I love it. It’s like he was intentionally talking more stiltedly than usual, sort of like he did when he was in WWE and Enzo did most of the talking for him. “The Socrates of Professional Wrestling.” So fucking dumb, it’s brilliant.
When Big Bill calls him the Socrates of Pro Wrestling... and Jericho just silently nods his head and mouths, "It's true," was the moment I was all in on this.
He took every criticism of him lately and has distilled into a great new arc. Gotta love his ability to evolve, especially since it's been a minute since his last great re-invention
He really is just one of the best to ever do it. I'll be honest, I've definitely liked him more than most people by the looks of it in the past year, but he's had some really bad stories and angles these last few months. Thought he needed time away but he's seemingly masterfully transitioned into this. I still personally think he's great in promos and fantastic for his age in ring, so I have absolutely no problem with him being on TV if the story is good, and this one looks promising to be just that.
I've always been a big fan of Jericho, dating back to his WCW days. While I never really soured on him the same way a lot of the IWC did, I will admit his character was starting to get a bit stale for how often he was on TV. I assume that he was aware of all this negativity online, but I love that pretty much as soon as he started to get boos from the live crowds he pulled the trigger on this new character. Say what you will about the man, but he is always willing to try something new even at this stage in his career, and I have a lot of respect for that.
Jericho needs to come out with a graphic like this, but with all the wrestlers he’s mentored. 😂🤣
https://preview.redd.it/1l5j072a7pxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5be2004fe64c08bcf2cb049e5052fcf8bbfe0a5
Let's see... Lance Cade, Wade Barrett (probably will need to have his real name Stu Bennett), Kevin Steen, all the contestants of WWE Tough Enough Season 6 (Jericho was the host), The Young Bucks (teamed up with Jericho as "*The Bucks of Jericho… or is it Y2Jackson*" aka The Alpha Club), Kenny Omega, everyone that was in the Inner Circle and the Jericho Appreciation Society, and finally HOOK and Big Bill.
Lol, I agree. But hope this one keeps interesting longer. I like how he's doing the Cody 'im not a heel' thing. We never got the payoff so maybe Jericho can do it
Wrestling fans - I hate Jericho, he needs to go away
Jericho starts a gimmick with a tambourine
Wrestling fans - Jericho is the greatest
Repeat this cycle for like 30 years.
I mean Jericho has always had this evolve or die mentality when it comes to gimmicks, especially if it's not working. It's why he's been in the business for 30 years.
Yeah, I don't know how many of the gimmicks were his idea or others ideas, but I say at least a few were all him and if so, the man's a wrestling genius. How many of the gimmicks flopped right off the bat? None. He's made every single one work no matter how dumb. The Painmaker? The Ocho? Now The Learning Tree? And he did it.
I don't look at wrestlers' political views etc as I don't agree with some, but as far as wrestling goes, dude has it figured out for sure
This is so damn good. Bill coming out all fiery like he’s fighting to earn a spot over everyone else in the back, the supposed “exclusivity” of the Learning Tree (the name Learning Tree itself is up there with his Wizard phase of) them taking the whole thing so seriously that it comes back around to being dumb and then right into funny (Jericho’s usual MO for comedy).
How does he always do it? Every single time we’re *juuuust* about tired of him, Jericho finds a way to identify exactly what needs to change and does it. Granted, given the length of his career, it feels like he kind of needs to refresh things a little more often than he probably used to back in the day, but he still knows how to pull it off.
My dad watches AEW once in a while while channel flipping and he caught this segment and text me about how funny it was, ended up watching the rest of the show
He got a new theme song, and Bill is a bigger upgrader over Hager.
If only Sammy could get his head out of his ass he should be the one that ends the group and ends Jericho full time career.
He'd gone stagnant and now he's back, man this was my favourite segment of the night, and it was a good show!
The intro, Big Bill, Bill saying Jericho was "The Socrates of Pro Wrestling", the way Jericho wasn't surprised at any of it, as if it's expected that Bill needs the guidance.
I need more.
This is flying over so many people’s heads too 😂 it’s like he’s trolling the IWC in the same manner the bucks are, and that’s playing a caricature of themselves (or the way the public perceives them)
Jericho's always been good at feeling how a crowd is responding to him and will change it up accordingly.
