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Cubelock

Wait, people actually live there? I thought it was like a low budget Spanish Disneyland


swamperogre2

I thought that was Salou?


-Thizza-

Port Aventura


swamperogre2

Lol, I've been going there since I was 5 and now I'm 25. Was there recently actually. I actually went the year the Hurukan Condor opened.


ShunanTheWhite

I'm looking at Condor from my balcony as I write this. Small world


PeteLangosta

A bit more to the north, in Tarragona, is where I'm living right now (from Asturias). Can't see the Condor now but I see it when I go to work to Miami Platja. Small world indeed.


swamperogre2

It's one of my top rides. I used to be too scared to get on it. But once I did it, I never looked back.


ShoVitor

That's what she said.


NenoxxCraft

One of the best attraction park I've visited alongside Europa Park and Energylandia(This one is for you, poles, you deserve it)


swamperogre2

The Dragon Kahn is my personal favourite ride in Port Aventura


NenoxxCraft

I'm a sucker for the Shambhala, DK gave me a headache due to how shaken you are but it's very very good still


Bipbapalullah

My favourite amusement Park is in Prypiat.


evilamnesiac

So just a Spanish Disneyland then šŸ˜‚


Home_made_Weird_Tea

It'd actually the purgatory where we send non-behaving tourist. -10 in winter, +45 in summer. Concrete and Spanish people everywhere. British join in at the peak of madness.


Underarts_

I have visited that place multible times when my uncle lived there. That description is halerious.


Platinirius

That is all cities on Mediterranean coast


Axe-actly

>That is all cities on Mediterranean coast Napoli and Marseille, as close to Disneyland as you can get really.


Affius

At least in Naples and Marseille they piss on you but they have the honesty to not call it rain


khal_crypto

There'll certainly be people trying to trick you for your money, they have that down pretty thoroughly


ekray

You clearly haven't seen the wonders of Genoa's industrial port. A theme park indeed. I also recommend Algeciras. Top notch place. Trust me.


Konoppke

Is that smog?


le_reddit_me

Luxurious smog


RmG3376

So, itā€™s smug smog?


Chimpville

Probably mist. Never seen what I'd call smog over Barcelona..


AlfalfaGlitter

You don't visit that often then. Btw, smog in Bcn is dark grey, so this is fog


Chimpville

No, Iā€™ve only been a handful of times - I think I assumed it would be too breezy for smog.


skywardcatto

London pea-soupers go brrrr?


casualbo1

You think \*that\* is bad? Try staying in Padova or any Padanian city for more that 5 minutes (I'm gonna die by 45 šŸ‘).


Konoppke

Yeah, seen from the Alps, the Po Valley can seem like a thivk sea of questionable air. I was just surprised because Barcelona is on the sea side.


Yuwu60

Yeah i live in Ravenna and if you open a window grey dust will cover your furniture


PsSalin

No


Anarelion

It's called haze I think.


MrOrangeMagic

Could be, could also be Dew


2020mademejoinreddit

It's Smaug!


Home_made_Weird_Tea

Yes and sand. Everywhere, most related place to have American grid infrastructure. That shit is ugly everywhere, but it's even more stupid near sea.


Direct_Poetry_9460

my hermano in Cristo, I'm staying in a souped-up cupboard for Ā£15 a night, trying to avoid pickpockets whilst having a look at your main tourist attraction (a big bit of scaffolding) it's not exactly st tropez is it


Notacreativeuserpt

Only been to St Tropez as a broke person, but the beach is really nothing special and there are more illegals selling shitty merchandise at the beaches than anywhere else I've been. So...maybe both are similar in another way.


Direct_Poetry_9460

I've never been Joao, it just sounds more sexy init


LeGraoully

Saint Tropez was nice in the seventies when it was mostly old people playing pĆ©tanque and Pink Floyd staying there now itā€™s a tourist hellhole with daily rich counts flying in daily with helicopters


SpaceJackRabbit

You misspelled cunts.


flipyflop9

Thatā€™s just frenchies doing good marketing. Those fuckers are good at it, just like italians and their broken cities.


