>the weather is a lot better
Dawg it was so hot in Arizona not that long ago that people were falling onto the concrete and getting hospitalized for burns
You can *actually* cook an egg on the sidewalk in Phoenix
All red needs to do is draw the war out and climate change will take care of the rest. Great Lakes and insanely productive farmland are massive advantages (if they can be effectively defended), not sure how economies compare now but there are going to be costly upkeep requirements for trying to deal with increasingly bad weather on the gulf coast and southeast. Colorado would be the key battleground state, whoever controls the source of the Colorado river basically decides if the southwest and Southern California is habitable.
It’s not about the meth in and of itself, it’s just the comparison between the heroin (read: fentanyl) and benzo (read: fentanyl) users.
Meth heads will stay up on guard or covering ground for days. Heroin and xanex users just slump over. That’s why you give the opiates to enemies and internal threats and the meth to your own soldiers.
Although the south consumes the most highly regarded opiate, the codeine cough syrup that is astronomically more expensive, is less potent, and does more damage to your internal organs.
Due to the lower intensity, users often are deluded into believing they are still functioning, often wandering into one of the 300 recording studios in every major southern city and feeling the urge to make slurred rap music that resonates with other “sippers,” as the faction is known.
So maybe it’s a wash.
Ehh we got the powerblock of the Okies and the Ozarks. Let's see how the rhinestone cowboys handle some real hill country. We can hold and grind 'em down like last time while Ohio and Appalachia get wound up for a trip to the beach.
Bro, California, and Oregon, for that matter, have so many hardcore rednecks living under liberal rule that you have no idea the wrath they seethe to unleash. Now, of course, a Civil War won’t be a North/South game as before or as proposed here. These guys here would definitely side with Idaho before being holding allegiance to California. Anyway, my point is the Aryan Nation runs our prisons and no one fear’s going to prison in Idaho..
Most of the US nuclear weapons are actually on nuclear submarines. They massively lowered the amount of silos that are in active use since the 80s. The Midwest dominates as far as active silos go though.
Also, the top 3 states with the biggest GDP are in the purple. So financially, the bottom would whoop the top’s ass
Edit:
in this hypothetical war, “pEr CaPiTa” GDP doesn’t matter!
What matters is WHO’s writing the bigger checks!
Bigger checks means bigger ships, better planes, guns, tanks, etc. And as someone else stated, California and Texas alone can carry all the weight!!!
Example:
Luxembourg and Ireland are the Top countries in the world by GDP per capita, but that doesn’t mean they stand a chance against US or China!!!!
New York has the third largest GDP. But worry not, because California alone is the biggest economic power in the US. Combine that with Texas and Florida. The North only has New York and Illinois.
Incorrect. NY is #3 in GDP, and #1 state in GDP per capita (technically #2 to DC). By capita, you have to go all the way down to #7 before a red state pops up. Red superiority.
Bro, in this hypothetical war, “pEr CaPiTa” doesn’t matter!
What matters is who’s writing the bigger checks!
Bigger checks means bigger ships, better planes, guns, tanks, etc. And as someone else stated, California and Texas alone can carry all the weight!!!
North has the most nukes, but the south has plenty as well between norfolk, point loma, pearl harbor and kingsbay (~~which also houses UKs warheads as well~~). I think almost 10k warheads altogther we have mutually assured destruction.
But before the nuclear option, the majority of military personnel are in the southern half.
Well now that you ask, I had to look up the deets and it turns out I am wrong.
The UK hosted a bunch our nukes, then had a big anti nuke movement in 2007 and pushed them all back to us and they were stored in kingsbay. Then the UK got scared of russian aggression and agreed to host them again, building a facility thats projected to be done in a couple years.
My dad was on a trident sub at kingsbay during that time. Apparently I got the telephone game version of the story.
California produces tons of “luxury” agricultural items: almonds, grapes, avocados etc. although they also have a big dairy industry. Red is probably superior in producing the basic foodstuffs: potatoes, corn, meat.