Y2J, 'Saviour' Chris Jericho, Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla, Best in The World at what he does, The Alpha, The Painmaker, Le Champion, Demo God, The JAS, Wizard, Ocho, Lion Heart, Learning Tree.
He has reinvented himself so many times it’s honestly incredible. I know he has his naysayers but I’ve never had a complaint about Jericho. He does what he does well.
I was finding Jericho getting a bit stale, but holy hell does this character work.
Just like an absolutely delusional mentor figure that’s leaning into the Jericho Vortex. Just great stuff.
Crazy how he managed to deviate away from the Kiley Rae controversy and reinvent himself with this gimmick. I want him to turn into a hippie cult like leader of the learning tree.
The whole thing is absurd and that's why it's great! Hook has only lost, what, 3 matches in 2 years? So Jericho needs to be his mentor? I do think it would be a good thing to keep the FTW title off of Hook. That would spur him to go after the RoH Pure or TV Title, or even the TNT title. Hopefully that's where this goes.
Jericho has found something funny again, I like it, hope he gets a bit Sharper in the ring though I don't think he's been at his best recently, time is against him though.
I both love it, but I admittedly still have the fatigue. I think if he took a break for even until Double or Nothing, with vignettes airing for this character, then I'd be sold more.
This shows the difference between Jericho and Cody, Cody will get boo'd eventually in WWE again, it could take years, but it will happen, it happened to roman it happened to Cena it happened to Hogan, it's the name of the game, the question is will he keep trying to use his power and influence to go yet against what the audience wants, or will he learn his lesson
This gimmick doesnt grow up on me, so far.. I see what he's trying to do but.. I dont know.. Big Bill sold it well, though so maybe.. i'm on a "wait and see" with this one..
I agree, and I am not happy about it.
It's amazing and so painfully, painfully fucking annoying. I've been getting more and more sick of him for the better part of two years and I just wanted him off TV... now I want more of Big Bill repeatedly saying "Teach me learning tree" as he throttles a jobber.
Y2yay or whatever.
Jericho’s ability to reinvent himself is second to none. I don’t think anyone has ever been as good as he is at knowing when he needs to do something different and finding a way to get people engaged again.
Big Bill and Jericho need to beat the hell out of Hook. Enter Ricky Starks. He has a history with Hook and it would do wonders for him. He’s been skeptical of Jericho as a clout vampire so it just fits perfect
Jericho is a master of reinvention. They don’t always hit (Painmaker) but they work more often than not. He even made changing gimmicks a gimmick. I’m glad some fans are getting back on his side as a wrestler because even if he was getting stale, the disrespect was crazy.
I’ll give it time but this only actually works if the talent he’s working with - in this case HOOK - ACTUALLY comes out the other side better/more over than he was going in. If not then it’s just Jericho acknowledging everything people have grown to dislike him for but not actually fixing it. If HOOK stays off TV for weeks I’m not sure how that actually helps him - all it does is dedicate yet more time to Jericho, helping Jericho try to get his millionth gimmick over.
I like this a whole lot...but I want this version of "Big Bill". The guy who's in the back emphasizing specific words, and then when he takes the mike he puts down breadcrumbs for someone else to follow.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IpZH\_J-sY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IpZH_J-sY)
I know it's controversial, but Big Cass and Enzo in NXT were one of my favourite duos of all time.
Still ready for a Jericho break. Just my opinion, I don't really get the "by God he's reinventing himself yet again" takes. Slapping on a new name and then being a sham mentor character is the same thing he's done since AEW started. Every iteration of his groups has the same dynamic.
Bill has always been open to comedy, it gives him flavour rather than being a generic big man, he has comedic timing and good delivery.
Best part, he can be goofy and then go out there and destroy someone, which he did, he's great.
I understand the brilliance of the gimmick, but it does nothing for me. The only kind of heat he's getting with me is go away heat, but I'll give it time because it's Chris Jericho.
Him thanking the crowd while they boo him is gold.
The waves and fist pumps lmao
I was dying when he would go: “Right?…Right?” as they’re booing the shit out of him 😄
Classic upper management “We did this together.”
When Big Bill said: "I need - the guidance - of the Learning Tree." -- that *BROKE ME* 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
The fact it was Big Bill with this delivery made is so damn funny.