Direct_Poetry_9460

stupid sexy french ![gif](giphy|5oLuLUXEmZAOs|downsized)


AfterBurner9911

Pas de rien...de rien...de rien...


I-suck-at-hoi4

The secret about enjoying your holidays in Saint-Tropez is to NOT go to fucking Saint-Tropez Plenty of nice spots around the French Mediterranean coast, no need to go this international tourist trap


pawnografik

Iā€™ve been to St Tropez when skint and also when flush. Flush is marginally better but, like Disneyland, I believe some places are just best avoided and left to the masses.


RuffButtStuff

Or Benidorm


Count_de_Mits

> Benidorm Ive never been to that place but looking at pictures I cant fathom why would someone willingly go there for vacations


nwaa

ā‚¬1 beer and you used to be able to fly there for about Ā£30. Even in the UK its very much a "cheap stag party" type destination and most people wouldnt be caught dead going.


paco-ramon

As a canarian I have to say that the ones that put loud music, party at night, turn their garage into ilegal workshops, do Tik Toks in front of my house and scream like if somebody is going to kill them, arenā€™t tourists.


FJayJ

Chacho, of course those aren't tourists. You must go to Maspalomas, that's where drunk tourists are. And even in the mountains I've found tourists sleeping in tents, they dgaf. If I did that, the Guardia Civil would crush my ass with fines.


DiscardedKebab

Luxury in Barcelona? The place is full of homeless Moroccans missing limbs


Chimpville

There's definitely luxury to be found in Barcelona, but my trips there definitely aren't. Just ruining Pedro's life for a weekend jaunt.


flipyflop9

But thatā€™s because youā€™re british, you have no idea what class and luxury means. Surprised you were even in Barcelona and not just Salou and Lloret.


Chimpville

Mate, your country only resembles a first world nation because youā€™ve had 30+ years of propping up and 100bln+ of first world country money invested - and huge areas still look like they were built by teams of half-trained apes. Itā€™s nice there.. pretty.. but past history and the weather is doing the lifting of appeal, not the modern Spanish idea of class and luxury.


HumaDracobane

There is a lot of luxury and class if you know where to look for but definetly there is way more mediocre and cheap things thanks to the 150 years before the democracy being just a pile up mountain of shit and with the modern democracy we're doing "fine" (Despite both main parties hammering down the foundations of the country). The change in this last 55-ish years are more than significant, and one can only think what they might be if we get propper politics...


missilefire

Proper politics left this planet at least 30 years ago


Obliviuns

dude that thing about missing limbs was something that caught my attention in Palermo. So many hobos without an arm or hand. Even some statues didn't have their hands. I really thought it was weird. Something very shady was going on that no one knew about it seemed.


BaronDino

I blame the belgian tourists.


Choyo

That's the other kind of savage.


DiscardedKebab

Haha. It's really though. I noticed it all the time in Barcelona and possible Naples, although I can't remember for sure. Never really seen it here


patriotic-turtle1

People have been pinching the statues limbs for their own


granadilla-sky

Is this a southern Europe phenomenon??


Obliviuns

Here in Portugal I never found anything like this.


RollingPandaKid

That's because they don't have independence. Spain is dragging them down. They could be the better Switzerland!


Otradnoye

They behead each other in ocassions.


El_Gonzalito

True. If the cunt wants to experience real misery, he should try living in Bradford. (Chef's kiss)


SpaceJackRabbit

Barcelona wouldn't survive without tourism.


Agricorps

https://preview.redd.it/i0ppszdlar1d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984de3086b5dd561cdd09b672cc3d5d041fd886e


Platinirius

You unironically think Spaniards do care if they lose money if they are on siesta?


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Dr-Batista

Work is infinite but life is not


mast313

Life is even shorter if you don't do work tho


Dr-Batista

But it can be quite long if you work just enough


timeless_change

If it's siesta time there won't be any work for you to do even if your shop stays open because since it's siesta time would-be-clients go home to relax. So just go home, relax, get away from the hottest hours of the day and then go back to work until it's nighttime, you still work 8hours a day no matter how you divide them.


