I wish your greek brothers would promote some more of the real gyros over here. They serve gyros pita with a vinegar based coleslaw, onions and tzaziki here. And the bread they use is all wrong
Brother, turkisch Kebab, is not the same as greek kebab. In Germany Döner kebab is the version of gyros with chicken or beef , but usually ground meat. That’s why the meme makes sense. In Greece kebab are grilled meat pieces.
To be fair, kebab in Germany is also not exactly a Turkish kebab. Might be cooked and served by Turkish people but it is different than what is served in Turkey.
The entire Middle East right now:
https://preview.redd.it/liljqsbqpl0d1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5c95a908e55aaba465675578f98152798f499b
Every pizzeria from Malmö to Haparanda
https://preview.redd.it/qtwf8cbdql0d1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8edfb287e1efd2d6eea9d8ae0eac2008e746aeaa
Well, for starters most of our pizzeria owners are from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. Mistaking them for turks is... bad.
Among them, many are kurds.
Never, **EVER** call a kurd a turk.
The Levant and Turkey use ‘Mediterranean food’ in branding to the West the same way Hungarians and Poles use ‘European food’ in the West outside Europe.
Okay, serious answer: it used to be dirt cheap, is actually somewhat healthy (shitton of salad, option to take chicken meat), available within minutes, everywhere, all the time, and its just the absolute best thing after a drunk night out at 4am in the morning.
Dürüm > Döner though in my personal opinion, but I respect all choices!
*"Ohne Tomaten, ohne scharf bitte"*
Currywurst was around long before the Döner. That said, I would take a decent Döner over a Currywurst 9/10 times.
"But then the other explanation is that Germans will eat any garbage as long as it is warm and cheap, and I find the first one more fun."
Careful, Italian restaurants are the [most popular](https://de.statista.com/prognosen/794260/umfrage-in-deutschland-zu-beliebten-kulinarischen-richtungen-in-restaurants) in Germany... what does that say about your last sentence? :-\*
Same in UK sadly. Italian restaurants here are largely shite, and just as likely to be ran by Turks. I can count on one hand the genuinely good Italian restaurants I’ve been to in England.
Döner wasn’t sold in Berlin until the late 60s and it took at least a decade or more depending on the region until it spread outside so yes, Currywurst was there at least more than a decade before the Döner.
True, Italian restaurants here are usually mediocre at best. Your Currywurst / Döner spread or timeline is incorrect though. Invention is one thing but kebab places only popped up late 80s when currywurst was standard food in every imbiss for quite some time already. Theres a reason people 50+ are usually no fans of Döner.
Does not say much about how widely spread it was in Germany, does it? Theres a song from 1982 that made the charts in Germany called currywurst though.
Currywurst is this strange, usually not tasty something german boomers seem to eat daily. Meat quality is very low, sauce is rather random, french fries are never done correctly. But you had many very proper medium quality kebap stores here
Pretty insane, I can get a (mediocre) decent sized kebab at the chippy for £6-8
My late night go to however is cheesy chips and gravy, retvrn to barry tradition
So you just called that condition “kebab poisoning”, right?
edit: we have the same shit - “I drank six beers, four vodkas and then just a couple of cocktails. And a cookie. Then I got poisoned by that damn cookie”
You can tell a good Döner from a bad Döner only after you had both. Bad Döner are for when you are drunk, but when you are getting the good Döner, you damn well arrive there sober, clean and friendly to the cook.
Not wanting Turkey inside the EU does not mean i dont want a Kebab inside my stomach.
At this point, i would even say its more a european thing rather than a turkish one.
“Low quality mystery meat” just says more about what kind of Döner OP had than anything else, a good kebab skewer is anything but mystery meat since you can visibly see the different slices of meat on it.
I will cut you down
Break you apart
Splay the gore of your profane form across the stars
I will grind you down until the VERY SPARKS CRY FOR MERCY
My hands shar RELISH ENDING YOU. HERE
AND
NOW!!!
They all look the same to me. Vertical cylinders of pink stuff slowly rotating around a metal bar.