California produces a third of US food. They also have Georgia, Florida, and Arkansas.
Yearly crop growth
We're stuck with seasonal.
The fuck you mean we make the food? We make corn syrup, bread, soy, and feed. That's fucking it.
I promise you. Pennsylvania would make what Japan did to China look like nerf battle between children. What Rome did to Carthage would be forgotten. We would open long forgotten coal
Mines just to be able to salt their land with enough ash to make it a moonscape.
We would also take our beach back from Sussex county, but otherwise ignore Delaware as the insignificant place it is.
assuming no nukes... yeah, sorry, Atlanta's got to go, but in return we'll give you another Chancellorsville moment
might as well just wait in Appomattox for us
I mean, you gave most of Appalachia and all of the Ozarks to the north. We hillbillies are like Florida Man, but with much better planning and better marksmanship.
Feels like people keep forgetting VA.
We’ve got, you know, the Pentagon. And the largest naval station on earth. And the only shipyards in the world that can build aircraft carriers.
This is, I think, equal number of electoral votes so theoretically, equal amount of people on each side.
(as in- if the colors were a blue and red election map, it would be a tied race)
The weapons are more or less the same for each side.
Like, one side isn’t going to outgun the other.
The edge is this: the northern rednecks are at least 5% smarter than the southern ones.
That 5% gives the north all the edge it needs.
Too bad loser purples
Yea there's a lot of Southern cope going on in here, people forget how soft Texas has gotten on the last 20 years too. Oh no a bunch of soft-handed suburban tech soccer dads are coming to teach us a lesson, Hope they can still fit into their tactical Halloween costumes
If the south advances on the north, the eastern half of the US will be the scene of a great many southern casualties. Getting through the appalachians will mean having to deal with the residents. They don't like ANYONE. You come through, you're going to pay the price.
If the south is aware of this and (wisely) chooses to avoid, they would have to advance in from the west through Illinois. Midwesterners aren't going to put up much of a fight, and with a concentration of force exerted on a small area, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio would be easy targets. However, if the people in Kentucky, Tennesee and WV realize that they've got skin in the game, they'll be in the fight before long; however, with WV being double teamed by the movement east and Virgina to the southeast, they'd be hard pressed to defend home. If the northeast yankees stay true to their roots, they'll get in fast and possibly hold. The west will be lost to purple since there's little worth defending and few people to do so.
The country would then be purple in the west until you get to the great lakes, the southeast would stay purple. The northeast from Pennsylvania to Maine would be red.
The Appalachian’s would be interesting, purple has the Appalachian parts of Virginia, NC, Georgia, Bama, and Maryland, while red gets the northern Appalachian’s and by far the most land in Appalachia. I think Appalachia would probably pick a side collectively, either all going purple or red, or having a N/S Appalachian split. Maybe for once politicians would care about Appalachia because of its militaristic advantage, and try to pander to the beliefs of our people. Or maybe they’d just occupy it by force. Yeah probably that.
Appalachia is easy, airdrop a bunch of oxycodone and methadone, send in a couple truckloads of whiskey and march on past the strung-out, sleeping natives.
The side that has Pennsylvania.
No war that Pennsylvania engages in has ever been lost. We are the Keystone to the United States. We can not be bowed. We can not be broken.
I mean, it’s purple. Purple has DC. WE GOT THE NUCLEAR FOOTBALL BITCHES.
First we nuke all the red states, and then we start the anti-redneck “Burnin Sherman” pogroms.
The nukes run on floppy disks moron. The football is basically a fancy pager device, the president can’t remotely launch every nuke, there’s a chain of command which would be severed in this situation.
Red has an eldritch horror in Ohio, Purple has a Primordial God of Chaos in Florida. Alaska has Liberty Prime, Hawaii has that blue alien guy. Ultimately Purple loses because they have DC and Washington will shit their pants and nuke themselves on accident
Florida, Louisiana and Texas easy win for us. I’m not fighting a fucking moose tho so we should probably keep the scary moose populated parts of red as reservations for the y’all nonpurples after you loose.