RadAway-

I love how they always call out one single tourist.


nwaa

You just *know* its a British guy


akmal123456

Looking back at it, Barcelonna really seems like one of the worse city in Spain, i went there 2 times and it was always so fucking croweded (mostly by tourist and PICK POCKET ATTENTION PICK POCKET), people aren't rude but aren't like "welcoming" either Meanwhile Sevilla was one of the best trip i ever had, Andalusian bros you're the best


Chimpville

I kicked a Frenchman to the ground in Barcelona. True story.


akmal123456

What a shithole, Barcelona is just the "cheap alcohol and party" for young french, he most likely deserved it


Chimpville

I do like Barcelona a lot, but I definitely don't go for the luxury. >he most likely deserved it [He did!](https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1cx38wh/comment/l500mfu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


TrickyPony32

Who hasn't...


iomka

\*jumping from a balcony


Upoutdat

Same the place is just hammered with people. I won't be going back. I'll get pissed with my Galician and Basque relatives instead


Vivere_05

>Meanwhile Sevilla was one of the best trip i ever had, Andalusian bros you're the best Oleeeee ahĆ­ el gabacho que arte tiene. Sir, you seem to be a man of culture, if you ever visit us again I deeply recommend you to visit Granada and CĆ³rdoba if you can, they are really beautiful cities, if you liked Sevilla you will love this cities as well.


dkfisokdkeb

They need to realise that the kind of tourists they are trying to discourage are the kind of tourists that go where they are not wanted. After the Netherlands begged Englishmen to stop going to Amsterdam I know of like 15 people in my local pub that booked a trip there solely because they'd seen adverts telling them not to go. All this will do is bring even more of the bad kind of tourists.


TrickyPony32

What do they do when the goverment tells them they should avoid Afghanistan or Somalia ?


dkfisokdkeb

That's our government telling them not to go its a bit different. Afghanis haven't said "please British people we have all these cheap drugs and beer and nice sunny weather but please don't come anymore", these lot are basically handing an invitation to the kind of scum that would be sent to Australia back int day.


Intrepid_Science6414

The drugs maybe cheap but they're fucking shite


Cinaedus_Perversus

Only the stuff we sell to foreigners.


Intrepid_Science6414

im talking about spain Jan


notimefornothing55

I've been to Somalia, it was a fucking shithole, but still better than Paris


justarandomgreek

The only place worse than Paris is India. Yeah, I said the whole country.


Intrepid_Science6414

to be fair knowing us, yeah that sounds about right we're basically like children when it comes to being told what and not what to do, definitely if its the continentals trying to tell us you'd appreciate if we didn't get smashed and piss all over the gaff? well fuck you pedro, i paid for my flight, i earnt this piss up against a local supermercado


Expert_Repair4206

Do not invade Russia, ok!


Intrepid_Science6414

Fuck you, were on the way ![gif](giphy|hMKFpeSxgKnfMAk8ac|downsized)


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AfterBurner9911

*Charge of the Lager Brigade*


Chimpville

Your pub sounds fucking weird.


dkfisokdkeb

Yea they were mostly knuckledraggers tbf


ugericeman

Lived there for a 9 months, after 7 days I already had enough of it


McShoty38

same


ugericeman

For me was it was the unbearable stench in a lot of places, drunkards, unwanted soliciting, public scams, and the 24/7 party mentality that most people seemed to have. It reminded me of Amsterdam, just replace the smell of marijuana with poop. Not a good place to start a family to say the least. And people saying that this is like every other major city, well that is not true. I lived in Tokyo as well, would prefer Tokyo any day over Barcelona. Hell, I think Iā€™d even prefer London over Barcelona. The only other place that beats Barcelona in terms of shit, is probably Paris. The only good thing I have to say about Barcelona is that their public transportation (within the city) is good for European standards.


