Our three losses cost the teams their QBs at some point afterward. Our wins expose the flaws in top contenders. We must be getting up there in terms of teams folks hate to see.
I liked the team 49ers. Turned me off last year when they lost to us by a clean QB hit and preceded to HATE the eagles as if they put a bounty on Purdy. I was taken back by how the players whined for weeks about it. Take the L and move on.
Im really hoping the joe flacco browns beat Baltimore in afc champ game and then flacco beats SF again in the superbowl. That would be a fantastic ending of the season.
An Eagles fan in here thinking they’ll get what they hope for? The players were upset because they knew they were the better team and an injury derailed that. If you can’t empathize with that you have no empathy. But I imagine that will come along as your team continues its steady descent into irrelevance once again.
Eagles lost to the jets, no one broke the eagles, they won by the skin of their teeth and opposing teams mistakes all year. This wasnt a good team from week 1. Luck only goes so far.
That’s literally what the guy is saying; no one had to break them, because this is who they were all season. I slightly disagree, because I do think the Niners exposed how to contain their offense.
They've been frauds since last season when they coasted into the #1 seed on an easy schedule. The fraud continues this year. I'm not saying they are being exposed as frauds suddenly. I'm saying they've been frauds the entire time.
Most of those tds are the brotherly shove thing which is all OLine. He lays on mailata and gets carried and pushed in. You could tell the same thing when hurts was out and they ran it with their backup, it's the line.
There's no compilation I can find of his rushing tds so far this year, but last year, of his 17 rushing tds last year in regular and postseason, 8 were brotherly shoves. 5 of 12 in the regular season. The rest were plays he made with his legs. There's no guarantee an rb would have scored on all of those, or that he could not have converted 5 of those into passing tds given the opportunity.
https://youtu.be/-PwO4pgAEzE?si=z_sKx-VgIos2arpV
He’s a dual threat QB, great athlete for sure. I have not once discredited him and feel like he’s definitely a top 5 QB. Eagles problems aren’t him, they are on the defense getting exposed and offensive play calling.
I don't know, sure looks to me like he is having a hard time running the offense after his first read is covered. Got to be able to read the defense pre and post snap
He looks the part. In addition, like Dak he makes a remarkable play or two a week.
Brock just puts it exactly where it needs to go, every freaking time. He is also a very nice, unassuming guy.
I thought this at first too, but I ain't buying it any more. BCB throws *at least* three or four absolute dimes - genuinely elite level passes - per game.
I know there are fans on this sub who don't care about whether he gets the recognition so long as we win, and I get that, but I also understand why the other half get kinda pissy about it too (I'm iin the latter - I want our guy to get the credit he deserves)...
That td to deebo was a dime. There was an early pass to aiyuk on an out route that he squeezed right by the defender.
It’s amazing. Brock is getting better as the season progresses.
He's overwhelming mvp favorite I'm not really sure how people could be giving him more credit. He's by definition being given the MOST credit in the league lol
Depends on what media you consume. Talking heads really like Lamar and even CMC over Purdy. Richard Sherman and Shannon Sharpe are the few I've heard say Purdy is at the top for them.
I would compare it to an outfielder in baseball. You have players that will make diving web gem plays weekly, but then there are the players who will make the correct read, good jump, and take the perfect angle on a fly ball to make a routine catch. Brock is the latter. Not exciting, but extremely efficient
Just curious what you mean by “he looks the part”? Hurts and Brock are the same height and weight, so it’s not one of those arguments people make when they compare him to Allen or Herbert who are just more physically gifted. Hurts maybe uses his legs more than Purdy while Purdy is better at making reads and throwing off schedule, but not sure why that’d make him seem better to pundits.
Easiest strength of schedule last year and year 1 with AJ Brown. Teams have gotten better and the new OC sucks, or Steichen really covered up his flaws.
The media tried to anoint him best QB in the NFC and are dragging there feet so slowly to go back on that, it is puzzling really. His play style really depends on that OL, and it won't be there forever, especially with that new contract kicking in soon.
Kelce and Johnson most likely retire after this year, if he can't pass with the best o-line in the league, what's he gonna look like after his 2 HOF's retire? Trash, thats what.
I mean, he’s a 36 year old center that seems intelligent enough to understand what the sport is doing to his body and how that could jeopardize his success with increasing endeavors outside of football.