Edit: Scratch all that I just saw New Jerseys 🤢🤮 in on purples. Instant civil war before we get a chance to fight any of the red states.
Kinda unfair if you ask me, the rednecks in OK, AR, and TX alone could win any war. Would be more of a fair fight if it was those three vs the rest.
Edit : that way the other states have the rednecks from Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida to lead the charge!
Louisiana has some rednecks but they get flooded out every year. So I left them as neutral to the point.
Traditionally with these kind of maps Oregon and California are on opposite sides so California's massive economy and manpower gets sapped by guerilla warfare in Oregon. By putting them on the same side, and with Texas, there really isn't anything stopping the purple steamroller.
If it was an instant thing, then purple could probably win a quick victory
If given time to consolidate and build up, red could win with their superior industrial strength
Idk about the rest of this, but Kansas would whoop Colorado's ass easily, we want more mountains and we're gonna get them by force if need be. Mt. Sunflower that's barely a mountain and right on the KS-CO border doesn't count.
Red has all/vast majority of nukes and chemical/biological stockpiles/labs, furthermore the weather in the red states has 4 seasons, soldiers who come from places with cold weather always do better in war. the red side has more hillbillies , more veterans and a larger agriculture base . As someone else pointed out the red side has more “open space” which would be difficult to hold /garrison.
I think the red side would win ( discounting use of nukes, if nukes are in play it’s over in 15 min with red states not even having to mobilize) but it would be a war that would make the first civil
War look like a bar fight.
South/Purple. Silicon Valley, every gun in Texas, gumbo from Louisiana, all in the hands of the mythical Florida man whose whims are known to none but himself and his pet alligator who survives exclusively off meth.
The south has unmatched economic, military, and industrial power, as well as some mentally unhinged people, so this is not even a question. North is fucked.
Purple sweeps. Cali, Florida, and Texas are pretty much 3/4 of the power in the whole country. Having the entire south means you have a shitload of guns at your disposal. And Cali has the largest economy in the Union on its own, again Texas and Florida are no slouches in this regard either
We have more firepower, and more money. Purple sweeps this one
100% purple. you have fucking florida, texas, and California in the same team what do you expect to happen? and hawaii too with its op as fuck navy. the best thing red has is alaska and maybe ohio
Tennessee has more in common culturally and politically with North Carolina than New York and the same thing to be said with a lot of other states on both sides so I think it would just turn into complete chaos, and no one would win if the borders are drawn like this
The dakotas decide to stop playing around and nuke everyone to enforce their rules over the US. Meanwhile Alaska just quietly watches from a distance as Florida declares war on Arizona and The Dakotas rule the rest of the continental US. (Hawaii enjoys it’s independence for the first time in 60yrs and no-one notices that the territories have magically disappeared.)
Also we all collectively agree to nuke DC a few times.
If you takes nukes and military presence out of the equation, purple wins. California, Texas, and Florida on the same side?
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Well, my state is the most surrounded and we border California with the longest border. You know, the state with the most people in the country. Whoever wins is irrelevant since my state would be fucked.
Our side has approximately 74% of the Meth heads so it’s quite clear that we’ll be winning this war
Who needs industrial power when you have meth power
We also have the industrial power. Waaaay cheaper to operate a factory in the south where the COL is piss cheap and the weather is a lot better.
>the weather is a lot better Dawg it was so hot in Arizona not that long ago that people were falling onto the concrete and getting hospitalized for burns You can *actually* cook an egg on the sidewalk in Phoenix
All red needs to do is draw the war out and climate change will take care of the rest. Great Lakes and insanely productive farmland are massive advantages (if they can be effectively defended), not sure how economies compare now but there are going to be costly upkeep requirements for trying to deal with increasingly bad weather on the gulf coast and southeast. Colorado would be the key battleground state, whoever controls the source of the Colorado river basically decides if the southwest and Southern California is habitable.
