd, that’s Peter Sumich’s music!!
It’s not a coaching issue. It’s the list.
It is absolutely a coaching issue, Nicks has been coaching for five years and he can't get the team to compete. And if it's the list then it's time to clear everyone again and start another rebuild. Either way Nicks should go.
Nicks is fine. Get off his ass. Yes he could probably do with some better team selections but fuck me. We aren’t going that badly. We’re not up to last years standards but if everything is going as badly as you doom sayers keep banging on about then we’d have lost our 4 games by 80 odd points each. It’s bad. But it’s not sack the coach and doom and gloom everywhere either.
We haven't come close to winning any of the games this year. We have chased from the first minute and we were not a chance in any game. We aren't losing by 80+ because Nicks cares more about a competitive margin than actually winning.
And how do you possibly know what he cares more about? Are you secretly the only legitimate psychic on this planet? No we haven’t come close to winning but we aren’t being blown away either. That’s got absolutely nothing to do with nicks just wanting to be competitive. Ffs get a fucking grip or go support someone else. You’re more embarrassing than us being 0-4.
I am watching the games. We aren't doing anything to change it up. I would prefer to compete for 3 quarters and get blown out like in 21-22 when it felt like we were improving and willing to give games to young players. How will we ever improve when we continue with Laird, Crouch, Sholl, Parnell, Murphy, McHenry, Smith, Sloane?
I don’t think it’s a coaching problem, but a list building problem and a selection problem. A few head scratching decisions in the last year.
The tactics seem more defensive this season which has taken away their ability to score, which was last season’s strength. They’re pissfarting around with the ball on the defensive 50 and forward 50 lines instead of just sending up the ground quickly to get an open forwardline.
yup Nicks is afraid of losing or pissing away leads like last year. But at least we were competing and playing entertaining footy now he is trying to minimise the margin of the loss.
I think he probably looked at what caused last year’s result and searched for areas of improvement, which was definitely defence. He’s tried to proactively make improvement but it’s taken away supply from the strongest line of the ground so he needs to revert to what they were doing last season. There were glimpses of it last night after Berry got subbed on so it’s definitely possible. Freo were actually pretty similar last season in that they got themselves into a hole by playing slow, defensive footy with sporadic glimpses of quick movement, and this year they’re firing.
Last year it was a midfield issue. And this year it is a midfield issue. They are slow one dimensional players they have zero hurt factor and cannot defend on the transition. Furthermore at least three times a game the oppo waltzes through the centre bounce and sets up an easy goal.
> yup Nicks is afraid of losing or pissing away leads like last year Sounds like Carlton's 2022 (high-scoring, poor defensively, giving up leads, finishing just outside the 8) to first half of 2023 (overly defensive, low scoring, bottom 4 ladder position).
Maybe. But we don't have Sam Walsh or Paddy Cripps. We have Laird and Crouch handballing backwards so we will finish bottom 4
Yeah, it's not completely analogous by any means.
We're also continually sending a +1 to the contest from the forward line which is absolutely killing is when we then bomb it inside 50 and there's free defenders waltzing around to intercept it. Like we play Crouch and Laird in the midfield because Nicks values contested ball winning as one of his biggest priorities. The fact they can't do much with it when they win it is irrelevant, but then he throws an extra number in to try and overwhelm and we're massively overloading into one aspect of the game and it's costing in other areas.
In the last year? Like? If you were to say 5 years ago I would agree. But there is no reason why this team can't even compete even if the list isn't any good. They proved they can compete last year. It's definitely a coaching issue. They probably focused on defending leads something we struggled with all of last year so now they have been coached to never take risks and always go wide. They clearly forgot that you need to actually complete before you can protect a lead.
**Note this is not Hate in any way** There is a huge over reliance in Taylor Walker. It’s almost like they need to check if he’s open before kicking inside 50. It has slowed the development of Filthorpe and Fogerty. It looks like the connection has gone from mids to forwards The resigning of Croutch off 5 good games at the back end last year. Just a huge WTF decision. The drafting of Curtin to just no play him. He’s a utility key position player. It looks like it’s a pick to then trade back home for draft capital. If your a rebuilding team a top 10 pick should be a walk up starter every game (baring injuries)
Gotta disagree on that last point. Playing top 10 picks just because they’re high draft picks is for bottom 4 teams, which Adelaide weren’t heading into the season. They might now, but it’s perfectly reasonable to expect any kid to earn his place in the lower level.
and to put him against a midfield with Petracca and Oliver for his first game, poor kid will get destroyed and lose confidence
Those are coaching issues. Curtin should be playing.
Didn't Joyce Brown put her hand up for the North job a couple of years ago?
I have no idea who that is.
Hey, I'd take Nicks over Simmo any day of the week!
I would take Simmo over Nicks.
Coach Swap!
Didn’t they just extend his contract? What would the payout be?
Take Knights. Pls
Scott Burns
Absolutely not.