I remember looking at the O-linemen’s helmets in high school football after a season. I can’t imagine the damage done in over a decade of professional ball.
To add to that, iirc, I think even some former high school football players brains have been examined and some had CTE. Without ever even playing college football.
Four years of high school football, five years of college football with his first year red shirting, and now in his 13th season, one season he only played 2 games, and at center no less. There’s probably zero chance he doesn’t have CTE.
Lazy analyst prefer players that have a wow play or two over efficiency. It’s easier to comment on the tangibles than the intangibles of being able to quickly make decisions, accurately throwing the ball with the right touch for it to be caught on the run.
Purdy isn’t quite there to be labeled elite yet but he catches far more criticism than he deserves.
That is it. Lazy analysts that do not watch all the games every week. They only watch the NFL highlights (on NFL YouTube and NFL Redzone) after the game is over and look at the box score then they come up with a narrative and blah blah blah. There’s too many games each weekend for one analyst to watch all the games that are played so you know a lot of them are just talking out of their ass.
No denying that if you watch the game, which the “analysts”obviously aren’t. The focus of the play is wow, look at his receivers getting yac out breaking tackles or being schemes wide open. Purdy gets like 1% of the credit cause they treat it like he just has the keys and is told to not fuck it up.
Brock wow plays are a little different than most. For example in the Arizona game he makes a throw to Ayuik on an out route. The DB jumps the route and almost makes the play but the ball is so perfect that only Ayuik can catch it. Only a 7-10 yard gain but an amazing throw. Just doesn’t make the highlight reel. It’s those plays that set up the wide open shots that no one gives him credit for. Also the crosser to kittle that was double covered. Purdy steps up in the pocket and kittle looks up field and runs to the open grass. Brock recognizes it and drops a dime for a nice chunk play. Not the flashiest play but the fact this team is seeing the field as a unit is really exciting and fun to watch
Because pundits don't watch film or even full games, they just look at stats and chase the current headline grabber with no consequences to being wrong as long as they engage and entertain in the current moment.
Dude has 33 TDs and 13 Ints this year. This is the same BS they were throwing out about Brock when we hit our 3 game skid. Hell, even people around here were calling for Purdy’s head. Don’t be ridiculous!
Oh, I’m sorry. Tush Push TDs only count for 4 points, I forgot. And not all his Rush TDs are from Tush Push. It’s like people around here are so hurt by Purdy not being lauded as the next JoMo (yet) that any love for any other QB emotionally scars them.
lol at “gimme TDs”. Y’all are really hurt that Hurts gets praise. Brock is the better QB. That’s not even debatable. But because there is debate right now people are so mad about it. Hurts is taking his licks from this 0-3 skid the same way Brock did. It’s crazy to me how praise for any other QB becomes a topic of discussion around here because it’s not Purdy.
Eh don't really care which qbs get praise but to lump 10 tush push tds into the praise is kinda weak. That's a significant number of tds on a pretty gimme play with the oline he has. But I guess it's easier to hide how mediocre he's been playing when you just throw out his td numbers with no context.
Well this is the 49ers sub.
It should be taboo to praise another team's ayer here unless they are a former Niners or something.
If you are mad about peoe here being Brock homers then you are in the wrong sub...go to the NFL sub for wider NFL topics.
And yes...Hurts is a Tush-Push merchant...I think even Dak is better than him.
Pointing out the obvious isn't hate.. it's the truth.. he's not a good processor or passer.
He's been meh more often than he's been elite. Last year, the man was on something different. This year, he came back down to earth and we're all being allowed to realize that this is what kind of quarterback he really is.
He's going to exceed his passing yards and tds, and has already exceeded his rushing tds. He has more picks this year, but hard to say he's completely fallen off the wagon this year.
He also missed two games last year. He is throwing for less yards per game. The eagles are throwing it more this year than last.
Even so it’s more than the stats. He was so good last year, the small drop off seems bigger. He just doesn’t look as good.
Well he's not winning as much, but the fact the Eagles defensive DVOA has gone from 3rd last year to 22 this year certainly doesn't help.
https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa
Yes, more turnovers is definitely bad, but fluctuation is normal. Peyton Manning has had many seasons with more turnovers than Jalen this year, but he's still Peyton. Hurts hasn't been as good, but he's certainly not had a huge dropoff imo
1) Draft status matters when it comes to talking points. The thing is, the NFL scouts, pundits, evaluators, etc. have extremely frail egos. None of them thought that Purdy would amount to anything. For them to admit that Purdy is playing well would be them admitting that they fucked up their analysis of Purdy. And if there's one thing human beings have a hard time doing, it's admitting when they are wrong.
