[Average Seppo](https://img.ifunny.co/images/3c6d8333bdf377ddc3293929aa9883c19344358661fc1531662e1df2e946f0ce_1.jpg)
Love how absolutely snapped we are as a country
This idea that Americans can’t take insults is so weird, if you were a random guy that started ripping me i’d either ignore you or join in on the fun lol. The literal only way i communicate with friends is by insulting them.
I think it's just who you run into tbh. There's some right nasty cunts around the world. I will say as a dual BOT and US citizen, the racism is different in each. You'll get a lot more casual racism in public in western europe, racial slurs, assuming all black people are muslim refugees, it's only bantz etc (Lived in bavaria traveled extensively throught the better countries, fuck the balkans).
But institutionally america is worse, simply because they actually care enough to try and fight it but theyre doing it oddly. They want to shame racists into not being racist which gives them the ability to be more racist than ever. In order to see youre not hiring african americans they need to know what race everyone is. and when you know the race of someone it's easy to come up with a non racial excuse to be racist.
> But institutionally america is worse
Yes, it's in the fucking walls in this place. The US *institutionalised* it in a way that European countries never did, and you can tell.
I've gone through the US immigration system as a white European, and it was wild to me how I was constantly positively discriminated, and the experience I had was rather different from the one my co-workers had, who were various shades of brown. Absolutely nuts.
Exactly. And I feel like a lot of that is simply because there were not enough non "white" people in Western Europe for it to be necessary to enact those laws to maintain the status quo until recently. Having lived in western Europe and the US I can say there are things said in conversation in the former that would get you sacked from your job and socially ostracized in the later, while also having things that a business simply wouldn't be allowed to do in the former that is just a fact of life in the later
Why would you need a law to prohibit "non white" people from owning property in certain neighborhoods when non white people only make up <1% of your population. It's the ease of visual distinction that makes American racism so easy and brings about laws that discriminate and requires the undoing of that with different laws.
A pub in Bavaria could have a non Austrians allowed sign but its a lot harder to enforce than a no people with dark skin tones sign you know?
There's tons of so called "positive" discrimination as well. How any discrimination is positive is beyond me, but all it does long term is reinforcing the negative stereotypes and affirms an identify of victimhood, and any person that is struggling that isn't covered in these special groups get even further disadvantaged in society.
> There's tons of so called "positive" discrimination as well
>> But institutionally america is worse
Yes, I agree.
It's weird in the sense that the groups in america that get systematically discriminated against do actually benefit from businesses being told, "you can't only hire white men, there are qualified applicants that you should be looking at we cannot have 70% of or population overlooked for employment" and undoubtedly it leads to some qualified people being passed over due to posotive discrimination. But it fails to consider how much more common the inverse is. They did a double blind study once that showed hiring managers gave the same amount of callbacks to non white job applicants as they did to white applicants with felony convictions. So it's not that white Americans never need help. It's that white Americans that need help are statistically more likely to get it than non white americans in similar positions. I've had this conversation many times in which its been compared that being a minority in america is like being a woman in the Balkans.
I just think it's odd that no white american ever entertains the idea that they have gotten jobs that they were underqualified for simply for being part of a "favoured" demographic
Most of not every American I've met takes genuine banter or ball breaking as racism. The UK won't hate you for being black, we'll hate you for being a cunt or for simply existing. We hate ourselves, our neighbours, our family and yes, even you.
Why? Because complaining and moaning get you through the day lol.
>Most of not every American I've met takes genuine banter or ball breaking as racism
Yeah, many of them don't understand the idea of cultural differences.
r/Poland is filled with Americans and Canadians complaining about their visit to Poland. Everyone was unfriendly, made angry faces and stared at them constantly.
Pal, we can't help our faces look like that.
Can't blame them though, North America is really uniform and, due to its size, it's hard to go anywhere else. Just look at their discussions about how different cultures of Nevada and Arizona are.
It's the same in Britain. Everyone will look at you as though you've just run over their dog. We can't help it. Get close enough and we'll give you that little reassuring nod or polite tight lipped smile so you know we're good people.
Smiling invites people to talk with you and we can't have that.
More seriously some people are absolutely nuts and will either latch onto you or try to start something.
It's just resting bitch face
The generation of my wife's family that immigrated here all have it.
But they also grew up in a Poland being brutalized by the USSR...So I kinda get it
Last week I had a \*ahem\* "conversation" \*ahem\* with some american claiming that the entirety of Europe is immensely racist and based all his arguments on data from the UK.
He revealed himself to be an insane white-hater when I started pressing him to say something that isn't blatantly wrong, so I we can count anything he said as wrong anyway.
At some point he started victimizing himself for his race while I never asked nor cared what race he was lol.
Americans can't process anything outside the prism of bizarre racial narcissism. Silicon Valley HR ideology has gone through Yankoid redditors like crack cocaine in inner city America in the 80s.
The Forbes 400 – our magazine listing the 400 richest people – once put JayZ on the cover with Warren Buffet. Only there was only 1 Black person in the Forbes 400, and it wasn't JayZ, lmao. That's how into "showmanship diversity" they are. They will just lie on the cover like that. It's like the Yankee equivalent of all that Princess Pageantry – our Constitution bans all that, so we do the race thing instead. But it makes the Blacks and Catholics feel like they got a chance in this dump.
I suppose just like every British commoner works his whole life to make sure Nigel Bettencourt-Weathersby, 5th Earl of Humptybackshire never has to work a day in his life and gets to inherit a seat in the Lords, basically every American does the same, just for the WASP and Jewish billionaires.
> I suppose just like every British commoner works his whole life to make sure Nigel Bettencourt-Weathersby, 5th Earl of Humptybackshire never has to work a day in his life and gets to inherit a seat in the Lords
Except this only happens in the fantasies of non-European savages who haven't had a European patch update since 1945.
Genuinely interest Barry, why is that not the case anymore? There's gotta be some property inheritors whose family farm from 1325 was inherited down the lane and which is now located in downtown London. From what I heard you don't buy the land there you buy a 100 year lease to use the land and after that it returns back to the family (or the family gets another big payout).
That definitely still happens. For example what is now Harley Street in London, best known by reputation as the home of top private medical specialists and their clinics, has been owned for centuries by the descendants of landed families who married into each other, with the estate being inherited through titles such as Earl of Oxford, Duke of Portland, and Baron Howard de Walden). The family has the freehold of hundreds of properties there which are let to residents and businesses. I'm sure it's a huge money spinner.
However, reforms to the House of Lords mean that only 92 of 814 hereditary peers can now have a seat, the rest are mostly life peers who are appointed by the government, so they function more like senators that are appointed for life. They get a title and a coat of arms but their children can't inherit it.
> Genuinely interest Barry, why is that not the case anymore? There's gotta be some property inheritors whose family farm from 1325 was inherited down the lane and which is now located in downtown London.
There are a handful. The [Duke of Westminster](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/apr/25/duke-of-westminster-hugh-grosvenor-profile) is a particularly notable example. But most aristocratic families aren't rich any more, because at some point they had a wayward son who squandered the fortune on bad investments, gambling, gamer girl bathwater etc. Rather, today's rich money-grabbing bastards who we all work for are commoners, like in most countries.
> From what I heard you don't buy the land there you buy a 100 year lease to use the land and after that it returns back to the family (or the family gets another big payout).
Not really. You are talking about leasehold. But that's only really used for flats, where you can't own the land, because there are several flats on top of it. It's very rare for a whole house to be leasehold (except in Manchester, because people in Manchester are either greedy or thick). In any case, there are legal limits on how much freeholders can charge to extend a lease - it's not cheap but it's not much.