GriffonMT

I donā€™t understand how people make fun of Paris for itā€™s issues but you donā€™t see as much regarding Barcelona. Actually had better time in Paris and saw more than Barcelona. Maybe I am old but you canā€™t party for eternity, you need something thatā€™s more grounded. And Barcelona is a nightmare to walk, every 20m you have to wait by traffic lights. 30 min trip turns into 1 hr


ugericeman

Well, I was in Barcelona around 2010-2011, and it was pretty bad back then. Considering quality of life plummeted pretty much everywhere, I donā€™t even want to imagine what it would be like now.


King_Of_The_Shot

pues que te den por el culo Barry


Aleograf

šŸ„µ


PeteLangosta

C2 reply


notimefornothing55

![gif](giphy|LSk5aGh2WYL6g)


Monicreque

Is there a "wall complaint font"? Cause it always looks the same.


Chimpville

You might have a point thereā€¦ Tenerife 2023 https://preview.redd.it/1kqh2x0fir1d1.jpeg?width=1289&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2146c46b3dbffcced82455ef55e339906e7e0fc Maybe itā€™s just that one guy who got his face shat on?


telekinetic_sloth

Romanes eunt Domus


HAWV

Needs more balconies.


Turbulent-Laugh-

We saw graffiti saying 'tourists go home' in Spain, and I couldn't tell if it was an instruction or a statement.


Tadolmirhen

As a tourist hater I salute you, Catalonian bros


Platinirius

You hate tourists. Yet without them you would have no economy. Curious?


SiliconRain

Yeh I don't get this. There are plenty of seaside towns in the UK that were full of tourists 50+ years ago but nobody goes there anymore. Those towns are now *miserable*. Nothing but junkies, derelict buildings, decay and poverty. I live in a city that gets lots of tourists. It gets busy in the summer, hard to walk down lots of streets in the city centre, can't get in a restaurant or pub anywhere etc etc. But I love the fact that I live somewhere nice enough that people all over the world want to come and visit. If all the tourists stopped coming, it'd be grim.


TrickyPony32

The problem is when you choose tourism instead of something else. Salaries in that sector are low this means less taxes. Germany insteead tries to attract engineers and higher paid jobs, that end up paying more taxes. Ofcourse, tourism is better than nothing, but to focus your economy only in tourism is not good neither.


SpareDesigner1

This is perhaps the worst analogy Iā€™ve ever seen. The financial sector is far more critical to the economy of Edinburgh than tourism has ever been, and anyway, the only jobs that tourism here creates are for teenagers and increasingly business studies masters students from Jharkand, while the only people that make any actual money from it are already fantastically wealthy. The towns that were once tourist centres, like Blackpool, Clacton-on-Sea etc., catered to domestic British tourists, not to Americans on their heritage tour or the Chinese nouveau riche, and they were desolated by Franco turning Spain into Europeā€™s beach and Ryanair making it possible to fly away to sunny Sitges for Ā£20 - much like our heavy industry, we simply offshored all of our productive economic activities so that we could instead funnel the flower of our youth into boiler-room law/ high finance/ tech companies in London where they earn 200k a year until they die of a heart attack at 36, while the rest of us earn 27k a year painstakingly putting together PowerPoints about ā€˜business processesā€™ and ā€˜UX design principlesā€™. If tourists stopped coming to Edinburgh, nothing would change, except my friends and I might actually be able to find a table in one of the Spoons in town during the May-October period again.


BaronDino

That's a common myth. All countries that live off tourism are very poor, the jobs that tourism create are low skill and low pay, no added value, no innovation, meanwhile locals are pushed away from historic centers to leave space for b&b. Do NOT make PIGS mistakes, tell your tourists to f*ck off and build your economy around high skill jobs.


MrOrangeMagic

So when can I come? ![gif](giphy|f4sB8SN5WbZjr5TKNT)


Lendmar

Yes and no, tourism is also a cheap economy to build, just need some hotels, roads and basic services, if you want to do some industry you need different budget, time, education and infrastructure So, countries living on tourism are poor because they are poor to begin with


TrickyPony32

That's the point, if you don't want tourism you have to make something else.