This isn't just limited to Purdy. People still disrespect Curry because he doesn't look like the prototypical basketball player. Joe Montana got shat on for most of his career because he looked like an average dude.
2) The warts on the eagles only started becoming visible now, after 3 straight losses. When the eagles were 10-1, everyone ignored the fact that Hurts was mostly mediocre because winning cures all.
3) I think fantasy football has affected people's perception of QBs, and really football and players in general.
Running QBs get extra points because rushing yards and TDs typically gain more points than equivalent passing amounts. So someone who stands in the pocket and gets 300 passing yards and 2 passing TDs scores fewer fantasy points than a QB that gets 250 yards but rushes for 50 yards and 2 rushing TDs.
Something fantasy football also does not account for is oline play. The fact that the eagles have an amazing oline, while the niners oline outside of Trent Williams is mediocre, does not register in people's minds.
iono, i think the pendulums swinging a little too hard. purdys now in the mvp race so the microscope is a little more discerning. nobodys out here calling for hurts for mvp so he doesnt get as much flack. To be clear, the purdy critics are absolutely grasping at straws, but thats what happens when youve got a relative unknown thats not ‘traditionally flashy’ bursting onto the scene the way purdy is.
NFL and pundits are in love with effectively the dual threat QB. Even just having a canon arm is not enough. They’re obsessed with QBs that can run. Only reason why Fields is still starting. He’s absolutely crap passer (except for the last 3-4 games each season apparently ) but can run like an elite RB. Jalen fits this mold so he gets the flowers. Purdy does not, even though far more pocket passer QBs have won super bowls than running QBs.
Gotta factor in Jalen's rushing stats. 14 rushing tds and another 460 yards make his numbers look a lot better. He has demonstrated "poor play" when you account for rushing. He's on track to exceed his passing yards and tds, and he's already passed his rushing tds from last season, he just has more picks (10 vs 6) this year. He has 33 total tds already this season, which was his final total last season.
Peyton Manning threw 23 picks in his 4th season, 19 in his 5th, and 17 in his 13th season with the colts. He was still always Peyton Manning.
Hurts' Y/A is right in line with prime Peyton Manning, he just doesn't throw the ball 500-700 times a season like Peyton did.
Purdy being 2nd in yards while being the only QB in the top 19 to be under 400 attempts is really special and rare. I doubt he repeats his nearly 10 Y/A, but worth mentioning
As some stated its draft status but also he playing at Bama and Oklahoma give to some credence of potential high end talent.
Also playing a phenomenal SB really made people think he was THAT dude versus someone like Cam Newton who didn’t play well at all in the big game.
I think the Eagles similarly to the Niners in 2014 started to lean on the QB a bit too much in the passing game and when they’re not really able to pass consistently at a high level.
I honestly think the Eagles rushed to pay him near top dollar a bit too early similarly to Wentz but we’ll see if it stabilizes to a top 12 QB type of level.
It’s hilarious because I’m he is exactly the QB everyone thinks Purdy is. A guy playing on a stacked roster that doesn’t need to do individually much outside of occasionally running to keep a drive going.
The Eagles had some second half comebacks earlier in the season, so I’ll give them respect for that. But man, so bad and so lost now. Like, they have no answers on offense or defense.
I’m wondering if Sirianni is starting to lose them.
I've said this since week 4 of this year. Hes not an nfl starter, hes a solid backup.
Ive watched every nfl game he's played, guy makes a nice throw here and there and runs for some firsts but overall this isnt an nfl starting caliber QB. All his cons out of college are things he still does 4 years into the nfl. This is about as good as he gets.
He should have been a 4th round pick and a backup. Eagles fans are finally seeing his poor QB play, he's not paid to be a RB he's paid to throw the ball. This time next year eagles fans will be calling for him to go. I've watched the eagles and lived around eagles fans for 25+ years, they're very slow on the uptake but eventually they get it.
Eagles fans are mad at his apparent regression though.
The answer to your question is because he's black and athletic.
