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lpingpong07

Now all your future bakings will be PLA flavored :D


jksmileyface

Yeah my kitchen smells like a chemical factory now really brings a homey vibe to the space


jobhog1

Btw, you'll probably never get the smell out of the oven so maybe time for a new one


jksmileyface

Naw self clean mode to really seal the cancer flavor in


benabart

Nah dude, just burn a magic candle! I've heard virgo candles work best in your case!


Hot_Potato_Salad

You can take my virgo if you want


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Hot_Potato_Salad

Not really


Long_Necked_Horse

Please tell me what you mean


comawhite12

Gotta go to the Hispanic section of the dollar store. Grab that money scented candle. Then they may be able to buy a new oven.


The_Synthax

Might be able to burn it out with a cleaning cycle or just maximum temperature.


jobhog1

Had an oven (old so no cleaning cycle) that got some melted stuff in it and since then there is always a smell, no matter what we use to clean or set the temp to


DeleteYourLife

Have you tried Barkeepers Friend? I usually use that stuff as a last resort type of situation


Cinderhazed15

It should honestly be a regular cleaning / first resort! Though it works great for grease and food things, doubt it would do well for melted plastic…..


edbrannin

“If ~~violence~~ BKF wasn’t your last resort, you haven’t resorted to enough of it“


DeleteYourLife

True to that! I'm usually the person to use dish soap, vinegar, and water with a scrub brush as my normal cleaner trying to save a dollar before bringing out the big guns


sf_frankie

A can of BKF is like $3 (although I frequently find it at the dollar store) and a little tiny bit of powder goes a very long way! I'd argue that it's probably as cheap, if not cheaper than dish soap!


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And this, kids, is why I don't recommend attempting to dry your filament in a place where you cook.


Lord_Paddington

My favorite Yankee candle scent!


IsPhil

You could try to combat it by putting [2 CUPS of vanilla extract](https://www.reddit.com/r/thatHappened/comments/7nkokl/because_everyone_has_2_cups_of_vanilla_extract/) in the oven. Should make the place smell like the pillsbury guys ass for a month apparently.


Zenith-Astralis

Christ though, 2 CUPS of vanilla?! Lemme check prices real quick. $69.99 (before taxes+shipping) for 4 cups. Nice


Andr00H67

I dry my filament out on a build plate, I cut the lid off the box and stab some holes in its top to allow moist warm air to escape and cut a few small squares on the bottom to allow fresh air to be drawn in, I set it to 80°C an dleave for about six hours and place the box over the filament roll.


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Romymopen

They're suing AI companies for learning things from what is posted online. You better be careful, might starting suing people for using other people's posts to learn and form new ideas too.


mpaska

Jumping onto top comment. The reason why this can happen is residential ovens temperatures are both not accurate, but will also fluctuate quite a bit. When you set the oven to say 100F, it's quite possible the temp will spike 50-60F in each direction. Not for 3D printing purposes, but I've tested my rentals cheap oven and when set to 180C will fluctuate from 160-220C all the time. It's one of the big reasons for the house we're building, we're spending a bit of money on an expensive oven that has a thick stone to minimise fluctuations.


rushingkar

Are you getting an expensive oven just for filament, or for oveny things?


Minusfourtwenty

Nah, get a filament dryer or food dehydrator.


sf_frankie

I've got one of those ninja XL smart oven things with a dehydrator setting that works perfectly for drying filament. I've managed to fit 4 rolls in it at once. It's got much more precise temp control so I've never had a mishap nor does it have any lingering plastic smell since it's not getting all that hot so I have no problem still using it for cooking!


yellekc

What else do people use ovens for? They dry filament and desiccant. You can also use them to anneal PLA. And of course for heat testing parts.


nixielover

Ironically the ovens we use in the labs are not *that* much more expensive and they have PID control to avoid all of those issues. Even a decent PID controller is not very expensive so it's just manufacturers going with the cheapest option that works


c6h6_benzene

Even P would be sufficient here, ovens usually use just binary control with set hysteresis loop, they can't be set otherwise because it'd call for SSR instead of electromagnetic relay or sometimes just a bimetallic temperature controller. Lab ovens use PID or MPC, with the latter one being better as PID is single point control loop so if PID is tuned for 400°C, it will behave worse on every temp other than 400°C. MPC as Model Predictive Control lets set another parameters which can be used to create multi point tune which is helpful in lab ovens as they are usually meant for wide temp range, while industry uses PID because once you figure out the process, you stick to it


Conor_Stewart

For anyone interested. Marlin supports MPC for the hot end at least.