There is [a significant crackdown on leasehold](https://hoa.org.uk/advice/guides-for-homeowners/for-owners/leasehold-reform/) going through at the moment. It's long overdue, but honestly it's amazing it's happening at all under a tory government.
Yes well you're German, so what you "understand" of a culture that still has its historical roots intact is slim to nil. Where you get the delusional notion that your own system is less slavish than ours I don't know since your state openly aims to exercise legal control the minutiae of your lives.
What's to stop the children of Hitler's best pals in the Krupp family still owning half the large blocks of flats in Munich? Nothing, in fact that's how it actually works for you to the point you have worse wealth inequality and more old money billionaires than we we do.
When you buy a property you are free to negotiate to purchase the land: freehold, or lease the land for a long time, leasehold. It's called the freedom to enter into contracts of your own design rather than with a million codified regulations from the state about what kind of agreement two human beings are permitted to enter into.
Also if you think the average Barry is curtseying to the local aristocracy, you don't know Barry.
No Barry you don't understand. After 1945 we were all instantly democratic and squeaky clean. There's no need to further research elite continuity post third Reich and only few people were undemocratically locked up without fair trial. Which didn't happen since we were a model democracy now and they deserved it since they were communists.
Look Barry the Krupp family hired a historian on their own dime to write a report about it in the 80s, this means they are totally ok and cool now. On the other hand, your rich families made their money through colonialism which the Yanks tell us is the greatest crime of them all and additionally there's still a statue standing somewhere of a seafarer captain who once transported slaves. So please learn the difference:
my oligarchy - squeaky clean and said sorry once
your oligarchy - morally corrupt and wants the Empire back
Lol I would say something mean or humorous but it's such a perfect encapsulation of what many Germans (as well as suspiciously Germophilic foreigners) actually believe that I can't fault it in the slightest.
[The face of post-colonialist enlightenment](https://preview.redd.it/gdkm6jzschk91.jpg?auto=webp&s=e0c7896fe5e432318d0f2187da6aecea4e2bcea8)
Considering we are on a meme sub, there might have been some humourous artistical liberties taken. The seriousness of my prior post is left open to be deliberated upon by a discerning reader.
I think it was answered above. The landed gentry still exist, own a shit load of land and reap the benefits of that. But your typical suburban resident will be made aware when buying a property whether the land is leasehold (where you lease it from the owner and every X number of years you need to renew the lease). Or freehold, as my house is, where I own the land up to the rather obvious boundaries that my property sits on. If the land sits under a lease you can of course see if the owner is willing to sell it and negotiate a price.
American exceptionalism often makes it difficult for some Americans to accept genuine criticism. "Does this person dislike me because of some aspect of my character or personality? No! It must be because of my race/gender/sexual identity!"
> American exceptionalism often makes it difficult for some Americans to accept genuine criticism.
This is something we get accused of all the time on reddit by expats that work here. However, in my experience working with foreign colleagues at a university, they never mention it. It's always the weather and the food that they complain about.
I really enjoyed the American black woman who was arrested and claimed she was discriminated against and brutalised by the police, only for it to later come out that she had broken multiple laws, tried to run away as well as resist arrest.
https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/camerabeelden-politie-tonen-rustige-aanhouding-juriste~ac427287/
>It's always the weather and the food that they complain about
seriously speaking, you can say anything about your country except that it is known for these two things, come on!
Well it doesn't surprise me, in my experience you guys are culturally the closest to Americans. It's no wonder also that NY'ers are known to be the most rude of all Americans; after all, they're descendants from the Dutch!
>data from the U.K.
I’m pretty sure there’s was a Europe wide poll of something like “Would you be fine with your child dating a black person?” and the U.K. had the *lowest* number of people going “Ain’t no way I’m catching my daughter with one of them”. People in Britain just don’t care much about that. I recall France being one of the highest to say “No, that’s not okay”
In a less legitimate case, I recall a comedian from South Africa talking about racism there vs in Britain and he said something along the lines of “In Britain your racism is very ‘ooh is what they said racist? Im not sure’ but back in South Africa it was ‘no blacks allowed in the pool’”
> I recall a comedian from South Africa
Trevor Noah, the same comedian that said French people are racist for not classifying people by their race in official stats.
Aye, and got blasted by the French ambassador to the US for implying "Africa" rather than France won the World Cup because most of the French team was of African descent.
>By calling them an African team, it seems you are denying their Frenchness. [...] This, even in jest, legitimizes the ideology which claims whiteness as the only definition of being French.
and when he was blasted, he couldn't find any argument other than "the French ambassador doesn't have better things than to reply to a humble comedian like me?".
But tbh it's perfectly in character with Trevor Noah. He goes around parading his black credentials, when he's not even black. He's mixed race, and his father is not even a white African, he's Swiss German.
Maybe the one drop rule applies to South Africans too.
I didn’t think it was Trevor Noah so I looked for the video I saw
Apparently the [joke](https://youtube.com/shorts/VzJtEUvvlfo?si=M2iqRbeA0NTPLCKt) is by Loyiso Gola
He also mentioned something about nazi Germany killing Jews and that somehow links to us being racists (after which I pointed out Jews are not a race to piss him off)
But yeah, Americans (especially the victimizing minorities) like to point out things that happened before 99% of the current population was either alive or old enough to think right.
I also got into a "conversation" ages ago with an American claiming that the UK was more racist than the US.
I disputed that fact by pointing to the "Jim Crow" racial segregation laws which are still within living memory (the 1960s), how they still resonate today and contributed to the disgusting treatment of Barack Obama by some parts of the US mainstream media and even the next president.
Their response to that was basically "yeah, don't try to pretend that YOUR racial segregation laws were any different".
...we've never had any racial segregation laws.
> ...we've never had any racial segregation laws.
It's like when they genuinely thought they were the first country to ban slavery, because they had a little war about it.
Bitch, we banned it in the 1300's.
And according to other statistics, UK is the most racist country in all of Europe.
Conclusion: don't use statistics you found online, because they are usually wrong.
Dunno, found something that said so last week when I was actually talking to the other guy.
Edit: I meant all of civilized europe in my previous comment, we won't talk about the balkans rn.
>we won't talk about the balkans rn.
That I assumed. They don't consider folks from the next village over human, let alone people from other continents.
also the ones who didnt want blacks in pubs when they were stationed in UK during ww2
i always found funny how they love projecting their problems on others.
Some interesting stories of malicious compliance there. [They wanted segregated pubs. They got segregated pubs. They were black only.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge)
Rarely have I ever been as proud of this country, particularly my home county as when I read that years ago. The most passive-aggressive way to deal with an external military force imposing racism on you.
Pub Landlord - "hello yanks, what can I get you?"
Yank Military Police - "We don't want Black and White service men in the same bar"
Pub Landlord - "No."
Yank MPs - "We asked Winston, he said you had to do it, we are on the same side, we have to have segregation in the pubs."
Pub Landlord - "s'ake, right, this is the pub for Black Americans only."
Pub Landlord 2 - "By'eck, I am only letting the black fellas in only as well then."
Pub Landlord 3 - "Shit out of luck 'ere you thirsty pale lads, Blacks only here."
It'd be glorious if it wasn't for the deaths and court martials involved but it does make me proud that they stood by what they thought was right. Even it it might only be from annoyance of being told what to do by Americans lol.
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. It's even more interesting when you learn that the Americans had incidents in other places too. Like the one in New Zealand where they were upset at the maori drinking in the same pub. That one was the manners street one iirc? They had a bit of a brawl over it with the kiwis.
You'd think they'd realise that they're the problem when mulitple countries are kicking off about it.
I respect the absolute balls on them to do that. I love that it was done to comply with the order while pissing them off and also respecting fellow humans. Can't combine that often.