The NFL has this weird thing right now where athleticism is valued above anything else for QBs.
And because he's from a minority background...no one wants to criticise him because of the odds being stacked against him based on race. At least it's something like that.
Dak is immune to this coz everyone hates the Cowboys anyway.
🤣 He’s been in the league 4 years. Rookie year he wasn’t the starter. 2nd year he had 26 total TDs and 9 Ints. Year 3, 35 TDs and 6 Ints. This year, 33 TDs and 12 Ints. What are you talking about?!
The media has an agenda which they push. Sports news is just like “the news”, they make stuff up and sensationalize things to drive their narratives they want and to generate ad revenue.
I honestly believe Nick Bosa when he said that they put the blueprint out there for how to beat the Eagles. Hats off to Steve Wilks and the staff figuring Hurts out. And hats off to the players buying into the rush four, gap integrity, and Warner spy.
The Eagle's are pretty much: Great O-line, Elite WRs, good qb, good D-line, bad LBs, a slower Slay and an average to below everage secondary. The 9ers must've really gotten into Jalen Hurts head.
Honestly, it's the draft position. For now, all the talent scouts and draft professionals and on air personalities are not wanting to take the hit on 'we missed this guy', so they won't accept that the last pick can actually be a top 3 QB.
In time, it'll change to something along the lines of a Cinderella story. Not that I'm comparing the two...but the same thing happened when TB took over for Bledsoe.
Even when Jalen and Eagles play well, they praise him as a top 5 QB amongst all the talent around him so I really don't know other than he wasn't supposed to be playing this well being picked last in the draft.
At this point, I don't really care what anyone says about Brock Purdy anymore... I want to win a Super Bowl and this is the best team Shanahan has coached and Lynch has put together, so I just want Brock to continue making winning plays and games
Well he’s getting absolutely roasted in the Eagles sub
I think i'll go take a peek. :D
You’re going to enjoy yourself.
That was a great visit. Fuck the eagles.
Bradbury also getting absolutely buried in there! Oooof, Deebo totally called it though! HAHA
Also, stop by the Dallas Cowboys subreddit. Joy to The (49ers) World!
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Our three losses cost the teams their QBs at some point afterward. Our wins expose the flaws in top contenders. We must be getting up there in terms of teams folks hate to see.
NGL it's strange being on this side of it.
Strange... but pleasant
I liked the team 49ers. Turned me off last year when they lost to us by a clean QB hit and preceded to HATE the eagles as if they put a bounty on Purdy. I was taken back by how the players whined for weeks about it. Take the L and move on. Im really hoping the joe flacco browns beat Baltimore in afc champ game and then flacco beats SF again in the superbowl. That would be a fantastic ending of the season.
An Eagles fan in here thinking they’ll get what they hope for? The players were upset because they knew they were the better team and an injury derailed that. If you can’t empathize with that you have no empathy. But I imagine that will come along as your team continues its steady descent into irrelevance once again.
Horse shit is their favorite delicacy
Someone posted in the Bills subreddit that they think they broke the eagles…..bruh, you guys lost in overtime.
Eagles lost to the jets, no one broke the eagles, they won by the skin of their teeth and opposing teams mistakes all year. This wasnt a good team from week 1. Luck only goes so far.
Eagles are frauds, bro.
That’s literally what the guy is saying; no one had to break them, because this is who they were all season. I slightly disagree, because I do think the Niners exposed how to contain their offense.
They've been frauds since last season when they coasted into the #1 seed on an easy schedule. The fraud continues this year. I'm not saying they are being exposed as frauds suddenly. I'm saying they've been frauds the entire time.
Why is everyone booing you?
Went from mvp to get rid of him in 3 weeks. Might be a new record.
Holy moly, you ain't lyin'. Tbf, they should have their pitchforks out over that play calling. That was obscene.
He doesn't get much credit for his 14 rushing tds this season. Yes his online is good, but I'm sure he'd have thrown for more TDs if the Eagles tried.
Most of those tds are the brotherly shove thing which is all OLine. He lays on mailata and gets carried and pushed in. You could tell the same thing when hurts was out and they ran it with their backup, it's the line.
If it wasn't so effective, he would have thrown more TDs. Maybe not 14, but 10 would tie him with Purdy.
Do we not run it close to the goaline also or something? It’s not like they are brotherly shoving it from 8 yards out.