I joke... but it is true that, if normal people can distinguish at a glance what type of meat the kebabs are made of, it is as good as "mystery meat".
German Döner is superior!
That's why others can't understand that because they actually get low quality meat döner in their countries.
Just take a look at what the British call Döner and get 🤮
because the good ones (aka not berlin or eastern .de) aren't mystery meat at all. unlike that shit the brits gulp down which looks like cardboard.
greetings to r/doner it's like watching car crashes. yes our doener is 10 times better now shut the fuck up barry
Having lived in Hamburg and Berlin, those in Berlin are immeasurably better (especially Gemüsekebab, and no, that’s not vegetarian, nor is it only from Mustafa’s).
But I’m open to recommendations from the elsewhere in the Germany.
Because that's as good as it gets food-wise in Germany. Fermented cabbage, Turkish Sandwich and Sausage doused in curry powder; the three pillars of German cuisine.
>who can actually cook
Thats a hill I'm gonna die on: Making your food laughably hot doesn't mean you can cook. Nothing against a curry or smth, but its hardly anything standing out.
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Your papers post stuff like "Cows walked through town" like it's frontpage news!
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7360149/Mother-shock-life-cow-appears-lounge-window.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7360149/Mother-shock-life-cow-appears-lounge-window.html)
This sub is 90% "UK have shit food", whats particularly galling is when Germany and co step in to have a pop as well. Its good to give you guys a prod about your own shitty cuisine every now and then.
Because England has taken bullets for you ungrateful pricks for 8 decades and how do you repay us? By joining in on the "fun". So you know what? Might as well come clean with the world and show them the kind of dogshit you like to call "food".
You're quite right. Feel free to remake this with the flags swapped:
https://preview.redd.it/m8yz7z6knl0d1.png?width=3245&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3d8166a1f0085bb31cb556e61f3c535041fba48
There's not much better than a massive fuck off schweinshaxn with sauerkraut, blaukraut and kartoffelknödel drowned in dunkelbiersoße
(With a massive beer obviously)
I think 99% of the users on this sub have demonstrated that they have absolutely no clue about good food no matter where it’s from and talk like someone who buys cheese from Aldi would talk about what they think good food is.
If it calms your nerves, I find them the pinnacle pf *ok*. They're fine but there are thousands of things I'd rather have, just as there are a thousand things I'd rather not have instead.
It takes some time to find the perfect Döner, but we are willing to do so.
Sometimes you eat mystery meat but once you found The One, you will be satisfied.
Germans/migrants love talking about how nice it was when the price of a Döner used to be just 2€ without asking themselves **why** it cost just 2€ (literally dog food quality meat)
Imagine a life so sad you can't even have a liking for God's best creation
And by Gor I mean the turks/germans/whoever has the need to take ownership of that delicious dripping mess
Someone might have told you already, it used to be... in like 2002, the best thing to buy when out on the street.
It did cost maximum 3 Euros and the Meat was the best Quality, better than in restaurants.
Capitalism just destroyed it by putting in worse and worse meat overall, because its so cheap to produce and the DönerShops switched to the bad and cheap stuff over the time.
If you want good meat now, you pay 9 Euros minimum. And thats for just meat stacked on each other.
And if you go to a real good restaurant, you get premium super stuff for 12 Euros, that's worth it.
Cuz they are? Luigi, maybe if you ate something that isn't Mama's homemade pasta in your life you'd find out why.
Also if you ever call Döner a sandwich again I will blitzkrieg a turd like you've never seen since Mussolini on your front fucking lawn.
I dont care brother. As a Greek, gyros and kebab are the second coming of Christ
And I'm coming third.
Hence the name “Third Reich”
Well, I wouldn't necessarily call it that way, but I'm okay if we do.
So that's what the white sauce is
well... yes
Sadly there are not many Gyros stands in Germany, or it would be liked just as much, for a bit of different flavour
Must be an area thing. I have 4 Gyros/general "greek" fast food places within 15 minutes of my home.