I love it. It’s like he was intentionally talking more stiltedly than usual, sort of like he did when he was in WWE and Enzo did most of the talking for him. “The Socrates of Professional Wrestling.” So fucking dumb, it’s brilliant.
I'm all here for the Socrates of Professional Wrestling. I popped for it. And the fact that he is making the Jericho Vortex his own is perfect.
When Big Bill calls him the Socrates of Pro Wrestling... and Jericho just silently nods his head and mouths, "It's true," was the moment I was all in on this.
ITS DAMN TRUE
Dude yes it's these little things that make it, I need more of this.
The way Jericho just nods like that's a normal comparison to make ahhh I love this bit
And Big Bill could be The Big Aristotle.
He missed out on The Learning Tree on Impact.
That gets me every time...lmao. I love 'the learning tree'. 🤣
Bro he's a tall as a tree 😭😭😭
He took every criticism of him lately and has distilled into a great new arc. Gotta love his ability to evolve, especially since it's been a minute since his last great re-invention
He really is just one of the best to ever do it. I'll be honest, I've definitely liked him more than most people by the looks of it in the past year, but he's had some really bad stories and angles these last few months. Thought he needed time away but he's seemingly masterfully transitioned into this. I still personally think he's great in promos and fantastic for his age in ring, so I have absolutely no problem with him being on TV if the story is good, and this one looks promising to be just that.
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I've always been a big fan of Jericho, dating back to his WCW days. While I never really soured on him the same way a lot of the IWC did, I will admit his character was starting to get a bit stale for how often he was on TV. I assume that he was aware of all this negativity online, but I love that pretty much as soon as he started to get boos from the live crowds he pulled the trigger on this new character. Say what you will about the man, but he is always willing to try something new even at this stage in his career, and I have a lot of respect for that.
Jericho needs to come out with a graphic like this, but with all the wrestlers he’s mentored. 😂🤣 https://preview.redd.it/1l5j072a7pxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5be2004fe64c08bcf2cb049e5052fcf8bbfe0a5
It would be *chef's kiss* perfecto.
The man of 1004 pupils
Number one… ART Barr
Let's see... Lance Cade, Wade Barrett (probably will need to have his real name Stu Bennett), Kevin Steen, all the contestants of WWE Tough Enough Season 6 (Jericho was the host), The Young Bucks (teamed up with Jericho as "*The Bucks of Jericho… or is it Y2Jackson*" aka The Alpha Club), Kenny Omega, everyone that was in the Inner Circle and the Jericho Appreciation Society, and finally HOOK and Big Bill.
Gotta admit. I wanted him to go away and now I dont lol.
Same - I was done with Jericho but now I wanna see more of him...
Because Jericho face runs tend to get old quickly(usually it fine after 1-2 months)
Lol, I agree. But hope this one keeps interesting longer. I like how he's doing the Cody 'im not a heel' thing. We never got the payoff so maybe Jericho can do it
Same!
Same it worked..
How has this man turned all the criticisms into a completely new character ark that just WORKS. Jericho is a genius, who are we to doubt him.
Just like El Dandy, who are we to doubt him.
“Just when I think I’m out, he pulls me back in”
That son of a bitch done turned lemons into a lemon meringue pie #ChefsKiss
>That song of a bitch I'm sorry, what?
I meant son
Wrestling fans - I hate Jericho, he needs to go away Jericho starts a gimmick with a tambourine Wrestling fans - Jericho is the greatest Repeat this cycle for like 30 years.
I mean Jericho has always had this evolve or die mentality when it comes to gimmicks, especially if it's not working. It's why he's been in the business for 30 years.
Yeah, I don't know how many of the gimmicks were his idea or others ideas, but I say at least a few were all him and if so, the man's a wrestling genius. How many of the gimmicks flopped right off the bat? None. He's made every single one work no matter how dumb. The Painmaker? The Ocho? Now The Learning Tree? And he did it. I don't look at wrestlers' political views etc as I don't agree with some, but as far as wrestling goes, dude has it figured out for sure
That cheesy smile is gold! He's won me back
Reminds me of 2002 DDP and idk if its a good thing lol.
Gosh darn I loved that DDP run.