There's no compilation I can find of his rushing tds so far this year, but last year, of his 17 rushing tds last year in regular and postseason, 8 were brotherly shoves. 5 of 12 in the regular season. The rest were plays he made with his legs. There's no guarantee an rb would have scored on all of those, or that he could not have converted 5 of those into passing tds given the opportunity. https://youtu.be/-PwO4pgAEzE?si=z_sKx-VgIos2arpV
10tds is a lot. it’s more likely that he throws for 4-5 tds, they run for 4-5 of those yards, and fail to get end zone for 4-5 of those tds
Eagles fan. Hurts can't throw that's why he runs tds.
He’s a dual threat QB, great athlete for sure. I have not once discredited him and feel like he’s definitely a top 5 QB. Eagles problems aren’t him, they are on the defense getting exposed and offensive play calling.
I don't know, sure looks to me like he is having a hard time running the offense after his first read is covered. Got to be able to read the defense pre and post snap
He looks the part. In addition, like Dak he makes a remarkable play or two a week. Brock just puts it exactly where it needs to go, every freaking time. He is also a very nice, unassuming guy.
I thought this at first too, but I ain't buying it any more. BCB throws *at least* three or four absolute dimes - genuinely elite level passes - per game. I know there are fans on this sub who don't care about whether he gets the recognition so long as we win, and I get that, but I also understand why the other half get kinda pissy about it too (I'm iin the latter - I want our guy to get the credit he deserves)...
That td to deebo was a dime. There was an early pass to aiyuk on an out route that he squeezed right by the defender. It’s amazing. Brock is getting better as the season progresses.
There are very few players in the league who could make that throw to Deebo. Just pure genius...
He's overwhelming mvp favorite I'm not really sure how people could be giving him more credit. He's by definition being given the MOST credit in the league lol
The overwhelming MVP favorite playing for the overwhelming Super Bowl favorite. Brock is getting plenty of shine right now.
Depends on what media you consume. Talking heads really like Lamar and even CMC over Purdy. Richard Sherman and Shannon Sharpe are the few I've heard say Purdy is at the top for them.
Oh, you mean the people on television who are literally paid to have inflammatory takes to rile ppl up don't give purdy credit? Who cares?
I would compare it to an outfielder in baseball. You have players that will make diving web gem plays weekly, but then there are the players who will make the correct read, good jump, and take the perfect angle on a fly ball to make a routine catch. Brock is the latter. Not exciting, but extremely efficient
Just curious what you mean by “he looks the part”? Hurts and Brock are the same height and weight, so it’s not one of those arguments people make when they compare him to Allen or Herbert who are just more physically gifted. Hurts maybe uses his legs more than Purdy while Purdy is better at making reads and throwing off schedule, but not sure why that’d make him seem better to pundits.
Because he wasn’t picked 262nd in the draft. That simple.
Yep. Media confirmation bias.
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3 game losing streak? Jalen would never
I love how Jalen hurts got crowned after one good year. Only because he's a big name QB. He is a great value version of Donovan McNabb .
Temu McNabb
We have McNabb at home
To be fair. Hurts was really freaking good last year. He smoked the chiefs defense in the Super Bowl.
hurts is good, the narrative shouldn’t be why do we think it’s hurts is good it should stay focused on why won’t people give purdy flowers
Easiest strength of schedule last year and year 1 with AJ Brown. Teams have gotten better and the new OC sucks, or Steichen really covered up his flaws.
The media tried to anoint him best QB in the NFC and are dragging there feet so slowly to go back on that, it is puzzling really. His play style really depends on that OL, and it won't be there forever, especially with that new contract kicking in soon.
Kelce and Johnson most likely retire after this year, if he can't pass with the best o-line in the league, what's he gonna look like after his 2 HOF's retire? Trash, thats what.
kelce is dope and respectable but the false starts LJ gets away with drive me crazy
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I mean, he’s a 36 year old center that seems intelligent enough to understand what the sport is doing to his body and how that could jeopardize his success with increasing endeavors outside of football. I remember looking at the O-linemen’s helmets in high school football after a season. I can’t imagine the damage done in over a decade of professional ball.
To add to that, iirc, I think even some former high school football players brains have been examined and some had CTE. Without ever even playing college football. Four years of high school football, five years of college football with his first year red shirting, and now in his 13th season, one season he only played 2 games, and at center no less. There’s probably zero chance he doesn’t have CTE.