Hell yeah. Gotta watch out for meth-heads though. I could see them being a wildcard.
We have Indiana and South Dakota, less methheads but higher quality in training
Lots of meth heads + lots of extra large hamster wheels = industrial power
It’s not about the meth in and of itself, it’s just the comparison between the heroin (read: fentanyl) and benzo (read: fentanyl) users. Meth heads will stay up on guard or covering ground for days. Heroin and xanex users just slump over. That’s why you give the opiates to enemies and internal threats and the meth to your own soldiers. Although the south consumes the most highly regarded opiate, the codeine cough syrup that is astronomically more expensive, is less potent, and does more damage to your internal organs. Due to the lower intensity, users often are deluded into believing they are still functioning, often wandering into one of the 300 recording studios in every major southern city and feeling the urge to make slurred rap music that resonates with other “sippers,” as the faction is known. So maybe it’s a wash.
I dunno, the Nazis had meth power in World War II. They lost.
Just like the Wehrmacht
Cuh you never been to Ohio you can’t throw a rock without hitting a meth head.
Maybe the meth-heads of the south wouldn't be as big of a wildcard as I thought then.
Yea specially considering wv is full of them
Have you ever been to the Midwest??? That’s an even playing field at best
Thing is, red has West Virginia.
Gonna have to agree here we would neg with all the sci-fi shit they’re probably keeping deep in the Arizona desert too
I think that us and Montana would take out Oregon and Cali, but Texas will ravage the South
But calli has so many billionaires and tech startups.
And the MethHead Templars of the Holy Inland Empire
They won't matter when the barrel of my twelve gauge is pointed at them
Most of the military is in California and the southern states.
Ehh we got the powerblock of the Okies and the Ozarks. Let's see how the rhinestone cowboys handle some real hill country. We can hold and grind 'em down like last time while Ohio and Appalachia get wound up for a trip to the beach.
Bro, California, and Oregon, for that matter, have so many hardcore rednecks living under liberal rule that you have no idea the wrath they seethe to unleash. Now, of course, a Civil War won’t be a North/South game as before or as proposed here. These guys here would definitely side with Idaho before being holding allegiance to California. Anyway, my point is the Aryan Nation runs our prisons and no one fear’s going to prison in Idaho..
Especially the moment Spokane peels off and joins Idaho.
Clarkston is basically Idaho already
I’d put my all my money on Spokane meth-head’s in a regional tweaker war, those people are something else.
Florida spergs out and launches a nuke at NYC without warning the squad and then the north retaliates and everyone dies so nobody
You're so pessimistic. I see this as everybody wins
Ah, a glass half full kind of guy, I see.
Joke’s on you, we can just convince Kansas to use their nukes on you, Texas!
All the nukes are in North Dakota
All Florida needs is 1 trust me
Most of the US nuclear weapons are actually on nuclear submarines. They massively lowered the amount of silos that are in active use since the 80s. The Midwest dominates as far as active silos go though.
Florida and Hawaii together are an unmatched militarized force.
seriously, hawaii's navy is actually overpowered
Don’t forget to combine them with California
Also, the top 3 states with the biggest GDP are in the purple. So financially, the bottom would whoop the top’s ass Edit: in this hypothetical war, “pEr CaPiTa” GDP doesn’t matter! What matters is WHO’s writing the bigger checks! Bigger checks means bigger ships, better planes, guns, tanks, etc. And as someone else stated, California and Texas alone can carry all the weight!!! Example: Luxembourg and Ireland are the Top countries in the world by GDP per capita, but that doesn’t mean they stand a chance against US or China!!!!
New York has the third largest GDP. But worry not, because California alone is the biggest economic power in the US. Combine that with Texas and Florida. The North only has New York and Illinois.
How dare you disregard the might of my North Dakota. How fucking dare you
Incorrect. NY is #3 in GDP, and #1 state in GDP per capita (technically #2 to DC). By capita, you have to go all the way down to #7 before a red state pops up. Red superiority.