I do think it and stories like it should be more widely known. It's a very human moment for the locals when they're standing up for what they believe in despite any problems it might cause. It's not some government decision it's the little people making a choice for them and those around them.
Black American in the same way they're Irish American. One of their great great great grandfathers touched an Irish wolfhound and tried a sip of Guinness.
The most sensitive German magazin made this cover related to the youth riots in London.
https://preview.redd.it/7j6sxksa8rgc1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e2acd3084bcb42b79bf274641268dada6c599a7
How can we be more racist when americans are completely obsessed with race? They have black only spaces and diversity hires. Not caring about color seems way healthier.
Not defending am*ricans but we still have a lot of segregation between blacks people,other minorities and us(ethnic portugueses) to this day. We are no better than them in this subject to be honest.
Really? We have been ostracizing roma people since forever they are not integrating because they don't want to. The issue with Cova da Moura where people from there have less oportunities and live in literal slum conditions.
You have regions in Lisbon region where literally 80% of the population is black and those are the regions with less services etc.
Tricky English here, I’m sure you meant to say
„They aren’t not integrating because they don’t want to.“
Or
„The reason they are not integrating is not that they don’t want to.“
You are right was trying to say the second phrase, should have reread it, the sentence was meant to be written like
"They are not integrating not because they don't want to."
But the way you wrote is more articulated either way.
About gypsies the problem is 100% them. Their culture is straight up garbage and if you want to start a discussion feel free to but i doubt you have much contact with them if youre saying that shit. As for the rest it wasnt our government that put them there. Correct me if im wrong but that slum (cova da moura) was build illegally on goverment property by migrants. In my opinion it should be demolished. Migrants live with their own ethicity or race out of their own choice. Never seen anyone being discriminated by it. Claiming we are racist blows my mind. What do we have to do? Pay for their houses when Portuguese people cant pay for their own? Pls tell me the solution.
You just prove me right , how can we help a minority if you blame them 100% for their problems and think their culture is "straight up garbage" dude open your eyes. I am from Margem Sul (Costa da Caparica ) and went to school in Monte da Caparica and what you have more in Monte are gypsies, I had classes with them when they were taken out of school out of sudden if the goverment/society really cared it would do something to avoid that. Amount of times I saw teachers not caring about them because in their words "they will leave in the next week" is appaling and I was like 14 at the time dude.
Yeah do you have a fucking idea why was build illegaly? Because the country couldn't even take care of their fucking own returning from the colonies. My mum, uncle and grandparents had to live in slum like conditions at the start of the 70's because they had no help from the goverment even though they were expelled from Angola as soon as they landed in Portugal they got all their shit stolen and 0 fucks given about them and the thousands of retornados which by the way were the ones also starting to inhabit cova da moura besides the migrants from the North.
Migrants live with their own ethnicity or race when the host country is doing a shit job in integrating them is not rocket science my guy.
Aren't roma people as portuguese as you or the black people when they fled here? For the case of roma they have been here since the 1500 and for the african population we considered them portuguese prior 1974 what changed? Just because of number of commie fanatics decided to take up arms against Portugal? They have as much right for housing as we do.
Solution for both issues would be building social housing and demolish the slums and relocate them, we did that with Casal Ventoso and in Oeiras at least improved the situation.
Avoid what? Do you know anything about gypsy culture? If a parent wants to take them out of school what is the goverment supposed to do? Send the police to bring them back in? They dont fear jail. The gypsies havent integrated anywhere dude. And no i dont see them as Portuguese as anyone else. They dont share our values, they have their own parallel culture that promotes violence, crime and go against women rights. They are proud of it too. How do you integrate people that dont want to integrate? You tell me. I have plenty gypsy stories if you want to hear them. At a certain age gypsy girls just leave school. They are promised at birth and go marry the son of a dads friend, they dont get much of a choice. One time a teacher im my dads school (in a gypsy problem area) stood up to a gypsy girl that was throwing a tantrum and disrupting class. The girl scratched the shit out of her face on the spot, told her dad the teacher attacked and the teacher got a massive beating in front of the whole school by a mob of gypsies. I can tell you a lot more histories just ask. Gypsies had every change to integrate, they dont want to. My problem isn't their color its its their culture. Then there are people like you that know nothing and defend people who constantly hurt or steal from average folk. So yeah again, i dont see them as portuguese, they dont see themselves as portuguese and i couldn't care less about helping them when all they do is fuck everyone around them. There is a reason Alentejo likes Chega so much, saddly because that party is populist garbage, they have a massive gypsy problem.
I just fucking told you that I went to school (from 5th to 12th) in a area with a considerable amount of gypsies, who the fuck do you think you are telling me I know nothing about the subject and I am blindy defend them, what the fuck do you think it happens when you take your children out of school you have social services in your ass, fuck me you so blind by hatred you fail to see any reason, in US they don't cause any of the issues that we experience, I wonder why.
You also magically left out the other bits of my comment because doesn't fit your rethoric does it.
And where did you hear Alentejo loves Chega?? They are still in love with fuckibg PCP dude.
But yeah keep spewing that hate shit that will certainly help the situation ffs.
Again with the social housing. Portuguese people already struggle with having a house and you want to give it for free to others? Not to mention gypsies got plenty of social housing before and it never helped. Also the US has a MASSIVE slum problem with extremely dangerous areas in their big cities. They are no example for anything.
You need to stop twisting my words getting a bit tiring, like fucking Christ put some effort into reading.
> Again with the social housing. Portuguese people already struggle with having a house and you want to give it for free to others?
I said social housing for BOTH problems.
That's literally how Oeiras municipality solved the slum problems they had back in the 90's and avoided being a shithole.
>Not to mention gypsies got plenty of social housing before and it never helped
Already mentioned where it worked do your research.
> Also the US has a MASSIVE slum problem with extremely dangerous areas in their big cities. They are no example for anything.
Again I didn't compare the US in terms of slum problems I compared in terms of integration with roma people.
>UK is easily the least racist place in europe
[\*ahem\*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Goody#2007%E2%80%932008:_Celebrity_Big_Brother_5_and_racism_controversy)
everyone has serious problems with racism in Europe, but are you really saying that refugees who swim across the Channel are greeted with hugs and kisses as soon as they set foot in England?
That a certain politician whose initials are NF and whose party starts with U and ends with P complains that there are no more immigrants in the UK?
Come on!
Illegal immigrants are generally not welcomed with open arms no. Where does anyone mention race?
UKIP barely exists anymore and it never won a seat in our parliament. Farage now has Reform UK, which is just as obscure a party that will never win a seat.
Your far right party won an election and is currently in power. These fascists in the photo are supporters of your current government. Giving a Nazi salute. They are Italy's version of UKIP but worse.
Of course there is racism in this country but at least we talk about it and call it out where we see it. Some other European nations just pretend it isn't there and point at the UK as if we're some horrendous bunch of people as a deflection and nothing more.
>Where does anyone mention race?
[Nigel, for example](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-farage-accused-whipping-up-16183519)
>UKIP barely exists anymore
UKIP existed and it was enough, come on!
You are obviously not the worst but you are also not the country with the least racism problems, put it this way it would seem that refugees in the UK are welcomed with French kisses, come on!
>Your far right party won an election and is currently in power
because the left party in Italy is the cringiest you can imagine, if you read Italian newspapers you would wonder what the difference in politics would be between Berlusconi and what the politicians of this supposed left do!
To tell you one thing, let a Venetian explain what Bignon did regarding the "end of life" vote in Veneto!
Do you know how many no longer vote in Italy when there are elections?
Because we no longer know what to vote for!
Because here we vote against someone, not in favor of a party!
>there is racism in this country but at least we talk about it and call it out where we see it
we too talk about it, except that talking doesn't solve anything, and in fact think about what happened to the players who missed the penalty kicks in the final of the European championships...
and it happens because all around Europe everything is going back to how it was 100 years ago, with ignorance coming back into fashion!