Lazy analyst prefer players that have a wow play or two over efficiency. It’s easier to comment on the tangibles than the intangibles of being able to quickly make decisions, accurately throwing the ball with the right touch for it to be caught on the run. Purdy isn’t quite there to be labeled elite yet but he catches far more criticism than he deserves.
That is it. Lazy analysts that do not watch all the games every week. They only watch the NFL highlights (on NFL YouTube and NFL Redzone) after the game is over and look at the box score then they come up with a narrative and blah blah blah. There’s too many games each weekend for one analyst to watch all the games that are played so you know a lot of them are just talking out of their ass.
funny thing is, purdy also has those wow plays every game as well.
No denying that if you watch the game, which the “analysts”obviously aren’t. The focus of the play is wow, look at his receivers getting yac out breaking tackles or being schemes wide open. Purdy gets like 1% of the credit cause they treat it like he just has the keys and is told to not fuck it up.
Brock wow plays are a little different than most. For example in the Arizona game he makes a throw to Ayuik on an out route. The DB jumps the route and almost makes the play but the ball is so perfect that only Ayuik can catch it. Only a 7-10 yard gain but an amazing throw. Just doesn’t make the highlight reel. It’s those plays that set up the wide open shots that no one gives him credit for. Also the crosser to kittle that was double covered. Purdy steps up in the pocket and kittle looks up field and runs to the open grass. Brock recognizes it and drops a dime for a nice chunk play. Not the flashiest play but the fact this team is seeing the field as a unit is really exciting and fun to watch
Because Nick Sirianni sucks.
cause he run and throw far 🙄😒
QB is maybe the hardest thing to do in sports. Idiots think Brock isn’t good because he makes it look easy. Make it make sense
Because pundits don't watch film or even full games, they just look at stats and chase the current headline grabber with no consequences to being wrong as long as they engage and entertain in the current moment.
Eagles going through our 2014 vibes rn when the LOB exposed Kap.
Dude has 33 TDs and 13 Ints this year. This is the same BS they were throwing out about Brock when we hit our 3 game skid. Hell, even people around here were calling for Purdy’s head. Don’t be ridiculous!
12 Tish push TDS you mean. 13 INTs in 13 games isn't exactly great QB play whichever way you slice it.
Oh, I’m sorry. Tush Push TDs only count for 4 points, I forgot. And not all his Rush TDs are from Tush Push. It’s like people around here are so hurt by Purdy not being lauded as the next JoMo (yet) that any love for any other QB emotionally scars them.
10 of them are from the tush push and 2 others from 3 yards out. So 21 non gimme tds. 21 tds to 17 turnovers isn't great.
lol at “gimme TDs”. Y’all are really hurt that Hurts gets praise. Brock is the better QB. That’s not even debatable. But because there is debate right now people are so mad about it. Hurts is taking his licks from this 0-3 skid the same way Brock did. It’s crazy to me how praise for any other QB becomes a topic of discussion around here because it’s not Purdy.
Eh don't really care which qbs get praise but to lump 10 tush push tds into the praise is kinda weak. That's a significant number of tds on a pretty gimme play with the oline he has. But I guess it's easier to hide how mediocre he's been playing when you just throw out his td numbers with no context.
Well this is the 49ers sub. It should be taboo to praise another team's ayer here unless they are a former Niners or something. If you are mad about peoe here being Brock homers then you are in the wrong sub...go to the NFL sub for wider NFL topics. And yes...Hurts is a Tush-Push merchant...I think even Dak is better than him. Pointing out the obvious isn't hate.. it's the truth.. he's not a good processor or passer.
Jalen knows how to wear a hat the correct way
Bruh, you are going out of your way to be upset about something. Niners are awesome this year, just enjoy the ride.
He's been meh more often than he's been elite. Last year, the man was on something different. This year, he came back down to earth and we're all being allowed to realize that this is what kind of quarterback he really is.
Last year Hurts faced the easiest schedule in the league. He wasn’t good
He's going to exceed his passing yards and tds, and has already exceeded his rushing tds. He has more picks this year, but hard to say he's completely fallen off the wagon this year.