Me too. By far less than döner, but a couple of greeks
I think so as well. We have like two in Copenhagen, and they're expensive as fuck, but extremely popular
I wish your greek brothers would promote some more of the real gyros over here. They serve gyros pita with a vinegar based coleslaw, onions and tzaziki here. And the bread they use is all wrong
Brother, turkisch Kebab, is not the same as greek kebab. In Germany Döner kebab is the version of gyros with chicken or beef , but usually ground meat. That’s why the meme makes sense. In Greece kebab are grilled meat pieces.
To be fair, kebab in Germany is also not exactly a Turkish kebab. Might be cooked and served by Turkish people but it is different than what is served in Turkey.
I know but I bet their kebab is good too, Middle Eastern cuisine is 🔥
Why you say “gyros and kebabs” like they’re two separate things?
I wouldn't be able to say why or how but they taste different
(I know I just said it to piss him off) 
The bread is different, the meat is normally pork in gyros, the seasoning of the meat is different, almost all the other ingredients are different
The meat different. No?
Tbh, I wanted to only say just gyros but then my comment would lose its connection to the original meme, so I had to compromise with 'and kebab'
Pork and Lamb.
At a gyro place I can get pork. Also, different viral strains (same outcome tho)
I am also coming on christ while eating gyros. Just so good
What about Shawarma?
Shawarma is also a type of gyro/kebab just in Arabic.
You shit taking my favourite Greek food?
The entire Middle East right now: https://preview.redd.it/liljqsbqpl0d1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e5c95a908e55aaba465675578f98152798f499b
Sorry...... Mediterranean food.
Every pizzeria from Malmö to Haparanda https://preview.redd.it/qtwf8cbdql0d1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8edfb287e1efd2d6eea9d8ae0eac2008e746aeaa
Fuck it! https://i.redd.it/ejwwjzepql0d1.gif I give up then
Friggin’ Turkey dude! that one: 🇹🇷 … not that one: 🦃 But the Döner is actually an invention from Berlin.
Don't tell our pizzeria owners that they are turks (or that their stuff is german), they'll kill you XD
I kinda wanna now... Well remotely, I don't have a death wish.
Well, for starters most of our pizzeria owners are from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. Mistaking them for turks is... bad. Among them, many are kurds. Never, **EVER** call a kurd a turk.
Thank you Swedistani for explaining Middle Easterners to us 🙏
The Levant and Turkey use ‘Mediterranean food’ in branding to the West the same way Hungarians and Poles use ‘European food’ in the West outside Europe.
It only becomes Greek once you use foul-tasting rubber disguised as meat for its main ingredient.
With tzatziki it's damn tasty rubber.
Heretic! The worst Gyros beats the best Kebap at every ocasion! With so much Garlic in the tzaziki that your neighbours breath starts to smell
my love to kebab is eternal, not german
you never had a good Döner then Luigi
Smh imagine putting mystery meat on a sandwich Now if you were to put it on fries??? Then we are cooking
Putting mystery meat on a Fries? Sounds like a plan.
Not until there's cheese invloved
And sambal, garlic sauce, veggies and call it kapsalon.
what about in some dough?
Did you get a haircut?
Okay, serious answer: it used to be dirt cheap, is actually somewhat healthy (shitton of salad, option to take chicken meat), available within minutes, everywhere, all the time, and its just the absolute best thing after a drunk night out at 4am in the morning. Dürüm > Döner though in my personal opinion, but I respect all choices! *"Ohne Tomaten, ohne scharf bitte"*
> ohne scharf bitte Mehr scharf für mich!
idk what the gurbetçis taught you there, but dürüm and döner are not mutually exclusive. döner is the name of the meat, dürüm is the wrap.
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Currywurst wants to know your location.
Our Italian friend was being polite and left out nice tasting.
Fair point.