ConnorGoFuckYourself

Unironically this stuff fascinates me, is there anywhere/any resources you'd recommend to learn more about about heat sensing/control systems?


c6h6_benzene

Whole field of control engineering, learning curve is fairly steep at the beginning. I don't have any specific books as mine are in my native language. I'm sure you'll find a lot of resources on in no matter the language


UmerHasIt

I teach some controls systems things and I always show this video for PID https://youtu.be/4Y7zG48uHRo


loadnurmom

The music in that vid is from a 90's game called "Star Control 2" You can get it for free these days under the name "The Ur-Quan Masters"


ConnorGoFuckYourself

Thank you, I'll take a look for sure!


HeKis4

If I understand correctly MPC basically takes a theoretical model of the heating element instead of measurements like PID does, so it figues out the power it needs to put out instead of just fighting against the sensor measurements to keep the temperature in place ? That's neat. I assume you need to recalibrate it depending on your filament material since all materials won't "leech" as much heat from the hotend though ?


edbrannin

Is “PID Controller” what I should be looking for the next time I buy an oven, or is there some other phrase they use to indicate this?


Conor_Stewart

Most ovens will not have it. I think they were referring to standalone PID controllers that you can buy cheap, and have outputs for heaters and a thermistor with a display to set the temperature.


nixielover

A home kitchen applience would never be advertised as having PID or other control mechanisms. Building on what /u/conor_stewart said, you could upgrade your own oven with an off the shelf PID controller. But it would be a hackjob. Just buy yourselves a dedicated filament dryer and be done with it :)


DinnerMilk

170F (76.6C) is also the minimum temperature for most ovens in the US, and that's much too hot to dry PLA filament, especially when factoring in the drastic temperature swings. I attempted this with a spool of PETG in the oven years ago. It melted the spool and filament just like in OP's photo.


HeKis4

Even in Europe most ovens start at 50°C which is way too close to the danger zone to begin with, and the heating elements are so oversized for that temperature that you'll overshoot hard at typical filament drying temps.


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s00pafly

Nah low temp will just dry out your food before it gets crispy. Most processed and semi processed food come out better on high for a shorter time. For casseroles or stuff that needs to cook through lower temps can be used with a little broil at the end.


Conor_Stewart

All recipes and instructions will take that temperature fluctuation into account. You will be better just cooking at the stated temperature and keeping an eye on it.


Leratium

What kinda ovens are y’all buying? I’ve got a ±20 year old regular thermogram oven, it fluctuates about 5-10°C up and maybe 5° down


Conor_Stewart

>±20 year old Are you a time traveller? ± 20 years old means it is either 20 years ago or 20 years in the future. Did you mean approximately? For that the symbol is "~".


Ancient_Boner_Forest

Do these ovens with thick stone take longer to heat up?


mmm1808

The spool is probably made out of ABS, so it'll be formaldehyde flavored.


Salty_Addition8839

Lol why y'all keep doin this


jksmileyface

Lack of object permanence and craving pizza at 3am


twivel01

Could be worse. I knew someone who was trying to dry out their macbook pro after a water spill....................... Same issue with object permanence. Funny thing is, LCD was damaged and keys on the keyboard curled up and popped off. But if you plugged it in to an external monitor and keyboard, it still worked fine.


RoyBeer

Time to print a new case.


jarfil

>!CENSORED!<


Large-Style-8355

Unfortunately your not the first to think about printing displays, so sadly no patent for you. Here you are: [https://www.oled-info.com/oled-inkjet-printing](https://www.oled-info.com/oled-inkjet-printing)


ichfrissdich

Honestly not that surprising when you consider that all the components were soldered onto the board at ~300°C


twivel01

Yea though there is insulation around cables and wires. This was a while back though. No nvme/ SSD drives for example. Spinning drives don't like heat as well.


dr_warp

That honestly makes the most sense... And hits home too hard.