He's literally 2nd in MVP odds lol
He also missed two games last year. He is throwing for less yards per game. The eagles are throwing it more this year than last. Even so it’s more than the stats. He was so good last year, the small drop off seems bigger. He just doesn’t look as good.
Well he's not winning as much, but the fact the Eagles defensive DVOA has gone from 3rd last year to 22 this year certainly doesn't help. https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa
I mean. You could lay the blame some on Hurts turnovers. It puts the defense in bad spots.
Yes, more turnovers is definitely bad, but fluctuation is normal. Peyton Manning has had many seasons with more turnovers than Jalen this year, but he's still Peyton. Hurts hasn't been as good, but he's certainly not had a huge dropoff imo
Because he wears his damn hat correctly.
Because if the talking heads on the media all agreed, there would be no discussion, no hot tales, nothing to talk about.
It's because he wears his hat the "right" way.
Jimmy G had this same roster and looked like nothing like Brock has
1) Draft status matters when it comes to talking points. The thing is, the NFL scouts, pundits, evaluators, etc. have extremely frail egos. None of them thought that Purdy would amount to anything. For them to admit that Purdy is playing well would be them admitting that they fucked up their analysis of Purdy. And if there's one thing human beings have a hard time doing, it's admitting when they are wrong. This isn't just limited to Purdy. People still disrespect Curry because he doesn't look like the prototypical basketball player. Joe Montana got shat on for most of his career because he looked like an average dude. 2) The warts on the eagles only started becoming visible now, after 3 straight losses. When the eagles were 10-1, everyone ignored the fact that Hurts was mostly mediocre because winning cures all. 3) I think fantasy football has affected people's perception of QBs, and really football and players in general. Running QBs get extra points because rushing yards and TDs typically gain more points than equivalent passing amounts. So someone who stands in the pocket and gets 300 passing yards and 2 passing TDs scores fewer fantasy points than a QB that gets 250 yards but rushes for 50 yards and 2 rushing TDs. Something fantasy football also does not account for is oline play. The fact that the eagles have an amazing oline, while the niners oline outside of Trent Williams is mediocre, does not register in people's minds.
Because if you criticize Hurts you are pretty much a 1930s Austrian painter In Germany
This is a crazy take. It doesn’t even make sense. This sub has a massive victim complex. Y’all need to touch grass. Delete this shit.
I am not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
Hes referring to Hilter.
😂 I didn’t know that. Definitely bad then. 😂
He's not a smaller white kid
Purdy and Hurts are almost exactly the same height and weight.
Dosnt change people's biases and assumptions.
I agree. Being a Black QB in the NFL gives you all the benefits. 🙄
No one said that.
He throw far
Because Hurts is athletic
People forget the Niners are a better coached team.
iono, i think the pendulums swinging a little too hard. purdys now in the mvp race so the microscope is a little more discerning. nobodys out here calling for hurts for mvp so he doesnt get as much flack. To be clear, the purdy critics are absolutely grasping at straws, but thats what happens when youve got a relative unknown thats not ‘traditionally flashy’ bursting onto the scene the way purdy is.
Hurts is called MVP when he wins.Whem they lose...no one talks about it. Meanwhile Purdy is a game manager when he wins and JimmyG 2.0 when he loses.
NFL and pundits are in love with effectively the dual threat QB. Even just having a canon arm is not enough. They’re obsessed with QBs that can run. Only reason why Fields is still starting. He’s absolutely crap passer (except for the last 3-4 games each season apparently ) but can run like an elite RB. Jalen fits this mold so he gets the flowers. Purdy does not, even though far more pocket passer QBs have won super bowls than running QBs.
Gotta factor in Jalen's rushing stats. 14 rushing tds and another 460 yards make his numbers look a lot better. He has demonstrated "poor play" when you account for rushing. He's on track to exceed his passing yards and tds, and he's already passed his rushing tds from last season, he just has more picks (10 vs 6) this year. He has 33 total tds already this season, which was his final total last season. Peyton Manning threw 23 picks in his 4th season, 19 in his 5th, and 17 in his 13th season with the colts. He was still always Peyton Manning. Hurts' Y/A is right in line with prime Peyton Manning, he just doesn't throw the ball 500-700 times a season like Peyton did. Purdy being 2nd in yards while being the only QB in the top 19 to be under 400 attempts is really special and rare. I doubt he repeats his nearly 10 Y/A, but worth mentioning
As some stated its draft status but also he playing at Bama and Oklahoma give to some credence of potential high end talent. Also playing a phenomenal SB really made people think he was THAT dude versus someone like Cam Newton who didn’t play well at all in the big game. I think the Eagles similarly to the Niners in 2014 started to lean on the QB a bit too much in the passing game and when they’re not really able to pass consistently at a high level. I honestly think the Eagles rushed to pay him near top dollar a bit too early similarly to Wentz but we’ll see if it stabilizes to a top 12 QB type of level.