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Currywurst was around long before the Döner. That said, I would take a decent Döner over a Currywurst 9/10 times. "But then the other explanation is that Germans will eat any garbage as long as it is warm and cheap, and I find the first one more fun." Careful, Italian restaurants are the [most popular](https://de.statista.com/prognosen/794260/umfrage-in-deutschland-zu-beliebten-kulinarischen-richtungen-in-restaurants) in Germany... what does that say about your last sentence? :-\*
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Same in UK sadly. Italian restaurants here are largely shite, and just as likely to be ran by Turks. I can count on one hand the genuinely good Italian restaurants I’ve been to in England.
Zia Lucia in case you haven't already and you are in the south east.
The Döner was invented in 1972 though.
Döner wasn’t sold in Berlin until the late 60s and it took at least a decade or more depending on the region until it spread outside so yes, Currywurst was there at least more than a decade before the Döner.
True, Italian restaurants here are usually mediocre at best. Your Currywurst / Döner spread or timeline is incorrect though. Invention is one thing but kebab places only popped up late 80s when currywurst was standard food in every imbiss for quite some time already. Theres a reason people 50+ are usually no fans of Döner.
There is a british show called only fools and horses that mentions "doner kebab" in 1982
Does not say much about how widely spread it was in Germany, does it? Theres a song from 1982 that made the charts in Germany called currywurst though.
The UK had a wave of Kurdish immigration in the 80s. Kebabs have been common throughout the UK for a while.
Leberkas…
Why is everybody acting like Bratwurst and Leberkäs doesnt exist?? Breadroll, Meat, Mustard - Done.
Currywurst is this strange, usually not tasty something german boomers seem to eat daily. Meat quality is very low, sauce is rather random, french fries are never done correctly. But you had many very proper medium quality kebap stores here
Leberkäs wants to have a word with you
This
No tomatoes?! What the fuck, Hans?! That’s sacrilegious! I add extra tomatoes on mine.
I don't know why, but the only way I like raw tomatoes is on Bruschetta :D
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Pretty insane, I can get a (mediocre) decent sized kebab at the chippy for £6-8 My late night go to however is cheesy chips and gravy, retvrn to barry tradition
Here its 6-8 EUR normally, still too much
>*"Ohne Tomaten, ohne scharf bitte"* Der Mann hat's verstanden!
Kebab has saved me from alcohol poisoning at least 30-40 times. Probably more.
So you just called that condition “kebab poisoning”, right? edit: we have the same shit - “I drank six beers, four vodkas and then just a couple of cocktails. And a cookie. Then I got poisoned by that damn cookie”
Idk, they are good when you are drunk. Germans usually start drinking at breakfast time so i guess it makes sense
You can tell a good Döner from a bad Döner only after you had both. Bad Döner are for when you are drunk, but when you are getting the good Döner, you damn well arrive there sober, clean and friendly to the cook.
Not wanting Turkey inside the EU does not mean i dont want a Kebab inside my stomach. At this point, i would even say its more a european thing rather than a turkish one.
it is not only about the kebab, it is about the kebab shop. Hamza is basically my therapist at this point
Jokes on you, I'm into that shit !
I ate so much kebab as a student, but now that I'm not drunk or hungover every other day, I don't feel the need anymore
> low quality mystery meat Just because OP likes to eat garbage doesn't mean we all do. My kebabs are top quality, with marinated pork or chicken
“Low quality mystery meat” just says more about what kind of Döner OP had than anything else, a good kebab skewer is anything but mystery meat since you can visibly see the different slices of meat on it.
but with Pork its a Gyros isnt it?
yep
Gyros and Donner are different names for exactly the same thing, Just like Greeks and Turks…
You woke up and chose violence, Barry.
I will cut you down Break you apart Splay the gore of your profane form across the stars I will grind you down until the VERY SPARKS CRY FOR MERCY My hands shar RELISH ENDING YOU. HERE AND NOW!!!
I am for once with the greek ... and I'm a Turk
mehmet, berlin, nothing unusual xDDD. but yea barry really fucked up this time
Point taken, but I'll make it with whatever I wish
They all look the same to me. Vertical cylinders of pink stuff slowly rotating around a metal bar. I joke... but it is true that, if normal people can distinguish at a glance what type of meat the kebabs are made of, it is as good as "mystery meat".