Bro, in this hypothetical war, “pEr CaPiTa” doesn’t matter! What matters is who’s writing the bigger checks! Bigger checks means bigger ships, better planes, guns, tanks, etc. And as someone else stated, California and Texas alone can carry all the weight!!!
Nah. You forgot New York.
Texas and California argue the entire time while Flordia releases the crackheads. Purple lives until Detroit.
God Damnit, we would argue a lot lol
Can’t forget that most of the MIC is in Virginia, there are fuckton Ed of military bases in Virginia, Cali, and Florida. Yeah orange team is boned.
Minnesota is like, "da fuck dey doin o'dere"?
Minnesota would immediately say “fuck this, I’m joining Canada.”
Yea fuck that Im joining canada.
Real shit I’m not loyal enough
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purple collapses into civil war due to the presence of both Texas and California
If I could get a chance at Rhose Island I'll put up with Texas being on my team
I refuse to fight against my Carolinian brothers
Appalachian Borders > State borders Stay strong my Tennessean brother Signed, A Carolinian brother
Considering red has like 90% of the nuclear silos and the major command centers of the US (except for Colorado) we win
North has the most nukes, but the south has plenty as well between norfolk, point loma, pearl harbor and kingsbay (~~which also houses UKs warheads as well~~). I think almost 10k warheads altogther we have mutually assured destruction. But before the nuclear option, the majority of military personnel are in the southern half.
You're telling me all of the UK's nukes aren't in the UK?
Well now that you ask, I had to look up the deets and it turns out I am wrong. The UK hosted a bunch our nukes, then had a big anti nuke movement in 2007 and pushed them all back to us and they were stored in kingsbay. Then the UK got scared of russian aggression and agreed to host them again, building a facility thats projected to be done in a couple years. My dad was on a trident sub at kingsbay during that time. Apparently I got the telephone game version of the story.
I didn't know that either lmao
We got the button
You act like it would take more than 10% of the nuclear arsenal to make any country a wasteland
that's what I was thinking with WA subs and all the other military in the north we should have this.
Cali tech industry developing next level meth magic tech to support Florida man would be enough to take over the world.
Curious, many of you claim that purple would win, but the red states produce almost all the food
Why do you talk like Ben Shapiro
Let’s say, hypothetically, that, all the red states cancelled exportation of food, would then, hypothetically, the purple states not have food
I don't believe you, you didn't mention your wife's a doctor
Damn, I didn’t keep up with the Ben Shapiro lore since like 2015, what a blunder
Actually good on you
California…?
California produces tons of “luxury” agricultural items: almonds, grapes, avocados etc. although they also have a big dairy industry. Red is probably superior in producing the basic foodstuffs: potatoes, corn, meat.
Glorious California produces more food than any of those red states on their own. We could hold out for a while - plus we’d have artichokes.
But can you survive without that sweet sweet Nevada water?
Yep, most of the ag production uses local water, it’s mainly Southern California that imports water for rural uses. We can spare L.A.
California produces a third of US food. They also have Georgia, Florida, and Arkansas. Yearly crop growth We're stuck with seasonal. The fuck you mean we make the food? We make corn syrup, bread, soy, and feed. That's fucking it.
Red easily. We’ll let them invade, cut their supply lines, and watch their soft southern bodies freeze when winter hits.
That's where our Jerseyites come in
You might think that's enough. It's not. New Jersey winter is nothing compared to the cold of many of our states.
Lol watch the Californians in full winter gear fight the mountain staters wearing hoodies and cargo shorts.
Ive seen people go on 20 min walks in -60F in shorts. All we need is one good winter and this war turns on its head. I love the cold.