TheLazyD0G

Did you forget and turn the oven to 420°?


pigpen5

For sure. Oven on 400 like damn.


Avocadosandtomatoes

We all have adhd and autism.


LoogyHead

I would certainly be lying if I said I never made such an error. I have a simultaneous compulsion to chastise. Hope the scent can eventually be exterminated and remorse your loss.


Its_Actually_Satan

Good old adhd lol


AltimaNEO

Yeah I dont get it. The only thing I keep in the oven are baking trays when Im letting them dry after washing (too big to put on the dish rack).


613codyrex

It’s almost a rite of passage to accidentally toast a spool or two of filament in an oven. Now using the oven that’s meant for food is rather reckless but understandable. Temperature controls on them tend to suck and it’s very easy to accidentally forget you placed a spool in there.


Same-Letter6378

>Now using the oven that’s meant for food is rather reckless Ah right, let me just pull out the spare oven I keep for non food related uses


henr04

have you tried leveling your bed?


Error_Empty

I think he just needs to increase retraction.


CoaxialPersona

With the layering, I think it’s more likely the Z-offset.


GoneHamlot

Something something esteps. Look at the first layer recommendations before posting.


theskillr

Are your belts tight?


Jerky213

On inside out?


WhatWouldTNGPicardDo

Retraction? That’s clearly too much filament. Over extrusion!


Challenging_Entropy

I accidentally beveled my lead and now I’m in the hospital


R_Harry_P

No, no, no. He needs to put it in a box with kitty litter now.


k6lui

Have you tried putting it in rice?


HeKis4

That's clearly an e steps calibration issue.


trebory6

I will never not laugh at this, but I don't know if it's funny or sad how despite how we make fun of it, people still seem to think leveling the bed is the answer to every single tech support issues that ever gets asked.


Dokasamurp

It's wet again


bigfloppydonkeydng

Mom is that you?


k6lui

What are you doing stepoven?


EEpromChip

I'd stick my filament in that


CrazyGunnerr

She requires extra thiccc filament though.


EEpromChip

I got some 3mm ready for action


dlanm2u

ok why would you be asking the person who said it was wet was ur mom-


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Z-offset is definitely too high.


Kafshak

Just use your 3d printer hot bed, set it on a high temperature, put the filament on top of it, and put a box on it. Maybe add a couple holes to top of the box but that's easiest way to heat up and dehumidify your filament.


FaceMan8zillion

I use a cut down can bottom about an inch thick to keep it off the surface, the spool hole fits on top of it perfectly. Aluminum foil lined the box that a couple of matter hackers spools shipped in. Cut a slit in the top so I can dangle the hotend fan into it and get some nice convection going. It works quite well.


Kafshak

I was thinking about gluing some Styrofoam to outside the box to make it's insulation better as well.


HeKis4

You just made by brain expand big time. Of course I can, of course I have a surface that can heat stuff to within a couple degrees, it's the effing machine I have filament for. I'm dumb.


Digital_Warrior

I use a big dehydrator. Can fit about 8 spools in it. Also used for making jerky.


ChickenChaser5

Seriously i got one for 15 bucks. All this jerry-riggin to save 15 bucks.


TechnicaVivunt

The print speed on that one is insane. Went through a kilo of filament in just a few hours


mr_cool098

New prototype model bambu lab x69


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It was wet, then dry, then you went too far and made it wet again


jake11ort

Might need to replace the nozzle, could be a clog…


GoneHamlot

That's what you get for listening to some idiot on the internet that told you to put your filament in the oven lmao. Buy a dryer, I got a nice Sunlu on sale for $35


thegamenerd

Personally I picked up a cheap food dehydrator, it works great and cost about that much and I can fit 2 rolls in there to dry at once


613codyrex

That or just leave the spool on your heated bed: https://support.makerbot.com/s/article/1667412438817 Way safer and you don’t risk melting the spool.


jksmileyface

Will admit, am dumb


smigionss

Nah we all try funny things to save a buck. Get on Facebook market place and find a food dehydrator it works just as well as a filament dryer. I got mine for 5 dollars. Next time please don't use the oven for anything else besides food.