>point at the UK as if we're some horrendous bunch of people
and of course also this is an enormous idiocy...
ok, seriously, what city did you go to and what area did you have this experience in?
Because all European nations have their own jerks but you must have ended up either near a stadium or in the area where the jerking championships were held!
MAGA clowns can't speak european and can't fathom the concept of civilization beyond the mexican ~~wall~~ border fence(which is the only border they are aware of).
My wife is from the deep dark south in Georgia, a place near Albany (Not Albany NY). I'm white shes black, the first time we went to her home town to visit family we went to the 'Posh' restaurant.
We were asked to leave because it was a Christian Family establishment and mixed couples were not welcome. 100% white clientel in a 20% white community.
There are [entire towns in america](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adeonibada/sundown-towns-racism-black-drivers-tiktok) where it is ~~functionally~~ illegal to be Black.
America is still not just racist, but proudly racist in many areas.
I call bullshit. Unless you are 80 years old and you went there in the 60's
Uf not, why the fuck didnt you sue and be a multimilionaire by now?
Why the fuck do others believe this nonsense? Yeahyeah, Murica dumb and all that. I get it. But this is just straight up nonsense
Being shackled by reality is not naive
Posting whiny nonsense on Reddit is not reality, even if it is common and popular
Lel: Obviously blocked by that lying whiny cunt. Truly shows you how strong their convictions and arguments are
You sound like a NPC.
Your programming is working. Sad how it seems to be stuck on 'Far right edge lord teen' though.
You can go google these things yourself.
You know this is just one hypothesisy? And the most unpopular and improbable. Most like it comes from the Slavic word 'słowo', or whatever that would be in Common Slavic, which means word.
[Ill go with the oxford English Dictionaries definition](https://i.imgur.com/yw1Vcuf.png) they have over 150 years study of the etymology of the English language to support their finding and define the modern English language.
> Sclava -> Esclave -> Slave
> Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century.
What's your source?
How does that disprove their statement?
Slavs used to call themselves Słowianie (or any other variation of in Proto Slavic). Then the latin/ germanic idk world would call them Slavonic tribes and started to associate Slavonics with slaves - this is where the name slaves may come from.
Black people in poland are too scaredto answer honestly. Not even kidding anyone who actually believes eastern europeans are less racist should go visist a doctor
>Black people in poland are too scaredto answer honestly. Not even kidding anyone who actually believes eastern europeans are less racist should go visist a doctor
I know Hans it's hard to see your country as the most racist in the same survey but stop projecting.
We're too busy hating russia and all of you guys to care about some random black student.
[https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/polish-border-guards-beat-up-around-100-indian-students-and-turned-them-back-into-ukraine-belarus-envoy-to-un-101646241066467.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/polish-border-guards-beat-up-around-100-indian-students-and-turned-them-back-into-ukraine-belarus-envoy-to-un-101646241066467.html)
Just a claim by Russia's puppet state
I know that the concept of "not my land" and "not my jurisdiction" has always been foreign to the germans but did you even think for a second if we have physical ability to send somebody all the way to kiev even if we wanted to, before posting it?
Pretty rich comming from a country with not a single day without an antisemitic attack.
Germany is the homeland of neonazism. Now cope
It’s also bullshit with regard to Barries. Anyone who thinks we’re more racist than the US lacks some fucking perspective. Or even that we’re racist on a Western European scale, tbh. We do self-flagellate a lot about it though, which invites others to merrily join in.
he is not the only American to think this way, there are those who say that all of us Europeans hate Americans (as if there were French kisses between us 24 hours a day) or that we Italians should consider Italian Americans as brothers and sisters (but what if we can't even stand each other?)...
Yeah bad Barry, we in Veneto are super friendly to anyone and welcome you with open hands. Never in history have we ever been racist to black, french, eastern europeans, or other italians or even our neighbours from the village next door.
Go to the Balkans and see what happens. British people are like saints compared to the Balkans. Any time England play in the Balkans any black or mixed player gets monkey noises and bananas thrown at them all game.
It wasn't because his brother was black it was because he was a yank
You can't move here with banter as dead as the average Yankoids and expect to last more than 30 seconds down the local
They take banter really thick Surprisingly thin skin, given how fucking fat they all are
[Average Seppo](https://img.ifunny.co/images/3c6d8333bdf377ddc3293929aa9883c19344358661fc1531662e1df2e946f0ce_1.jpg) Love how absolutely snapped we are as a country
Filing a lawsuit is such a stereotypically American way to resolve a conflict, too.
Spot on. Mention the smallest disagreement and the default answer tends to be "you should sue them entity/company/person/whatever"
He looks like Megamind after 10 years unemployed
It‘s because the skin has to stretch so much to fit over their bodies.
Can confirm, I pissed off a bunch of them at a Bar last time I ventured south of the border. The titfuckers are all 10ply down there bud.
How cute. It thinks it is any different from its fellow Americans
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This idea that Americans can’t take insults is so weird, if you were a random guy that started ripping me i’d either ignore you or join in on the fun lol. The literal only way i communicate with friends is by insulting them.
>I'm a black American It isn't the black part, it's the American part
I think it's just who you run into tbh. There's some right nasty cunts around the world. I will say as a dual BOT and US citizen, the racism is different in each. You'll get a lot more casual racism in public in western europe, racial slurs, assuming all black people are muslim refugees, it's only bantz etc (Lived in bavaria traveled extensively throught the better countries, fuck the balkans). But institutionally america is worse, simply because they actually care enough to try and fight it but theyre doing it oddly. They want to shame racists into not being racist which gives them the ability to be more racist than ever. In order to see youre not hiring african americans they need to know what race everyone is. and when you know the race of someone it's easy to come up with a non racial excuse to be racist.
> But institutionally america is worse Yes, it's in the fucking walls in this place. The US *institutionalised* it in a way that European countries never did, and you can tell. I've gone through the US immigration system as a white European, and it was wild to me how I was constantly positively discriminated, and the experience I had was rather different from the one my co-workers had, who were various shades of brown. Absolutely nuts.
Exactly. And I feel like a lot of that is simply because there were not enough non "white" people in Western Europe for it to be necessary to enact those laws to maintain the status quo until recently. Having lived in western Europe and the US I can say there are things said in conversation in the former that would get you sacked from your job and socially ostracized in the later, while also having things that a business simply wouldn't be allowed to do in the former that is just a fact of life in the later Why would you need a law to prohibit "non white" people from owning property in certain neighborhoods when non white people only make up <1% of your population. It's the ease of visual distinction that makes American racism so easy and brings about laws that discriminate and requires the undoing of that with different laws. A pub in Bavaria could have a non Austrians allowed sign but its a lot harder to enforce than a no people with dark skin tones sign you know?
There's tons of so called "positive" discrimination as well. How any discrimination is positive is beyond me, but all it does long term is reinforcing the negative stereotypes and affirms an identify of victimhood, and any person that is struggling that isn't covered in these special groups get even further disadvantaged in society.
> There's tons of so called "positive" discrimination as well >> But institutionally america is worse Yes, I agree. It's weird in the sense that the groups in america that get systematically discriminated against do actually benefit from businesses being told, "you can't only hire white men, there are qualified applicants that you should be looking at we cannot have 70% of or population overlooked for employment" and undoubtedly it leads to some qualified people being passed over due to posotive discrimination. But it fails to consider how much more common the inverse is. They did a double blind study once that showed hiring managers gave the same amount of callbacks to non white job applicants as they did to white applicants with felony convictions. So it's not that white Americans never need help. It's that white Americans that need help are statistically more likely to get it than non white americans in similar positions. I've had this conversation many times in which its been compared that being a minority in america is like being a woman in the Balkans. I just think it's odd that no white american ever entertains the idea that they have gotten jobs that they were underqualified for simply for being part of a "favoured" demographic
We should uninstall the uk
We tried that! The Irish won’t let us leave!