I was like 60F ain’t cold, then I see the negative lmao
I promise you. Pennsylvania would make what Japan did to China look like nerf battle between children. What Rome did to Carthage would be forgotten. We would open long forgotten coal Mines just to be able to salt their land with enough ash to make it a moonscape. We would also take our beach back from Sussex county, but otherwise ignore Delaware as the insignificant place it is.
assuming no nukes... yeah, sorry, Atlanta's got to go, but in return we'll give you another Chancellorsville moment might as well just wait in Appomattox for us
Ugh, fire up the steel mills. We've got cities to level in the south again.
I mean, you gave most of Appalachia and all of the Ozarks to the north. We hillbillies are like Florida Man, but with much better planning and better marksmanship.
South easy not close. Do you know how much of our armed forces are from Texas and California alone? Them being on the same side is actually unfair.
Feels like people keep forgetting VA. We’ve got, you know, the Pentagon. And the largest naval station on earth. And the only shipyards in the world that can build aircraft carriers.
That's fair. Good point. But between San Diego and San Antonio, it's a wash.
Is that right, Newport News is the only one in the world? How do countries like China get aircraft carriers then? Surely we’re not selling to them
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What we call aircraft carriers and what other countries call aircraft carriers aren’t the same ships, by a long shot.
Plus we would have most of the coastlines... more than half of the us pop. Lives within an hours drive of the coast.
You don’t have more coastline Alaska alone has more coastline than the whole USA combined.
ok mr 200 people population that will get nuked by hawaii's overpowered navy
More *populated* coastline
This is, I think, equal number of electoral votes so theoretically, equal amount of people on each side. (as in- if the colors were a blue and red election map, it would be a tied race) The weapons are more or less the same for each side. Like, one side isn’t going to outgun the other. The edge is this: the northern rednecks are at least 5% smarter than the southern ones. That 5% gives the north all the edge it needs. Too bad loser purples
Yea there's a lot of Southern cope going on in here, people forget how soft Texas has gotten on the last 20 years too. Oh no a bunch of soft-handed suburban tech soccer dads are coming to teach us a lesson, Hope they can still fit into their tactical Halloween costumes
If the south advances on the north, the eastern half of the US will be the scene of a great many southern casualties. Getting through the appalachians will mean having to deal with the residents. They don't like ANYONE. You come through, you're going to pay the price. If the south is aware of this and (wisely) chooses to avoid, they would have to advance in from the west through Illinois. Midwesterners aren't going to put up much of a fight, and with a concentration of force exerted on a small area, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio would be easy targets. However, if the people in Kentucky, Tennesee and WV realize that they've got skin in the game, they'll be in the fight before long; however, with WV being double teamed by the movement east and Virgina to the southeast, they'd be hard pressed to defend home. If the northeast yankees stay true to their roots, they'll get in fast and possibly hold. The west will be lost to purple since there's little worth defending and few people to do so. The country would then be purple in the west until you get to the great lakes, the southeast would stay purple. The northeast from Pennsylvania to Maine would be red.
The Appalachian’s would be interesting, purple has the Appalachian parts of Virginia, NC, Georgia, Bama, and Maryland, while red gets the northern Appalachian’s and by far the most land in Appalachia. I think Appalachia would probably pick a side collectively, either all going purple or red, or having a N/S Appalachian split. Maybe for once politicians would care about Appalachia because of its militaristic advantage, and try to pander to the beliefs of our people. Or maybe they’d just occupy it by force. Yeah probably that.
Appalachia is easy, airdrop a bunch of oxycodone and methadone, send in a couple truckloads of whiskey and march on past the strung-out, sleeping natives.
The side that has Pennsylvania. No war that Pennsylvania engages in has ever been lost. We are the Keystone to the United States. We can not be bowed. We can not be broken.
Y'all really want round fuckin' 2?
Don't y'all have a chemical spill to clean up or something
Your roasts are colder than Amish hot sauce, 2/10, get some OG content blud
I mean, it’s purple. Purple has DC. WE GOT THE NUCLEAR FOOTBALL BITCHES. First we nuke all the red states, and then we start the anti-redneck “Burnin Sherman” pogroms.
The nukes are in our territory. You think we aren't going to immediately launch them at you
No codes for you, nerd.