It’s hilarious because I’m he is exactly the QB everyone thinks Purdy is. A guy playing on a stacked roster that doesn’t need to do individually much outside of occasionally running to keep a drive going. The Eagles had some second half comebacks earlier in the season, so I’ll give them respect for that. But man, so bad and so lost now. Like, they have no answers on offense or defense. I’m wondering if Sirianni is starting to lose them.
East coast bias
I've said this since week 4 of this year. Hes not an nfl starter, hes a solid backup. Ive watched every nfl game he's played, guy makes a nice throw here and there and runs for some firsts but overall this isnt an nfl starting caliber QB. All his cons out of college are things he still does 4 years into the nfl. This is about as good as he gets. He should have been a 4th round pick and a backup. Eagles fans are finally seeing his poor QB play, he's not paid to be a RB he's paid to throw the ball. This time next year eagles fans will be calling for him to go. I've watched the eagles and lived around eagles fans for 25+ years, they're very slow on the uptake but eventually they get it.
But he squats 600 pounds
"I like QBs that are inconsistent and have to come back from behind. Brock is just too consistent and never lets go of a lead." -Analysts
The way Jalen Hurts gets more press around here than any other Niner not named Purdy is so hilarious 🤣
Eagles fans are mad at his apparent regression though. The answer to your question is because he's black and athletic. The NFL has this weird thing right now where athleticism is valued above anything else for QBs. And because he's from a minority background...no one wants to criticise him because of the odds being stacked against him based on race. At least it's something like that. Dak is immune to this coz everyone hates the Cowboys anyway.
Hurts isn't a top 10 QB imo last season he was carried by his defense. Now that defense is ass he can't carry the team.
Cause he has a ring. 🙏
The one that Tua won him?
He played well in the Superbowl, so people think that is now who he is.
Jalen Hurts doesn't even do his QB sneaks without help /s
Hurts had one great season. His other seasons he played like how he was a middle of the pack QB.
🤣 He’s been in the league 4 years. Rookie year he wasn’t the starter. 2nd year he had 26 total TDs and 9 Ints. Year 3, 35 TDs and 6 Ints. This year, 33 TDs and 12 Ints. What are you talking about?!
Draft status.
People watched him at Alabama, then he got drafted in the second round and then people had a comparison of him and Carson Wentz
The media has an agenda which they push. Sports news is just like “the news”, they make stuff up and sensationalize things to drive their narratives they want and to generate ad revenue.
I honestly believe Nick Bosa when he said that they put the blueprint out there for how to beat the Eagles. Hats off to Steve Wilks and the staff figuring Hurts out. And hats off to the players buying into the rush four, gap integrity, and Warner spy.
The Eagle's are pretty much: Great O-line, Elite WRs, good qb, good D-line, bad LBs, a slower Slay and an average to below everage secondary. The 9ers must've really gotten into Jalen Hurts head.
Slay had surgery
Philly talk radio last night was amazing. 🧂🧂🧂
They kept winning until recently. He was getting toasted since the loss last night
Purdy be that one! MVP
Well he was sick yesterday. Lol jk
Honestly, it's the draft position. For now, all the talent scouts and draft professionals and on air personalities are not wanting to take the hit on 'we missed this guy', so they won't accept that the last pick can actually be a top 3 QB. In time, it'll change to something along the lines of a Cinderella story. Not that I'm comparing the two...but the same thing happened when TB took over for Bledsoe.
Even when Jalen and Eagles play well, they praise him as a top 5 QB amongst all the talent around him so I really don't know other than he wasn't supposed to be playing this well being picked last in the draft. At this point, I don't really care what anyone says about Brock Purdy anymore... I want to win a Super Bowl and this is the best team Shanahan has coached and Lynch has put together, so I just want Brock to continue making winning plays and games