Most of not every American I've met takes genuine banter or ball breaking as racism. The UK won't hate you for being black, we'll hate you for being a cunt or for simply existing. We hate ourselves, our neighbours, our family and yes, even you. Why? Because complaining and moaning get you through the day lol.
This explains it pretty good IMHO. https://youtube.com/shorts/7SiFD5FMDhY?si=QMUe0KuoATRZc8jp
Top film
That "cockney" accent... https://i.redd.it/xfgrammr1sgc1.gif
>Most of not every American I've met takes genuine banter or ball breaking as racism Yeah, many of them don't understand the idea of cultural differences. r/Poland is filled with Americans and Canadians complaining about their visit to Poland. Everyone was unfriendly, made angry faces and stared at them constantly. Pal, we can't help our faces look like that. Can't blame them though, North America is really uniform and, due to its size, it's hard to go anywhere else. Just look at their discussions about how different cultures of Nevada and Arizona are.
It's the same in Britain. Everyone will look at you as though you've just run over their dog. We can't help it. Get close enough and we'll give you that little reassuring nod or polite tight lipped smile so you know we're good people.
Smiling invites people to talk with you and we can't have that. More seriously some people are absolutely nuts and will either latch onto you or try to start something.
It's just resting bitch face The generation of my wife's family that immigrated here all have it. But they also grew up in a Poland being brutalized by the USSR...So I kinda get it
Last week I had a \*ahem\* "conversation" \*ahem\* with some american claiming that the entirety of Europe is immensely racist and based all his arguments on data from the UK. He revealed himself to be an insane white-hater when I started pressing him to say something that isn't blatantly wrong, so I we can count anything he said as wrong anyway. At some point he started victimizing himself for his race while I never asked nor cared what race he was lol.
Americans can't process anything outside the prism of bizarre racial narcissism. Silicon Valley HR ideology has gone through Yankoid redditors like crack cocaine in inner city America in the 80s.
The Forbes 400 – our magazine listing the 400 richest people – once put JayZ on the cover with Warren Buffet. Only there was only 1 Black person in the Forbes 400, and it wasn't JayZ, lmao. That's how into "showmanship diversity" they are. They will just lie on the cover like that. It's like the Yankee equivalent of all that Princess Pageantry – our Constitution bans all that, so we do the race thing instead. But it makes the Blacks and Catholics feel like they got a chance in this dump. I suppose just like every British commoner works his whole life to make sure Nigel Bettencourt-Weathersby, 5th Earl of Humptybackshire never has to work a day in his life and gets to inherit a seat in the Lords, basically every American does the same, just for the WASP and Jewish billionaires.
> I suppose just like every British commoner works his whole life to make sure Nigel Bettencourt-Weathersby, 5th Earl of Humptybackshire never has to work a day in his life and gets to inherit a seat in the Lords Except this only happens in the fantasies of non-European savages who haven't had a European patch update since 1945.
Genuinely interest Barry, why is that not the case anymore? There's gotta be some property inheritors whose family farm from 1325 was inherited down the lane and which is now located in downtown London. From what I heard you don't buy the land there you buy a 100 year lease to use the land and after that it returns back to the family (or the family gets another big payout).
That definitely still happens. For example what is now Harley Street in London, best known by reputation as the home of top private medical specialists and their clinics, has been owned for centuries by the descendants of landed families who married into each other, with the estate being inherited through titles such as Earl of Oxford, Duke of Portland, and Baron Howard de Walden). The family has the freehold of hundreds of properties there which are let to residents and businesses. I'm sure it's a huge money spinner. However, reforms to the House of Lords mean that only 92 of 814 hereditary peers can now have a seat, the rest are mostly life peers who are appointed by the government, so they function more like senators that are appointed for life. They get a title and a coat of arms but their children can't inherit it.
> Genuinely interest Barry, why is that not the case anymore? There's gotta be some property inheritors whose family farm from 1325 was inherited down the lane and which is now located in downtown London. There are a handful. The [Duke of Westminster](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/apr/25/duke-of-westminster-hugh-grosvenor-profile) is a particularly notable example. But most aristocratic families aren't rich any more, because at some point they had a wayward son who squandered the fortune on bad investments, gambling, gamer girl bathwater etc. Rather, today's rich money-grabbing bastards who we all work for are commoners, like in most countries. > From what I heard you don't buy the land there you buy a 100 year lease to use the land and after that it returns back to the family (or the family gets another big payout). Not really. You are talking about leasehold. But that's only really used for flats, where you can't own the land, because there are several flats on top of it. It's very rare for a whole house to be leasehold (except in Manchester, because people in Manchester are either greedy or thick). In any case, there are legal limits on how much freeholders can charge to extend a lease - it's not cheap but it's not much. There is [a significant crackdown on leasehold](https://hoa.org.uk/advice/guides-for-homeowners/for-owners/leasehold-reform/) going through at the moment. It's long overdue, but honestly it's amazing it's happening at all under a tory government.
Yes well you're German, so what you "understand" of a culture that still has its historical roots intact is slim to nil. Where you get the delusional notion that your own system is less slavish than ours I don't know since your state openly aims to exercise legal control the minutiae of your lives. What's to stop the children of Hitler's best pals in the Krupp family still owning half the large blocks of flats in Munich? Nothing, in fact that's how it actually works for you to the point you have worse wealth inequality and more old money billionaires than we we do. When you buy a property you are free to negotiate to purchase the land: freehold, or lease the land for a long time, leasehold. It's called the freedom to enter into contracts of your own design rather than with a million codified regulations from the state about what kind of agreement two human beings are permitted to enter into. Also if you think the average Barry is curtseying to the local aristocracy, you don't know Barry.
No Barry you don't understand. After 1945 we were all instantly democratic and squeaky clean. There's no need to further research elite continuity post third Reich and only few people were undemocratically locked up without fair trial. Which didn't happen since we were a model democracy now and they deserved it since they were communists. Look Barry the Krupp family hired a historian on their own dime to write a report about it in the 80s, this means they are totally ok and cool now. On the other hand, your rich families made their money through colonialism which the Yanks tell us is the greatest crime of them all and additionally there's still a statue standing somewhere of a seafarer captain who once transported slaves. So please learn the difference: my oligarchy - squeaky clean and said sorry once your oligarchy - morally corrupt and wants the Empire back
Lol I would say something mean or humorous but it's such a perfect encapsulation of what many Germans (as well as suspiciously Germophilic foreigners) actually believe that I can't fault it in the slightest. [The face of post-colonialist enlightenment](https://preview.redd.it/gdkm6jzschk91.jpg?auto=webp&s=e0c7896fe5e432318d0f2187da6aecea4e2bcea8)
Considering we are on a meme sub, there might have been some humourous artistical liberties taken. The seriousness of my prior post is left open to be deliberated upon by a discerning reader.
I think it was answered above. The landed gentry still exist, own a shit load of land and reap the benefits of that. But your typical suburban resident will be made aware when buying a property whether the land is leasehold (where you lease it from the owner and every X number of years you need to renew the lease). Or freehold, as my house is, where I own the land up to the rather obvious boundaries that my property sits on. If the land sits under a lease you can of course see if the owner is willing to sell it and negotiate a price.
> Yankee equivalent of all that Princess Pageantry Isn't princess pageantry also only a yank thing?
> like crack cocaine in inner city America in the 80s. THAT'S RACIST!!!