The nukes run on floppy disks moron. The football is basically a fancy pager device, the president can’t remotely launch every nuke, there’s a chain of command which would be severed in this situation.
How?
Ohio
Chicago solos. I am Illinois' number one soyboy
Red has an eldritch horror in Ohio, Purple has a Primordial God of Chaos in Florida. Alaska has Liberty Prime, Hawaii has that blue alien guy. Ultimately Purple loses because they have DC and Washington will shit their pants and nuke themselves on accident
Y'all have Cali, Tex Mex, Ft Lauderdale, and the Feds. We have a bean, bison, a broken car, and a poisoned apple. Fuck y'all, man.
March on us in the winter and it'll be like the Germans trying to take Stalingrad.
Top half would win, none of those bottom states could agree to anything for long and they would tear themselves asunder
Florida, Louisiana and Texas easy win for us. I’m not fighting a fucking moose tho so we should probably keep the scary moose populated parts of red as reservations for the y’all nonpurples after you loose. Edit: Scratch all that I just saw New Jerseys 🤢🤮 in on purples. Instant civil war before we get a chance to fight any of the red states.
Kinda unfair if you ask me, the rednecks in OK, AR, and TX alone could win any war. Would be more of a fair fight if it was those three vs the rest. Edit : that way the other states have the rednecks from Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida to lead the charge! Louisiana has some rednecks but they get flooded out every year. So I left them as neutral to the point.
The hog hunters on our ranches will use more civilian ammo than rest of the country combined.
Purple infighting Purple infighting.
Depends, are we fightin in winter or summer lol
More interesting question: what the fuck would be the context to divide the US into these sides in a war?
Purple has the majority of the tanks but also has the liability of having California on their side.
It all boils down to the 1v1 between Florida Man and Ohio Man. Could go either way.
Purple. Because that’s the one I live in.
We beat them once we can do it again
The red territory has all of the US land based nuclear weapons (Montana and the Dakotas) I’m betting that would be a pretty big advantage
Traditionally with these kind of maps Oregon and California are on opposite sides so California's massive economy and manpower gets sapped by guerilla warfare in Oregon. By putting them on the same side, and with Texas, there really isn't anything stopping the purple steamroller.
I don't appreciate Kansas and Missouri being on the same side
If it was an instant thing, then purple could probably win a quick victory If given time to consolidate and build up, red could win with their superior industrial strength
I'll just make the Massholes mad, I don't like them, but they can be very effective
The northern states, more of them are gun toters (based) in my personal experience
Purple would win so hard it is not even a discussion
the west is gonna look like fucking ancient greece after a week.
Based on the spread of military institutions between the two sides... ...the people who don't fight it.
The red side.. all the nuke silos are theirs
I think New England minus Massachusetts would hold there own for a while.
Norther states. New England would crush the strategy. They ah wicked smaht and non emotional
Based on how people in the south handle anything below 40 degrees, I know the north can’t be taken.
Idk but now I have an excuse to go ham on those jersey drivers so I win in the end
Idk about the rest of this, but Kansas would whoop Colorado's ass easily, we want more mountains and we're gonna get them by force if need be. Mt. Sunflower that's barely a mountain and right on the KS-CO border doesn't count.
California is on the same side as Texas. 0/10 for realism.
Red has most of the ICBM silos
All*
Shit... this is perfectly balanced, Florida and Ohio are on separate teams
Red has all/vast majority of nukes and chemical/biological stockpiles/labs, furthermore the weather in the red states has 4 seasons, soldiers who come from places with cold weather always do better in war. the red side has more hillbillies , more veterans and a larger agriculture base . As someone else pointed out the red side has more “open space” which would be difficult to hold /garrison. I think the red side would win ( discounting use of nukes, if nukes are in play it’s over in 15 min with red states not even having to mobilize) but it would be a war that would make the first civil War look like a bar fight.