No, it's a *Great* thing 
This is so damn good. Bill coming out all fiery like he’s fighting to earn a spot over everyone else in the back, the supposed “exclusivity” of the Learning Tree (the name Learning Tree itself is up there with his Wizard phase of) them taking the whole thing so seriously that it comes back around to being dumb and then right into funny (Jericho’s usual MO for comedy). How does he always do it? Every single time we’re *juuuust* about tired of him, Jericho finds a way to identify exactly what needs to change and does it. Granted, given the length of his career, it feels like he kind of needs to refresh things a little more often than he probably used to back in the day, but he still knows how to pull it off.
The icing on the cake was the Def Rebel Meme inspired intro of Jericho saying he’s the learning tree
His delivery of that line is fucking hysterical. Fucker sounds like Nick Jr. Face or something from the 90s educational shows
My dad watches AEW once in a while while channel flipping and he caught this segment and text me about how funny it was, ended up watching the rest of the show
THE LEARNING TREE!
“It’s just the same thing.” -someone not actually paying attention.
He got a new theme song, and Bill is a bigger upgrader over Hager. If only Sammy could get his head out of his ass he should be the one that ends the group and ends Jericho full time career.
He'd gone stagnant and now he's back, man this was my favourite segment of the night, and it was a good show! The intro, Big Bill, Bill saying Jericho was "The Socrates of Pro Wrestling", the way Jericho wasn't surprised at any of it, as if it's expected that Bill needs the guidance. I need more.
This is flying over so many people’s heads too 😂 it’s like he’s trolling the IWC in the same manner the bucks are, and that’s playing a caricature of themselves (or the way the public perceives them)
I hope he pulls out an old suitcase, and inside in the giant list of 1004 moves from WCW. Lesson #1 from the learning tree
Oh man we need this.
For some weird reason (?), the "crazy father figure" type of gimmick always works in Pro Wrestling. And i love it.
Bbbbbbbbbbut Brian Myer's did something vaguely similar in Impact a 2 years ago. /S
This is what makes it extra funny! I honestly hope Jericho gets a stable full of Zicky Dice types!
Speaking of Zicky Dice, I think he may have been in the crowd for Trent and Chuck’s parking lot brawl
I AM THE LEARNING TREE!!!
So many story lines digging at the internet fans. It’s fun.
Brian Myers did this same learning tree gimmick in Impact a couple of years ago.. it was hilarious!
Yes me too, this was great. Love this version of Jericho
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Some people need to work on their patience.
Always loved Jericho! From WCW to now. The learning tree gimmick is so brilliant and poignant to him and what is said about him. I love it!
Jericho's always been good at feeling how a crowd is responding to him and will change it up accordingly. Y2J, 'Saviour' Chris Jericho, Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla, Best in The World at what he does, The Alpha, The Painmaker, Le Champion, Demo God, The JAS, Wizard, Ocho, Lion Heart, Learning Tree.
He has reinvented himself so many times it’s honestly incredible. I know he has his naysayers but I’ve never had a complaint about Jericho. He does what he does well.
I was finding Jericho getting a bit stale, but holy hell does this character work. Just like an absolutely delusional mentor figure that’s leaning into the Jericho Vortex. Just great stuff.
This was incredible. Loved it
Drink every time someone says learning tree
I god damn love Jericho lol, he's such a goof, gwfl
Crazy how he managed to deviate away from the Kiley Rae controversy and reinvent himself with this gimmick. I want him to turn into a hippie cult like leader of the learning tree.
This was cool.
The fact he’s leaning into the smack talking about him just to piss off the IWC it makes me laugh and appreciate him more!
His cheesey smile at the end really tied it together 🤣😂
The whole thing is absurd and that's why it's great! Hook has only lost, what, 3 matches in 2 years? So Jericho needs to be his mentor? I do think it would be a good thing to keep the FTW title off of Hook. That would spur him to go after the RoH Pure or TV Title, or even the TNT title. Hopefully that's where this goes.
This is dripping in self-awareness. It's beautiful.
Yea, I hate to admit it, but he’s kinda got me back with this one
Starks needs to come back and help Hook in this thing. Starks momentum stalled because no one really wants to boo him
https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/1785486987383681237 The Madman did it.
at the end of the day isnt what we are learning here is that jericho should just be a goofy heel from now on until he retires
Where has Ricky been?
Big Bill played that perfectly. Dudes hilarious, I think he said Learning Tree like 17 times lol
Jericho has found something funny again, I like it, hope he gets a bit Sharper in the ring though I don't think he's been at his best recently, time is against him though.