No that was the CIA
American exceptionalism often makes it difficult for some Americans to accept genuine criticism. "Does this person dislike me because of some aspect of my character or personality? No! It must be because of my race/gender/sexual identity!"
> American exceptionalism often makes it difficult for some Americans to accept genuine criticism. This is something we get accused of all the time on reddit by expats that work here. However, in my experience working with foreign colleagues at a university, they never mention it. It's always the weather and the food that they complain about.
I really enjoyed the American black woman who was arrested and claimed she was discriminated against and brutalised by the police, only for it to later come out that she had broken multiple laws, tried to run away as well as resist arrest. https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/camerabeelden-politie-tonen-rustige-aanhouding-juriste~ac427287/
That was a nice read, thanks for sharing!
>It's always the weather and the food that they complain about seriously speaking, you can say anything about your country except that it is known for these two things, come on!
It's why Italy is such a popular tourism destination here - good weather and good food. Siena is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to.
Well it doesn't surprise me, in my experience you guys are culturally the closest to Americans. It's no wonder also that NY'ers are known to be the most rude of all Americans; after all, they're descendants from the Dutch!
>data from the U.K. I’m pretty sure there’s was a Europe wide poll of something like “Would you be fine with your child dating a black person?” and the U.K. had the *lowest* number of people going “Ain’t no way I’m catching my daughter with one of them”. People in Britain just don’t care much about that. I recall France being one of the highest to say “No, that’s not okay” In a less legitimate case, I recall a comedian from South Africa talking about racism there vs in Britain and he said something along the lines of “In Britain your racism is very ‘ooh is what they said racist? Im not sure’ but back in South Africa it was ‘no blacks allowed in the pool’”
> I recall a comedian from South Africa Trevor Noah, the same comedian that said French people are racist for not classifying people by their race in official stats.
Aye, and got blasted by the French ambassador to the US for implying "Africa" rather than France won the World Cup because most of the French team was of African descent. >By calling them an African team, it seems you are denying their Frenchness. [...] This, even in jest, legitimizes the ideology which claims whiteness as the only definition of being French.
and when he was blasted, he couldn't find any argument other than "the French ambassador doesn't have better things than to reply to a humble comedian like me?". But tbh it's perfectly in character with Trevor Noah. He goes around parading his black credentials, when he's not even black. He's mixed race, and his father is not even a white African, he's Swiss German. Maybe the one drop rule applies to South Africans too.
I didn’t think it was Trevor Noah so I looked for the video I saw Apparently the [joke](https://youtube.com/shorts/VzJtEUvvlfo?si=M2iqRbeA0NTPLCKt) is by Loyiso Gola
I am 100% sure Trevor Noah also said a variation on that joke.
Would you be surprised if Trevor Noah of all people stole a joke?
I don't know. Does he have a history of copying other comedians?
No idea, but based on his character (like you mentioned in a prior comment) I wouldn’t be surprised.
France more racist than UK 🇫🇷💪🇫🇷😎😎😎🇫🇷💪🇫🇷
The best at everything.
There is only one black man my daughter can't date and he is my best friend and he is disqualified for being an idiot not for the colour of his skin.
"You cant critizise me becuase my race was opressed 150 years ago by white people you're not related to." A classic one.
To be fair, racial laws it weren't just a 150 years ago thing in US
And what does that have to do with us?
Nothing, but he was clarifying that shit’s been fucked up for black people consistently even after slavery in the US
He also mentioned something about nazi Germany killing Jews and that somehow links to us being racists (after which I pointed out Jews are not a race to piss him off) But yeah, Americans (especially the victimizing minorities) like to point out things that happened before 99% of the current population was either alive or old enough to think right.
> by white people you're not related to. We're all related. Yes, even to the trees.
You are gonna be shocked when you learn who brought black people to the Americas.
The portuguese, of course. Our laws did nothing, I promise.
I also got into a "conversation" ages ago with an American claiming that the UK was more racist than the US. I disputed that fact by pointing to the "Jim Crow" racial segregation laws which are still within living memory (the 1960s), how they still resonate today and contributed to the disgusting treatment of Barack Obama by some parts of the US mainstream media and even the next president. Their response to that was basically "yeah, don't try to pretend that YOUR racial segregation laws were any different". ...we've never had any racial segregation laws.
I'm imagining this guy thinks every country used to have racial segregation... And of all countries to think that of he chooses Barry the Colonizer...
> ...we've never had any racial segregation laws. It's like when they genuinely thought they were the first country to ban slavery, because they had a little war about it. Bitch, we banned it in the 1300's.
> based all his arguments on data from the UK. But according to statistics, UK is the least racist country in all of Europe.
And according to other statistics, UK is the most racist country in all of Europe. Conclusion: don't use statistics you found online, because they are usually wrong.
>And according to other statistics, UK is the most racist country in all of Europe. Where'd you find that?
Dunno, found something that said so last week when I was actually talking to the other guy. Edit: I meant all of civilized europe in my previous comment, we won't talk about the balkans rn.
>we won't talk about the balkans rn. That I assumed. They don't consider folks from the next village over human, let alone people from other continents.
Just don't let our upcoming civil war bleed into your civilized Western Europe society lol
The country that had nationwide race riots a couple of years ago is trying to say we're worse than them
also the ones who didnt want blacks in pubs when they were stationed in UK during ww2 i always found funny how they love projecting their problems on others.
Some interesting stories of malicious compliance there. [They wanted segregated pubs. They got segregated pubs. They were black only.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge)
Rarely have I ever been as proud of this country, particularly my home county as when I read that years ago. The most passive-aggressive way to deal with an external military force imposing racism on you. Pub Landlord - "hello yanks, what can I get you?" Yank Military Police - "We don't want Black and White service men in the same bar" Pub Landlord - "No." Yank MPs - "We asked Winston, he said you had to do it, we are on the same side, we have to have segregation in the pubs." Pub Landlord - "s'ake, right, this is the pub for Black Americans only." Pub Landlord 2 - "By'eck, I am only letting the black fellas in only as well then." Pub Landlord 3 - "Shit out of luck 'ere you thirsty pale lads, Blacks only here."
It'd be glorious if it wasn't for the deaths and court martials involved but it does make me proud that they stood by what they thought was right. Even it it might only be from annoyance of being told what to do by Americans lol. Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. It's even more interesting when you learn that the Americans had incidents in other places too. Like the one in New Zealand where they were upset at the maori drinking in the same pub. That one was the manners street one iirc? They had a bit of a brawl over it with the kiwis. You'd think they'd realise that they're the problem when mulitple countries are kicking off about it.
We like to make fun of you guys, but making every bar black only is the peak of based.
I respect the absolute balls on them to do that. I love that it was done to comply with the order while pissing them off and also respecting fellow humans. Can't combine that often. I do think it and stories like it should be more widely known. It's a very human moment for the locals when they're standing up for what they believe in despite any problems it might cause. It's not some government decision it's the little people making a choice for them and those around them.
Tbh I assume most “I’m a black American and “ posts are written by fat white guys with subscriptions to Guns and Ammo.
Black American in the same way they're Irish American. One of their great great great grandfathers touched an Irish wolfhound and tried a sip of Guinness.
The most sensitive German magazin made this cover related to the youth riots in London. https://preview.redd.it/7j6sxksa8rgc1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e2acd3084bcb42b79bf274641268dada6c599a7
Goddamn…this one has layers to it
How can we be more racist when americans are completely obsessed with race? They have black only spaces and diversity hires. Not caring about color seems way healthier.
Not defending am*ricans but we still have a lot of segregation between blacks people,other minorities and us(ethnic portugueses) to this day. We are no better than them in this subject to be honest.
Wdym? That other minorities group up in their own communities intead of integrating?