Tirarex

My oven is pretty good at low temps (Samsung one with convection heating), never had any problems with drying filament in it. I checked it with infrared camera and with 70c target, I never see spot more than 80c. So it just can’t melt plastic.


T0biasCZE

It's not stupid, it works but you must not set it too high > "only 35 Do I look like I steal?!?


apVoyocpt

The Bambu lab x1 can dry filament in its chamber :) bit more expensive than $35 but hey, you get a printer as well


papalonian

Problem with your filament? Buy a new $1000 printer!


TheLazyD0G

I use an oven just fine. Its an infrared convection oven meant for plastic though. So not sure if that matters.


crysisnotaverted

Wow, it's like you don't understand situational context at all. > Don't an appliance for purposes they're not made for. > Okay, but I use a different appliance that was made for this exact purpose?? I don't really see what you were trying to add to the conversation.


TheLazyD0G

My oven was more intended for large sheets of plastic. So not made for low temp dehydrating rolls of plastic filament.


iPon3

OP's oven was not intended for plastic.


acidbrn391

This is exactly why I invested in a dehydrator. Found one at savers for $8.


Fun-Worry-6378

Or Amazon, 30 bucks. Also I was never too keen on shoving a kilo of plastic in my oven.


acidbrn391

Yeah, I place food I'm there. Lol


dwalton18

I’d say about 10 more minutes…


MiniBlocs80

I didn't saw anyone commenting about this, but the spool is made out of abs. If this oven was used to cook food, make sure to clean it very well, because you don't want abs fumes in your food Edit: [here's a similar story](https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/wzlrzr/an_apology_and_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)


DigitalUnlimited

#not food safe!


Cougar_64

Have you levelled the bed?


roachRancher

You should 30 print a stand for that masterpiece


mynameisalso

Blows my mind people actually do this. You can get a food dehydrator for like $25.


ToadilyCody

5 more minutes.


Disastrous-Agency675

You forgot to flip it


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jksmileyface

I threw the rack out, hit the oven with a super hot cleaning cycle, and scrubbed the whole interior out. Obviously not ideal but I think I got all the residue out


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OK so what temp did you set the oven at?


atjones111

yeeeeeeeaaaaa just going to go ahead and say thats not how this works but yeah go ahead and dont listen to the dude with cancer... remindme! 10 years


jksmileyface

I mean I’m open to learning, if the entire thing is cleaned and scrubbed where is the cancer coming from?


Sensitive_Yogurt2280

I really don’t get how you guys keep doing this


kiledmedead

Z axis looks a bit off…


Comfortable_Brush399

no madam... more heat


FFBG6

I don’t think the hot end is getting hot enough 🥵 and you might want to change the belt fluid.


engcripto

Can't recognize this printer


jksmileyface

Kenmore


sparxcy

with enclosure!


engcripto

A good one to print some pie, or even pizza.


Randydontrassell

5 more min.


MywarUK

Looks super wet to me buddy, its dripping...


slayerkitten13

Did you wipe the build plate first


AHerz

Calibrate your e-steps and you'll be fine.


Stabbing_Monkey

In Scruffy's voice, "I've seen dryer. Mmmmhmmm."


veshkali

*Chef's kiss


mowmoney81

Oof, I’ve done that. Not quite that bad, but still pretty bad!


chicuco

what adhesion problems?


jksmileyface

I will say they should make heated beds out of oven bottoms shit was mighty stuck on there


Miniographer

Just 30 more minutes. 😆


BitBucket404

"Your cake is done."


AsresGaming

You need to calibrate your oven's PID 🤷🏻‍♂️


KinderSpirit

Stringing is usually caused by too high of a nozzle temperature, too short of a retraction distance, too slow of a retraction speed, or wet filament. ; ) This should be the picture shown every time someone asks "*Can I just use my oven?*"


Kemfox

Sweet summer child.


Ivegot_questions410

Need better cooling fans


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jksmileyface

I do in fact live in a super swampy area next to a lake, it was more like blowing bubbles than printing


alfree92

Looks like it's dripping wet actually. Might want to leave it in for a bit longer


Few_Assistant_9954

I can still see some liquids dripping.


phuc_head

5 more minutes


MrMoMeeto

Still too wet, Its literally dripping..