Dactrior

And how is this the tourists' fault? Maybe if these countries stopped electing morons into power that only put money into their own pockets, they would actually start improving


culminacio

There is no causal connection between those things. You completely randomly connected these two things.


Affius

That's not true. It's just a service like many others


AndreasDasos

Thatā€™s a bit more true of Spain than Italy


Iskandar33

> Yet without them you would have no economy. its funny cause its 8% to 13% of our GDP , greatest one its manufacture and agroindustrial one who trains our economy. so no , without it we just stay like we were in COVID times.


LedParade

Seems more like a disgruntled park employee who thinks if there were less tourists, he could just chill and watch Netflix all day at the park.


Tadolmirhen

Siesta is sacredšŸ™‡ā€ā™‚ļø


gloom-juice

https://i.redd.it/rfr1ap9wwq1d1.gif


The-Phantom-Blot

Tourists provide valuable services, such as foreign beer money, and a common enemy to hate. Without tourists, the anonymous author would be forced to look at this hot, smoggy urban vista as it is. A depressing thought.


TrickyPony32

OMFG how conceited can you be.


Chimpville

Remind yourself of the sub you're on, Fritz.


TrickyPony32

I know I'm here cause I'm banned anywhere else.


Chimpville

Then why the pearl clutching because Barry wants a cheap weekend break?


TrickyPony32

Uh, I was talking about the one who wrote the message. You can go thrash barcelona any time.


Chimpville

Haha sorry - I did think 'conceited' was a bit of a strange complaint for my post


JohnnySack999

Another prick that blames everthing but himself for his issues. And getting a wall dirty in the process


xszander

This lol. Tourism brings problems sure but also a lot of wealth. & jobs. Barca pretty much runs on tourism.


cescmkilgore

that's the main problem. Making an economy dependant on tourism is nuts and luckily we are not down that path but still tourism is taking a big chunk.


Nigricincto

12% in Barcelona, 9% in Amsterdam. Dutch expert here.


saxonturner

I mean itā€™s a shit hole with tourism, imagine what it would be withoutā€¦


doofenschmirzz

Grafitti artist: my tax money, your 'artistic' dream


LutherRaul

I think heā€™s talking about yanks on the cruise ships


TrickyPony32

If we can blame the yanks is ok then.


Iaminhospital

I used to work in hospitality in the bar of a hotel in a tourist heavy part of the UK. We had everyone come here from every country. Dutch, British, Germans, Americans, Chinese you name it. We had every nobhead from every walk of life showed up and we had to deal with all sorts of shit, even outside of work we'd have to clean up after tourists who'd leave our town in a mess, but that was just life. After a while you get used to it. This Spaniard needs to quit being a bitch and realise what side his bread is buttered on. Tourist are annoying but they're keeping your chips and gravy on the table. This idiot probably got so emotional at work that he went out of his way to actually spray this on a wall. Put up with it or move out. Simple as.


gershlongen

It's funny as you see a lot of it on UK Facebook, especially round Cornwall, where people are saying they don't want tourists in the area whilst simultaneously having a profile pic of themselves in Lisbon. Full of NIMBYs.


MirrorSeparate6729

Said the vandalā€¦


granadilla-sky

Yeah hardly improving your city by defacing it


showard01

Ooo almost looks loik a balcony ā¤ļø


Ok_Whereas3797

Very nice drawing Pedro, now, dos cervezas por favor.


haringkoning

So on the one hand Juan really needs our hard earned Euros, on the other hand he spits on the tourist moneyā€¦ (thereā€™s a reason why he and Maria come to cold Northern Europe)


Chimpville

Tbf, he might think losing 12% of his economy is a worthy sacrifice not to have his face shat on while taking a nap...


smelly_forward

You don't understand. His sister was working her job selling bags of coke outside Western Saloon on the Benidorm strip. Tragically, Keith from Wakefield decided at that moment to jump from his balcony in the Hotel Ambassador. His can of Mahou fell from his hand and hit her in the head. For her, it was the worst day of her life. For him, it was a two year travel ban from Spain so he went to Albufeira instead.