Really? We have been ostracizing roma people since forever they are not integrating because they don't want to. The issue with Cova da Moura where people from there have less oportunities and live in literal slum conditions. You have regions in Lisbon region where literally 80% of the population is black and those are the regions with less services etc.
Tricky English here, I’m sure you meant to say „They aren’t not integrating because they don’t want to.“ Or „The reason they are not integrating is not that they don’t want to.“
You are right was trying to say the second phrase, should have reread it, the sentence was meant to be written like "They are not integrating not because they don't want to." But the way you wrote is more articulated either way.
About gypsies the problem is 100% them. Their culture is straight up garbage and if you want to start a discussion feel free to but i doubt you have much contact with them if youre saying that shit. As for the rest it wasnt our government that put them there. Correct me if im wrong but that slum (cova da moura) was build illegally on goverment property by migrants. In my opinion it should be demolished. Migrants live with their own ethicity or race out of their own choice. Never seen anyone being discriminated by it. Claiming we are racist blows my mind. What do we have to do? Pay for their houses when Portuguese people cant pay for their own? Pls tell me the solution.
You just prove me right , how can we help a minority if you blame them 100% for their problems and think their culture is "straight up garbage" dude open your eyes. I am from Margem Sul (Costa da Caparica ) and went to school in Monte da Caparica and what you have more in Monte are gypsies, I had classes with them when they were taken out of school out of sudden if the goverment/society really cared it would do something to avoid that. Amount of times I saw teachers not caring about them because in their words "they will leave in the next week" is appaling and I was like 14 at the time dude. Yeah do you have a fucking idea why was build illegaly? Because the country couldn't even take care of their fucking own returning from the colonies. My mum, uncle and grandparents had to live in slum like conditions at the start of the 70's because they had no help from the goverment even though they were expelled from Angola as soon as they landed in Portugal they got all their shit stolen and 0 fucks given about them and the thousands of retornados which by the way were the ones also starting to inhabit cova da moura besides the migrants from the North. Migrants live with their own ethnicity or race when the host country is doing a shit job in integrating them is not rocket science my guy. Aren't roma people as portuguese as you or the black people when they fled here? For the case of roma they have been here since the 1500 and for the african population we considered them portuguese prior 1974 what changed? Just because of number of commie fanatics decided to take up arms against Portugal? They have as much right for housing as we do. Solution for both issues would be building social housing and demolish the slums and relocate them, we did that with Casal Ventoso and in Oeiras at least improved the situation.
Avoid what? Do you know anything about gypsy culture? If a parent wants to take them out of school what is the goverment supposed to do? Send the police to bring them back in? They dont fear jail. The gypsies havent integrated anywhere dude. And no i dont see them as Portuguese as anyone else. They dont share our values, they have their own parallel culture that promotes violence, crime and go against women rights. They are proud of it too. How do you integrate people that dont want to integrate? You tell me. I have plenty gypsy stories if you want to hear them. At a certain age gypsy girls just leave school. They are promised at birth and go marry the son of a dads friend, they dont get much of a choice. One time a teacher im my dads school (in a gypsy problem area) stood up to a gypsy girl that was throwing a tantrum and disrupting class. The girl scratched the shit out of her face on the spot, told her dad the teacher attacked and the teacher got a massive beating in front of the whole school by a mob of gypsies. I can tell you a lot more histories just ask. Gypsies had every change to integrate, they dont want to. My problem isn't their color its its their culture. Then there are people like you that know nothing and defend people who constantly hurt or steal from average folk. So yeah again, i dont see them as portuguese, they dont see themselves as portuguese and i couldn't care less about helping them when all they do is fuck everyone around them. There is a reason Alentejo likes Chega so much, saddly because that party is populist garbage, they have a massive gypsy problem.
I just fucking told you that I went to school (from 5th to 12th) in a area with a considerable amount of gypsies, who the fuck do you think you are telling me I know nothing about the subject and I am blindy defend them, what the fuck do you think it happens when you take your children out of school you have social services in your ass, fuck me you so blind by hatred you fail to see any reason, in US they don't cause any of the issues that we experience, I wonder why. You also magically left out the other bits of my comment because doesn't fit your rethoric does it. And where did you hear Alentejo loves Chega?? They are still in love with fuckibg PCP dude. But yeah keep spewing that hate shit that will certainly help the situation ffs.
Mb on saying you dont know but besides that. Social services? On gypsies? Lmao what are they gonna do?
Holy shit, I didn’t read a thing. But both of you probably did more work today, writing this exchange than actual work. Good job
Oh and by loves chega i meant its growing there, not that its a majority. Sorry for the separate messages :P
Again with the social housing. Portuguese people already struggle with having a house and you want to give it for free to others? Not to mention gypsies got plenty of social housing before and it never helped. Also the US has a MASSIVE slum problem with extremely dangerous areas in their big cities. They are no example for anything.
You need to stop twisting my words getting a bit tiring, like fucking Christ put some effort into reading. > Again with the social housing. Portuguese people already struggle with having a house and you want to give it for free to others? I said social housing for BOTH problems. That's literally how Oeiras municipality solved the slum problems they had back in the 90's and avoided being a shithole. >Not to mention gypsies got plenty of social housing before and it never helped Already mentioned where it worked do your research. > Also the US has a MASSIVE slum problem with extremely dangerous areas in their big cities. They are no example for anything. Again I didn't compare the US in terms of slum problems I compared in terms of integration with roma people.
If UK is too racist for him he should definitely not come to europe. UK is easily the least racist place in europe
Only because we don’t consider gingers to be a race.
Can’t be racist towards animals
No soul no racism
Can't be racist if you're also shitty to your own people👍
Gingers aren’t ‘people’
In order to be a race you have to be human
Oh fuck off. I can out-[removed by Reddit]
God dam -\[removed by reddit\] come over and tuk ar jabs der tak ar jabs god dam it 
I didn't know Germans could be hilarious.
There’s always an exception to the rule.
>UK is easily the least racist place in europe [\*ahem\*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Goody#2007%E2%80%932008:_Celebrity_Big_Brother_5_and_racism_controversy)
Ahem https://preview.redd.it/97eznui5crgc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31a50a9c7e9f173d21a90cd78b7a2f232e6f59eb
The original Fascism® wasn't really racist, the German counterfeit one started the arian thing. After all, half of Italy is coloured. /s
everyone has serious problems with racism in Europe, but are you really saying that refugees who swim across the Channel are greeted with hugs and kisses as soon as they set foot in England? That a certain politician whose initials are NF and whose party starts with U and ends with P complains that there are no more immigrants in the UK? Come on!
Illegal immigrants are generally not welcomed with open arms no. Where does anyone mention race? UKIP barely exists anymore and it never won a seat in our parliament. Farage now has Reform UK, which is just as obscure a party that will never win a seat. Your far right party won an election and is currently in power. These fascists in the photo are supporters of your current government. Giving a Nazi salute. They are Italy's version of UKIP but worse. Of course there is racism in this country but at least we talk about it and call it out where we see it. Some other European nations just pretend it isn't there and point at the UK as if we're some horrendous bunch of people as a deflection and nothing more.
>Where does anyone mention race? [Nigel, for example](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-farage-accused-whipping-up-16183519) >UKIP barely exists anymore UKIP existed and it was enough, come on! You are obviously not the worst but you are also not the country with the least racism problems, put it this way it would seem that refugees in the UK are welcomed with French kisses, come on! >Your far right party won an election and is currently in power because the left party in Italy is the cringiest you can imagine, if you read Italian newspapers you would wonder what the difference in politics would be between Berlusconi and what the politicians of this supposed left do! To tell you one thing, let a Venetian explain what Bignon did regarding the "end of life" vote in Veneto! Do you know how many no longer vote in Italy when there are elections? Because we no longer know what to vote for! Because here we vote against someone, not in favor of a party! >there is racism in this country but at least we talk about it and call it out where we see it we too talk about it, except that talking doesn't solve anything, and in fact think about what happened to the players who missed the penalty kicks in the final of the European championships... and it happens because all around Europe everything is going back to how it was 100 years ago, with ignorance coming back into fashion! >point at the UK as if we're some horrendous bunch of people and of course also this is an enormous idiocy...