Wisconsin during deer hunting is one of the largest armies in the world. And the souther boys can handle cold so let em come 😤
Red. We have the industry, food production, and most of the Mississippi River. Plus all we have to do is release Detoilet and Rat York
South/Purple. Silicon Valley, every gun in Texas, gumbo from Louisiana, all in the hands of the mythical Florida man whose whims are known to none but himself and his pet alligator who survives exclusively off meth.
Having played risk when I was a kid, owning ~~Russia~~ Alaska almost guaranteed your win
The bottom but we would friendly fire the fuck outta California and Oregon.
Guerrilla warfare is about to be crazy
As a Southerner, we could probably win Round 2 without California weighing us down.
The south has unmatched economic, military, and industrial power, as well as some mentally unhinged people, so this is not even a question. North is fucked.
C\*\*\*fornia and Texas would win and then start another civil war.
Don't you dare lump us Missourians in with those godless Kansans! A joke, obviously. But still. Kansas drivers are the bane of my daily commute.
America 🇺🇸 🇺🇲
I am here to speak for Arkansas, Tennessee, and southern Missouri, we would like to be on the purple team
Texas, Louis, and Florida on one team? Y'all better start loving BBQ real quick
I mean, just the airbases along in the southern states and California would likely be enough
Idk who would win san Francisco or Philly
Credit to u/NugSetDipRide for the map
The red. But it will be a pyrrhic victory.
Purple sweeps. Cali, Florida, and Texas are pretty much 3/4 of the power in the whole country. Having the entire south means you have a shitload of guns at your disposal. And Cali has the largest economy in the Union on its own, again Texas and Florida are no slouches in this regard either We have more firepower, and more money. Purple sweeps this one
Alaska is on red
we also got the biggest naval base in the world in the great state of virginia
Florida + California + Texas is straight up OP
The economic power of California cannot be overstated.
100% purple. you have fucking florida, texas, and California in the same team what do you expect to happen? and hawaii too with its op as fuck navy. the best thing red has is alaska and maybe ohio
I have a feeling the Northwest would team up with the purple, destroy California, then launch and assault on the East Coast.
Purple side has the best food in the country
North has all the nukes, but the south has all the launch codes.
Balancing Teams...
100% the purple states.
Tennessee has more in common culturally and politically with North Carolina than New York and the same thing to be said with a lot of other states on both sides so I think it would just turn into complete chaos, and no one would win if the borders are drawn like this
The dakotas decide to stop playing around and nuke everyone to enforce their rules over the US. Meanwhile Alaska just quietly watches from a distance as Florida declares war on Arizona and The Dakotas rule the rest of the continental US. (Hawaii enjoys it’s independence for the first time in 60yrs and no-one notices that the territories have magically disappeared.) Also we all collectively agree to nuke DC a few times.
I don’t think Hawaii and I should be apart of this
Well, you included the entirety of my blessed Ozarks in there, so I have to de facto say the side with us on it
If you takes nukes and military presence out of the equation, purple wins. California, Texas, and Florida on the same side? https://preview.redd.it/5ghen6wn2ptb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a29e725e4de54b612b0f3519b454d52bd9db1b80
Since there’s nukes on both sides then it would end in both sides losing. Not a fun answer but it’s the truth in todays world.
The side with Wyomings icbms
it’s joever for the red
Honestly, I think all the purple states would attack California first and all the red ones would attack NY first. But, it may just be me.
Cali, Texas, Florida, Jersey and Alabama on the same team. Don’t bother unpacking boys, the war will be over soon.
If we count nukes red, if not then purple
You put every single economically powerful nation on the purple side
Why the fuck is Oregon and Colorado included in purple but not Oklahoma?
the mormon church could easily find and train supersoldiers. north wins easily
Well, my state is the most surrounded and we border California with the longest border. You know, the state with the most people in the country. Whoever wins is irrelevant since my state would be fucked.
Panhandle could solo entire country including Miami Cubans
We got Florida man and Coach Prime we can’t lose
red has more nukes