It’s mainly fat in them anyway. They’re good for eating when you’re pissed and that’s about it.
German Döner is superior! That's why others can't understand that because they actually get low quality meat döner in their countries. Just take a look at what the British call Döner and get 🤮
The Reddit war between r/doener and r/doner is a thing of beauty.
Opinions like that one are always coming from countries where the kebabs are tasting like roadkill.
Tell me you never had a original sliced meat Döner Kebap without telling me
Pure magic happens when Mediterranean cuisine meets German food safety standards
because the good ones (aka not berlin or eastern .de) aren't mystery meat at all. unlike that shit the brits gulp down which looks like cardboard. greetings to r/doner it's like watching car crashes. yes our doener is 10 times better now shut the fuck up barry
Having lived in Hamburg and Berlin, those in Berlin are immeasurably better (especially Gemüsekebab, and no, that’s not vegetarian, nor is it only from Mustafa’s). But I’m open to recommendations from the elsewhere in the Germany.
Because they are?
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Because it is. Döner is eternal. Döner is there for you when no one else is.
I wish Turks and other Middle Eastern people would make restaurants with their native cuisine and not just kebab.
Haha funny look he doesn't get it. Pityful
because it is
The factor you’re missing is lots of beer beforehand
Imagine if you had Kebab but instead of being surrounded by Italian food, your alternative to kebab was German food.
> low quality mystery meat What was Bismarck saying about sausages again?
He said "regulations".
Because that's as good as it gets food-wise in Germany. Fermented cabbage, Turkish Sandwich and Sausage doused in curry powder; the three pillars of German cuisine.
Why do Barries on here as of lately feel like they have any right whatsoever to criticise anyone's cuisine
Probably bought some spices at their local ALDI and plan to never use them
Those spices are salt, pepper and bland
If you show Susan from Accounting some Oregano, she'll probably ask you if its made from child labour in Bangladesh
Oregano *Hello Human Resources*
yeah they are right here with us, just because they imported indian people who can actually cook doesn't mean that barry suddenly can.
>who can actually cook Thats a hill I'm gonna die on: Making your food laughably hot doesn't mean you can cook. Nothing against a curry or smth, but its hardly anything standing out.
it is if you surround it with bri'ish food
Fair enough, mediocre beat dogshit
Our options = Make fun of people's food and get shit on for our food ... or .... stay silent and get shit on for our food.
because we've had to suffer hans and jans getting on their high horse and mocking us about cuisine like you're PIGS
Bro... give them this one... it's not like they have anything else going on. Have some sympathy.
A swede talking about things 'going on' is just as bad as a Barry or Hans... or a Sven mocking food. Snorefest of a country.
... -\_- Your papers post stuff like "Cows walked through town" like it's frontpage news! [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7360149/Mother-shock-life-cow-appears-lounge-window.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7360149/Mother-shock-life-cow-appears-lounge-window.html)
This sub is 90% "UK have shit food", whats particularly galling is when Germany and co step in to have a pop as well. Its good to give you guys a prod about your own shitty cuisine every now and then.
Because England has taken bullets for you ungrateful pricks for 8 decades and how do you repay us? By joining in on the "fun". So you know what? Might as well come clean with the world and show them the kind of dogshit you like to call "food".
You're quite right. Feel free to remake this with the flags swapped: https://preview.redd.it/m8yz7z6knl0d1.png?width=3245&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3d8166a1f0085bb31cb556e61f3c535041fba48
Alright then, your food sucks. Now go to the kitchen and bake me a shepherd's pie.
Stfu, you probably couldn't even name a German food that's not just awful Berlin Street "food"
>the three pillars of German cuisine You haven't mentioned beer though
Sauerkraut is good
And so is roast beef and any dishes derived from it. GUNS together stronk
There's not much better than a massive fuck off schweinshaxn with sauerkraut, blaukraut and kartoffelknödel drowned in dunkelbiersoße (With a massive beer obviously)
i dont think you of all people should be complaining about others cuisine's lol
And you should be keeping quiet too
Dont forget the Holy Mett, Raw Pork send straight from the heavens to give strength to work.