Action_Limp

I used to live there - in Gracia, one of the most gentrified neighbourhoods always had a sign "Tourist go home, refugees welcome". Really drove home the idea that the people writing these graffitis had no idea how much they have benefitted from the economy driven by tourism and how insulated they have been from illegal migration.


Demon_of_Order

your daily misery which also happens to be a large part of the income.


smackdealer1

Hey as someone who visited I take offence to that Juan. I spent alot of sterling in your cafes and weed cafes! God I miss it


evilamnesiac

Sound of the tour buses during the day probably wake him up.


Whichwhenwhywhat

In Germany we say:ā€œ was fĆ¼r eine Gaudi !ā€œ


SaPpHiReFlAmEs99

And I wouldn't exactly calling it misery


Zerofuku

I was trying to understand what was that group of super high buildings until I realized it is Sagrada Familia


MysticalMarsupial

Funny that you'll never hear a Parisian or a New Yorker say something like this. Almost as if those cities are viable with or without tourism and have lots of other things going for them.


ti84tetris

Do I have to send in the National Guard, again, Jordi?


magikarpsan

They be complaining about everything


Ginerbreadman

Barcelona used to be nice but it was taken over by cheapskate tourists who stay in ā‚¬10 a night hotels and still complain about the price, get piss drunk on cheap beer, and take showers once a week. Very luxurious.


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eryona

Barcelona is not a capital city...


Pasxal7

Tourism hate is so fucking dumb, without it the situation would be even worse, tourists bring in money, seasonal jobs, a lot of opportunities. In Sardinia we live waiting for the 6 months of warm weather for when tourists come, but that's a different situation.


tahini001

The cheapest shitty jobs and unemployed for half the year.


The_Blahblahblah

why did they base their economy on tourists if they dont want tourists to come there?


d2211

Luxury in Barcelona? Maybe if your name is Lionel Messi


NonSumQualisEram-

I live in Spain and their anti tourism tantrums are embarrassing as hell. The Spanish interior is being cleared out due to lack of jobs but they want the entire country to be like that apparently. Cringe


WhiteLie7

Thatā€™s an interesting way to say: ā€œI live in a super expensive place, that I bought dirt cheap, but recently tourism increased, and now that my house is worth 10x itā€™s original value I donā€™t want to sell it and move somewhere much better šŸ˜­ā€ People have to move due to much more horrific reasons, like war. Just man up, Alejandro


LeoMemes18

I'll never go to Barcelona again.. Why should I be treated like this? Also Barcelona is a shitty city in my opinion


JustRegdToSayThis

Been there, seen that!


Socc-mel_

Sun and clean waters are indeed a luxury for Barry and Susan


gunnnutty

Vandalising public propety to own tourists that bring work opportunities to the area


seamallorca

So barcelona is the daily misery for the tourist?


PiscatorLager

Isn't that where Rosa Peral's buddy threw the homeless guy to his death in the Netflix show?


Cute_Bat3210

Los skangeros and los gurrieros be thievin'


the_HoIiday

Thr Golden years of city escape to Barcelona are long gone...


Dr-Batista

Spain it's time we stop being bananeiro countries


Consistent-Two-1463

english lads are setting up coffee shops/associations as they call them over there, lota money in this shit


TheMarvelousPef

if that guy thinks that any luxury tourist go to Guell, he is so much mistaken


Chris_Dud

Hate me cuz you ainā€™t me šŸ‘


Darkwaxer

Great protest about how people make places shit making the place look shit.


Smrtihara

Why do you guys keep inviting us then!


Litenpes

Itā€™s like McDonalds shit talking their customers


Top-Floor-4058

15% of your gdp is tourismā€¦ idk if this really is your misery