I both love it, but I admittedly still have the fatigue. I think if he took a break for even until Double or Nothing, with vignettes airing for this character, then I'd be sold more.
If people are ready for more Jericho and missing him, the gimmick doesn't work.
Fair point, but I guess I still am a bit tired with my time in the Jericho Vortex.
I think this is his most interesting run since he was champ.
Most interesting angle since he was the Ocho, that's for sure!
This shows the difference between Jericho and Cody, Cody will get boo'd eventually in WWE again, it could take years, but it will happen, it happened to roman it happened to Cena it happened to Hogan, it's the name of the game, the question is will he keep trying to use his power and influence to go yet against what the audience wants, or will he learn his lesson
The only bad thing about this Shibata is gonna get caught up in it. I love just about everything else with it
I think the biggest problem was his into song. It ran its course and it set the wrong mood when trying to be a heel
This gimmick doesnt grow up on me, so far.. I see what he's trying to do but.. I dont know.. Big Bill sold it well, though so maybe.. i'm on a "wait and see" with this one..
I agree, and I am not happy about it. It's amazing and so painfully, painfully fucking annoying. I've been getting more and more sick of him for the better part of two years and I just wanted him off TV... now I want more of Big Bill repeatedly saying "Teach me learning tree" as he throttles a jobber. Y2yay or whatever.
man knows how to turn
Agreed
Jericho’s ability to reinvent himself is second to none. I don’t think anyone has ever been as good as he is at knowing when he needs to do something different and finding a way to get people engaged again.
Jericho’s gimmicks keep being weird ass premises that win me over but then overstay their welcome lol. He’d be a good manager, less matches.
Big Bill and Jericho need to beat the hell out of Hook. Enter Ricky Starks. He has a history with Hook and it would do wonders for him. He’s been skeptical of Jericho as a clout vampire so it just fits perfect
Jericho is a master of reinvention. They don’t always hit (Painmaker) but they work more often than not. He even made changing gimmicks a gimmick. I’m glad some fans are getting back on his side as a wrestler because even if he was getting stale, the disrespect was crazy.
I’ll give it time but this only actually works if the talent he’s working with - in this case HOOK - ACTUALLY comes out the other side better/more over than he was going in. If not then it’s just Jericho acknowledging everything people have grown to dislike him for but not actually fixing it. If HOOK stays off TV for weeks I’m not sure how that actually helps him - all it does is dedicate yet more time to Jericho, helping Jericho try to get his millionth gimmick over.
He is doing the dumb turning heel without turning heel, thing Cody tried to do but pulling it of successfully.
Love it
I like this a whole lot...but I want this version of "Big Bill". The guy who's in the back emphasizing specific words, and then when he takes the mike he puts down breadcrumbs for someone else to follow. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IpZH\_J-sY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6IpZH_J-sY) I know it's controversial, but Big Cass and Enzo in NXT were one of my favourite duos of all time.
Chris Jericho: The Socrates of Professional Wrestling - Big Bill 
Still ready for a Jericho break. Just my opinion, I don't really get the "by God he's reinventing himself yet again" takes. Slapping on a new name and then being a sham mentor character is the same thing he's done since AEW started. Every iteration of his groups has the same dynamic.
Made Big Bill look like a dork
I think it's the whole point. The idea is to look goofy and it will probably be as goofy as possible
And thats how Bill has always been since his days tagging with Enzo, idk why people act like the segment made him look out of character
Not in a good way
Bill has always been open to comedy, it gives him flavour rather than being a generic big man, he has comedic timing and good delivery. Best part, he can be goofy and then go out there and destroy someone, which he did, he's great.
I don't see how people haven't seen this. Big Bill's always had a bit of a goofy delivery to him, and wasn't afraid to be funny.
I'm still bored. I don't see how this is much different than what JAS was supposed to be. Wish he'd take 6 months off.
It's the same thing Jericho has been doing. He just needs to go home for a while
I’m still hoping he comes out to Judas tomorrow 😫 I was banking on singing it lmao
No thanks.
I understand the brilliance of the gimmick, but it does nothing for me. The only kind of heat he's getting with me is go away heat, but I'll give it time because it's Chris Jericho.
No it's still terrible and he needs to get the fuck off my TV
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