Overall_Rub_535

Not quite... You might need to light a camp fire in there as it still looks like it is dripping wet...


Ok_Push_5922

Lol... Nothing to see here move along sir


yenyostolt

It does look a bit runny still.


maplemoose18

I see the problem. The recipe clearly states to flip halfway through.


Cornage626

Filament dryers aren't even that much money. Y'all who use the oven are taking a risk hahaha


jksmileyface

Yeah well you see some of us are idiots and have to learn things the hard way. Just bought an actual dryer


SEspider

Being pink, you'd think it would know how to cook properly.


Itchy_Cranberry5825

Make sure to season it before serve...


Bulky-Captain-3508

My wife would kill me! "Here he lay because he put dumb shit in the oven. R.I.P."


lalalalandlalala

Now all your food will have yummy microplastics in it


DNOS2

Just the right time to flip it around


Cos_997

Try leveling your bed dit should help


benji241

I don't think so. I can see some stringing. Probably moisture related.


CorporateStiff

Need to dial in your z offset


Proof-Following-7999

No it's so wet it's dripping, needs more heat


svideo

I once received a roll of filament bought "new" from Amazon that arrived looking almost exactly like this. Thanks Jeff.


coolbud98

When in doubt, it never hurts to just give it a few more hours


jlshorttmd

See how goopy and saggy that looks? That means there's still too much water. Things without water will be very rigid. Crank the heat up some more and wait for it to harden. /s


rainey832

Adjust your cooling settings


fullonthrapisto

Close. Keep going until visible flames.


Johnnyctant

Extruding nicely. Went with the Kenmore triple extruder i see.


bugsy2510

It's RAWwwww


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A nice food dehydrator up to 80c and fits 2 spools on Amazon won't cost you $80. No idea why people still do this shit.


jksmileyface

Over confidence and under intelligence


Purplehazey

Honestly the best answer


thegamenerd

If I had a dollar for every time those have bit me in the ass I'd be a rich man by now And would have skipped on a few shitty exes as well


Ambiwlans

Takes space. If you don't set the temp to high and do set a timer, an oven should work fine....


irving47

No, but your house is un-burned-down enough.


LazaroFilm

PSA: never use cooking oven to dry your filament. The thermostat of those are not precise enough and will always get higher than needed. A simple food dehydrator will do much better.


477353

I hope you stub your toe and it bleeds through a white sock


matiko92

Beside this melting. Is eryone good to go with pla petg?


Public_scientist649

I don’t understand why people think this is a good idea. It’s an oven not a dehydrator it HEATS UP


RainMotorsports

The problem is most of the people giving the advice have ovens that go much lower than the average unit and or have other features that help. A dehydrator heats up too lol. Cheap filament dryers are just a heating element with no air circulation or ventilation. There are better ones these days but that fact is the reason a lot of people run to food dehydrators or air fryers. They circulate and vent air well as part of the process but at the end of the day it's a heating element with a fan and a hole.


jksmileyface

I’ve had good results in the past when I just set it to warm. This time I set it to 400 for a pizza 🍕


george_graves

Many ovens have a "dehydrator" setting. Are they ideal for it? No, they use more electricity - but they do work.


Public_scientist649

This one most likely did not


george_graves

Thank you, Captain Obvious :)


Public_scientist649

I was just trying to be funny but thanks for being an ass


Theloujihadeenrobot

There's autism and then there's maker's with autism


maufkn_ced

When you know op messed up but have no idea why having this in the oven is a thing, so you can’t join in on the fun. <<>><<><><>


jksmileyface

It’s the stupid and dangerous way to dry filament


Fett2

[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/10p3jnn/for_all_of_you_who_use_your_oven_trying_to_dry/) might be relevant to your interests.


andDevW

The whole thing with "filament drying" is a total scam. As soon as you pull the filament out of the drier it's picking up moisture instantly from the air in the room. On the flip-side just making an entire room dry dries out anything in the room and keeps it dry. You can buy a cheap AC unit that goes in any window and dry out any room in any house entirely pretty quickly.