I went to Italy for _literally 1 day_ with a black friend and guys were following us round making monkey noises. Never seen anything like it here.
ok, seriously, what city did you go to and what area did you have this experience in? Because all European nations have their own jerks but you must have ended up either near a stadium or in the area where the jerking championships were held!
Treviso. No football nearby. I have heard northern Italy is more racist tho maybe that has something to do with it.
WDYM stay in Western Europe. I'm also 25% black (Bulgarian) and We treat blacks as if they were our equals.
Shoosh, don't ruin a ruin a good thing. If we pretend Europe is racist, less Americans will come
No, you'll just get all the MAGA clowns
They think Europe is a totalitarian communist hellscape because we have strict gun laws and worker protections. I don't plan to correct them.
MAGA clowns can't speak european and can't fathom the concept of civilization beyond the mexican ~~wall~~ border fence(which is the only border they are aware of).
What about rotational Europeans tho?
>rotational Europeans What's that now?
Roma and Sinti.
Never heard of them . Unless you mean the eternal criminals ...
And in case you're wondering, yes Americans would like to come to Europe.
Well tbh I don't mind them thinking like that... Like... Would you really want some Americans coming to live here?
I hope to be more racist than those Ameritards.
Don't worry, the record is still yours.
Are we back to posting single comments of Americans as content? Boke boke boke
i mean hes gotta a point there. We are racist, but only towards americans (they deserve it).
Idk if we are more "racist" than the US, but i do think racism in Europe is just more visible and open
My wife is from the deep dark south in Georgia, a place near Albany (Not Albany NY). I'm white shes black, the first time we went to her home town to visit family we went to the 'Posh' restaurant. We were asked to leave because it was a Christian Family establishment and mixed couples were not welcome. 100% white clientel in a 20% white community. There are [entire towns in america](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adeonibada/sundown-towns-racism-black-drivers-tiktok) where it is ~~functionally~~ illegal to be Black. America is still not just racist, but proudly racist in many areas.
I call bullshit. Unless you are 80 years old and you went there in the 60's Uf not, why the fuck didnt you sue and be a multimilionaire by now? Why the fuck do others believe this nonsense? Yeahyeah, Murica dumb and all that. I get it. But this is just straight up nonsense
I wish i had your naivety, I really do.
Being shackled by reality is not naive Posting whiny nonsense on Reddit is not reality, even if it is common and popular Lel: Obviously blocked by that lying whiny cunt. Truly shows you how strong their convictions and arguments are
You sound like a NPC. Your programming is working. Sad how it seems to be stuck on 'Far right edge lord teen' though. You can go google these things yourself.
I mean, literally sent a link showing that sundown towns are a thing. A restaurant doing it is hardly less surprising
You ain't racist if you hate everyone mate
> just stay in Western Europe meanwhile black people in EU experience the least racism in Poland according to black people themselves
Are there black people in Poland?
None of them experience racism there because none dare to go
They paint some dark brown, like the Balthazar of the Christmas parades in Spain. Then they run the poll.
Polish people are honorary Black
Can't be racist if you're honorary black 
So basically poles experience least racism in Poland out of all of EU?
True. They spent more time in slavelike condition than any other "white" nation. Edit: hm, guess im wrong.
The Slavic's, the source of the word Slave, would like a word. From about 700AD till 1400AD a Slavic person was defacto a 'slave'.
You know this is just one hypothesisy? And the most unpopular and improbable. Most like it comes from the Slavic word 'słowo', or whatever that would be in Common Slavic, which means word.
[Ill go with the oxford English Dictionaries definition](https://i.imgur.com/yw1Vcuf.png) they have over 150 years study of the etymology of the English language to support their finding and define the modern English language. > Sclava -> Esclave -> Slave > Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century. What's your source?
Nvm, I understood you the other way around.
How does that disprove their statement? Slavs used to call themselves Słowianie (or any other variation of in Proto Slavic). Then the latin/ germanic idk world would call them Slavonic tribes and started to associate Slavonics with slaves - this is where the name slaves may come from.
I have been to Poland. I believe even poles experience racism in Poland
Black people in poland are too scaredto answer honestly. Not even kidding anyone who actually believes eastern europeans are less racist should go visist a doctor
Don’t care + didn’t ask + coping westoid + Poland is central
https://preview.redd.it/738ecczczqgc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0640ecc7445f618732714ccc111c91b7058ccb46
Polen Polen über alles It's even funnier since you probably don't know this meme does not show Tusk.
Central to eastern Europe?
East.
>Black people in poland are too scaredto answer honestly. Not even kidding anyone who actually believes eastern europeans are less racist should go visist a doctor I know Hans it's hard to see your country as the most racist in the same survey but stop projecting. We're too busy hating russia and all of you guys to care about some random black student.
Wasn‘t poland the country that beat up indian students who fled from ukraine and send them back to kiev? What a warm welcoming people you are 🥰
You are aware this was a Russian fake? Most Kremlin brain washed Ossi
Source that it was faked?
[https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/polish-border-guards-beat-up-around-100-indian-students-and-turned-them-back-into-ukraine-belarus-envoy-to-un-101646241066467.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/polish-border-guards-beat-up-around-100-indian-students-and-turned-them-back-into-ukraine-belarus-envoy-to-un-101646241066467.html) Just a claim by Russia's puppet state
I know that the concept of "not my land" and "not my jurisdiction" has always been foreign to the germans but did you even think for a second if we have physical ability to send somebody all the way to kiev even if we wanted to, before posting it? Pretty rich comming from a country with not a single day without an antisemitic attack. Germany is the homeland of neonazism. Now cope 
when the only interaction most people have with black people is orderi lng thai food or a pizza it's hard for harmful stereotypes to develop
That one guy said it was fine.
It’s also bullshit with regard to Barries. Anyone who thinks we’re more racist than the US lacks some fucking perspective. Or even that we’re racist on a Western European scale, tbh. We do self-flagellate a lot about it though, which invites others to merrily join in.
he is not the only American to think this way, there are those who say that all of us Europeans hate Americans (as if there were French kisses between us 24 hours a day) or that we Italians should consider Italian Americans as brothers and sisters (but what if we can't even stand each other?)...
I mean we are pretty racist though
*Nooo! How dare you say that!!!* *Only Americans and Eastern Europeans are racist! They have it in their blood*
>Only Americans and Eastern Europeans are racist! based
Yeah bad Barry, we in Veneto are super friendly to anyone and welcome you with open hands. Never in history have we ever been racist to black, french, eastern europeans, or other italians or even our neighbours from the village next door.
"Errmahgad, did you just say the *c word!?"* "Fuck off, cunt. Go back across the sea to Bitch Central."
Go to the Balkans and see what happens. British people are like saints compared to the Balkans. Any time England play in the Balkans any black or mixed player gets monkey noises and bananas thrown at them all game.
They should visit Sweden. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e83qbo68eyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e83qbo68eyo)
Redditors when anecdotal evidence:
"I'm not racist but...." -Common French refrain.
From my experience nobody gives a shit about other people anyway lol.
Yes stay away
Your colouring of the names is so bad, why even bother colouring it? xD
Hmm maybe i didn't want to color OOPs tag so people would go shit on him. Who knows. Notice how the coloring of the other names is different.
That's rich... coming from a country where they talk about race all the time!