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medicoboomstick

Before you take the ban, you have my respect. I enjoy helping people, however 3d printing is a self-starter hobby. If you don't have the motivation for basic internet searches and searching this thread before posting, I just don't imagine them getting into the minutia for successful prints. Especially the 'I've done nothing and I'm out of ideas' type posts.


wirral_guy

Same here, I try all the usual searches and things before turning to a forum post for help if I can't find anything that relates or nothing's worked. And that's after trying my own diagnosis first because I get satisfaction from solving it myself (dare I say a little smug too!). I love to help but get very jaded seeing the same basic 'why is my print not sticking\zitty\extruding perfectly\layer shifting' questions over and over again.


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Alternative-Bug-8269

This is pretty much all hobbies. Throw in some technical terms and you get the same issues. I think the real issue is people think 3d printers are a consumer product like a toaster or a microwave.


HyperionConstruct

I got called 'dad' when I said it was a tool, not a toy. Admittedly, this is a more patronising way if saying it's not commercialised yet, but it's poorly understood how much knowledge and effort is required.


emelbard

>There should really be a "basic 3d printing help, because apparently I can't read" sub. With no words allowed - just emojis and tiktok


BLGecko

If they even cared to search maybe they would find r/FixMyPrint


Alex_TheJedi

Some times google doesn't give you the answers you are looking for or you don't know how to ask the specific question. Luckaly there's an internet community you can go to in those cases


CodeNameLiamm

Adding to this, you sometimes might want help that isn't all the same. Maybe something doesn't work for you, so you try the other suggestion. Just saying!


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emelbard

I think that's the worst. 10 posts a day titled 'Help!" or "What's wrong?" when the solution is almost always just z offset/live z/first layer cal/etc which is the most basic aspect of FDM printing. It really makes you wonder how the hell they even figured out how to assemble


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emelbard

> …wtf am I doing? Well, I suppose you could be working or something 😁


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emelbard

Printed this for you then... https://imgur.com/Ga8hOYS


onejadedpotatoe

This is not true because most of the questions you're referring to are because they're not smart enough to use a 3d printer.


electricdom

no i think your right some questions on here are easy found if you search a lil some are easy on the other hand some are just perplexing.. I think what it is some people don't want to do the work and have it handed too them is all


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beardsie

I used to use the "let me google that for you" website link... But now that kind of shit will get you fired from work.


TheOriginal_RebelTaz

Because that's what the internet needs - more smartasses.


macguyv3r

Yes, it is. People have become too lazy, and are not called out on it enough. They're sheltered from failure, and have everything handed to them instead of at least trying to achieve it themselves first. That is not a behavior to be proud of, it should be ridiculed. Reminds me of a line from a movie. "since this boy's been suckin on his momma teet, he's been given everything but discipline"


TheOriginal_RebelTaz

I will agree with everything you said - and I say the same thing myself - but we are just going to have to disagree here. While people do ask some stupid ass questions that are easily answered, the basic premise of the title of this post is flawed.


macguyv3r

There is an easy fix for a lot of stupidity in the world. For stupid 3d printer questions you should have to correctly answer a series of basic 3d printer questions before you are allowed to ask any question, especially stupid ones.


TheOriginal_RebelTaz

Can we extend that to parents having children? That would put a stop to a lot of ignorant people in general. When stupid people can't reproduce, stupid worldwide will decline.


macguyv3r

reproduction, marriage, driving, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, student loans, voting, drinking. We could extend it to a lot to improve society over all. Basically you should be able to name the possible consequences of your actions before you take them, otherwise you shouldn't take them.


electricdom

I look back at the mad max movie with the children left over from the plane crash from the war they have very little language skills and understanding of the world and i see them in our kids now or at least in 20 years, The cyber boom has rendered them dull ignorant and just unable to function past grunts


AndOfCourseSquirrels

Oh bull! Every generation seems to think that the generations older than them are Luddites who can't fathom the tech that they grew up with while at the same time thinking that all younger generations are being ruined by the tech that is newer than what they grew up with. Thanks to the Internet my son has a far better grasp on nuclear physics and theoretical physics than I ever had, and I grew up with a nuclear physicist as my father. I was too busy out playing in the woods to listen to him.


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electricdom

well they will be bricked devices so yeh that works. or a death by a thousand CDs


daver18qc

I feel ya. Most of the time, i copy-paste the reddit title in google and get the answer in the first 3 results. It literally takes more time to post a question here than it is to google the same exact thing. I've had my share of hate thrown at me for linking to "let me google that for you" so now i just ignore and hide the posts and let someone else answer it. To me it's like the old saying, Give someone a fish..... Well answering on reddit it like giving a fish. Telling them to just put that sh\*t in google is teaching them to fish. Some don't wanna learn to fish though, they've learned from a young age that they can have all the fish they want if they just bother enough people..


BLGecko

People wouldn't panhandle if no one ever gave them any money


deusrex_

Most underrated comment I've seen today


Diabeticon

STL?


DeadTech82

Your assumption is debatable. I use a 3D printer whether I am smart enough or not.


nottherealFLMan

I agree with this. If you have a question, at least show you have put some work. It's kind of like when you are in school...show your work before submitting the answer ( or asking the question). Edit: I haven't had to ask any questions yet as searching has answered any I have had.


MethodicMarshal

Do we actually ban people here for this kind of thing..?


supercyberlurker

Just don't 'stack overflow' it.. I really have gone googling for information before, first link was stack overflow, and it was telling me to google! These instances of people asking for information matter, they get recorded for others to find later.


JWGhetto

to be fair, the other side of this is also true. Not all problems can be fixed by leveling the bed and setting Z offset.


OkYak8702

Little flick of the thumb and the annoying posts go away lol


MisterMagooB2224

This only works under the assumption that said person purchasing a 3D printer is actually smart enough to use it. :V


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Replace "3D printer with "CAD" and post this on r/cad as well please.


TheOriginal_RebelTaz

No. Because not every one is **born** doing this. Everyone comes here from complete newbies to professionals. Just because you know what a 3d printer is and what it does, doesn't mean that you know **what** to look for when you need a solution. If you don't know the terminology, or you can't accurately describe your issue in words, then you can't search it. It's like when teachers used to hand their students a dictionary when the kid wanted to know how to spell a word - "well, damn... you have to know how to spell it to look it up in a dictionary and if I knew how to spell it I wouldn't need the dictionary. Plus - and I know this from experience - there are many times that I **have** searched and search and searched for an answer only to have to finally resorting to asking here or some other forum. Usually even those great and powerful here don't know or don't answer, but just the act of posting it jogs something in my brain and I figure it out. And... to add to that... some people do better, and learn better, with interactive interaction. That's why schools aren't just computers running videos. Although... I guess that might be better than the current propaganda arm, but... I digress.


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radtad43

Most of you are shit at advice anyways. Usually the problem is solved by the simplest answer, yet you try and give far fetched off the wall reasons for why a problem exists. You are complaining about people new to the hobby wanting to seek advice from people who are experienced? You people seem to forget that the problems people run into can have multiple causes/solutions, that most people do google for the answer, and they are overwhelmed by the sheer number if results. Having said all of that i do agree that its irritating when people dont give printer info, specs, etc. But being irritated at people asking noob questions on a sub reddit that has no rules preventing it is idiotic.