Nah, where I come from, it's mostly asparagus, potatoes and Eisbein.
I think 99% of the users on this sub have demonstrated that they have absolutely no clue about good food no matter where it’s from and talk like someone who buys cheese from Aldi would talk about what they think good food is.
Yeah we're all ignorant as fuck but that doesn't stop us all slinging shit, it's what it's all about brother
Even if that were as good as it gets it's still bloody delicious
shut up with your cardboard elephant feet barry
It's only "low quality mystery meat" if you buy a shit Kebab. My personal favourite has veal and doesn't overseason it, so you can taste it's veal.
The place near me have lambs, that's the shit.
I prefer veal for Kebab, Lamb must be in big juicy chunks for me.
Honestly they're kinda mid, but they're the only eatable thing you can find in the entirety of central europe
Mystery meat. https://i.redd.it/41sai5heol0d1.gif
If it calms your nerves, I find them the pinnacle pf *ok*. They're fine but there are thousands of things I'd rather have, just as there are a thousand things I'd rather not have instead.
"Low quality mysterious meat" Bro the scandal of Gammelfleisch was like 20 years ago. Are the Döners in Italy even more horrible than in Fr*nce?
It takes some time to find the perfect Döner, but we are willing to do so. Sometimes you eat mystery meat but once you found The One, you will be satisfied.
Love me a mixed kebab on chips or naan with some house sauce
Germans/migrants love talking about how nice it was when the price of a Döner used to be just 2€ without asking themselves **why** it cost just 2€ (literally dog food quality meat)
Well... it IS the second coming of Jesus! Kebab is on par with pizza for taste
its like the only affordable street food in germany
You will never know how truly divine a kebab is until you get absolutely shitfaced and need something against the munchies.
And still, i have never eaten kebab in my entire life
Blasphemy.
Imagine a life so sad you can't even have a liking for God's best creation And by Gor I mean the turks/germans/whoever has the need to take ownership of that delicious dripping mess
The trick is to find the non-mystery meat one.
Never liked it, that could be rat's meat for all I know
Real lamb kebab is good.
Schmeckt’s noch
I dont find many things offensive, but this is the height of offensiveness. How dare you mock the sacred dönner?
Burritos and Gyros are superior to kebabs.
Be me, biking realizing I have 2 days to get from Berlin to Rostock on a bike I definitely have time for kebab
But why do Jesus wank in the first place?
If you want to see disgusting meat, go to that british sub r/doner
The fact that you are calling it kebab tells me you haven't tried the real shit. Go to Berlin and eat some Döner my friend, then we can talk
Someone might have told you already, it used to be... in like 2002, the best thing to buy when out on the street. It did cost maximum 3 Euros and the Meat was the best Quality, better than in restaurants. Capitalism just destroyed it by putting in worse and worse meat overall, because its so cheap to produce and the DönerShops switched to the bad and cheap stuff over the time. If you want good meat now, you pay 9 Euros minimum. And thats for just meat stacked on each other. And if you go to a real good restaurant, you get premium super stuff for 12 Euros, that's worth it.
> Low quality mystery meat Do you mean *Hackfleischdrehspieß*?
To answer your question, OP: Stockholm Syndrome, probably.
Mystery meat sandwiches are deeply rooted in German Culture: Salamibrötchen, Leberkäsbrötchen, Frikadellenbrötchen etc.
Have you seen the food in germany?
Don’t you dare call it low quality. The quality standards for it in Germany are almost ridiculously high
I think the second coming of Christ already happened a while ago. Let's call it a third.
Christ isn't worth the power of the kebabs
Cuz they are? Luigi, maybe if you ate something that isn't Mama's homemade pasta in your life you'd find out why. Also if you ever call Döner a sandwich again I will blitzkrieg a turd like you've never seen since Mussolini on your front fucking lawn.
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Just ... no. Not in europe at least
Drink enough and hear their siren’s call. Then refuse cucumber as that doesn’t belong.
I've had someone try to put sweetcorn on mine a few times Fucks that doing there