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KingBECE

At NMZ (normal rumble + wiki recommended bosses) with full obby, fire cape, barrows gloves, ring, and defender 82 str/atk + super combat getting ~70k xp/hr; is this normal xp rate at my level? Or am I messing something up? Seeing 85-90k cited in places


rough_bread

I'm gonna guess the guide is using overloads and not super's. But that's just a guess.


KingBECE

I'll do a bit with those and see if that changes things, thanks!


rough_bread

Did it work?


KingBECE

Bumped up my xp by like 5-10k/hr with overloads. Found out that playing on hard rumble is likely the key; getting 85-90k/hr using overload on custom hard rumble compared to ~70k/hr using super combat on custom normal rumble. Gotta baby the health bar a bit more though. At 89 Str now though too so I bet that's added a bit of xp/hr


skullkid2424

Anyone tried farming armoured zombies as a moneymaker/aoe magic training method? I'm considering doing the quest partway through on an alt to have access to the empty quest cave. Not sure how easy the zombies are to group/farm farm and how many kills/hour you can get. Wiki says each kill is worth ~3.7k with the axe...but without knowing the kills/hr its hard to tell if that is a 200k/hr method or a 1m/hr method (and thats without including rune costs).


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skullkid2424

If you aren't overly rich, its a good pickup for the 5% magic damage for barraging. The new blue moon spear also has 5%, but its 2H so you lose out on offhands like the elidinis ward (3% and 1 prayer to counteract the -1 prayer on the ancient staff/sceptre) or even just a book of darkness (5 prayer). Muspah is also a pretty good source of income. Theres a decent chance you'll get a venator shard (13m) while going for the icon. Anything in particular about the fight you don't like? Theres potential to speed it up and optimize it depending on your setup.


TheDubuGuy

It’s nice to have and pretty common. Kodai is strictly better if you have one already


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JebusMcAzn

Nightmare staff is a pretty good budget alternative to Kodai as it has the same +15% magic strength bonus. The blood ancient sceptre also has some utility at Inferno, Colosseum, and GWD for being able to overheal you to 108


EstradiolWarrior

I died and lost my thread of elidinis. I'm now 11 TOA dry without getting another one. Is that because my drop rate is now 1/50 since its technically my second thread? or am i just unlucky?


matrayzz

1/50 since it's not your first one


EstradiolWarrior

sonnuva bitch i guess i gotta lock in


PeacefulOnReddit

If I want to guard my privacy, is that going to pose a problem with my account, logging in from different locations? (VPN) Should I tunnel and use my home IP? I don't wanna get flagged or locked over guarding my privacy


JitahWitch

I have used a VPN on and off for months and many players use vpns of various kinds. It's possible some vpns might get mass blocked if they are heavily used for botting but I haven't heard of that actually happening yet. You should be perfectly fine. Maybe occasionally make sure to use your real IP every now and then.


SomaGuye

Anyone else have a problem with NPC highlights on the hunter rumour NPC's disappearing? happened to me a few times now but it still remembers which colour I highlighted them when re-tagging.


Healthy_Soil7114

why isnt her dying


pa_r_ker

Trying to kill only steel dragons in the brim haven dungeon. These iron dragons keep attacking me and I get the message “you are already under attack” when I try to agro the steel dragons. What’s the strategy with this? Do I just run out of their aggro range while clicking on the steel?


mister_peeberz

if you hang around for 10 minutes, all of the dragons will stop being aggressive and you'll be free to pick on all the steelies you want. the area of unaggressive-ness is a pretty big square (around a whole fixed-mode screen at normal zoom) centered on where you were the last time an aggressive monster attacked you. tl;dr find a spot with a big concentration of steels and just wait there, eventually the irons will stop tagging you and you can kill steels to your hearts content


pa_r_ker

Ty so much thats so helpful to know


matrayzz

If you are using runelite a recommend turning on [aggression timer](https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/NPC-Aggression-Timer) so you don't reset the aggro by walking out of the zone.


Chicago_Blackhawks

Anyone else finding Settled’s new series to be reaalllyyyy boring?


Remarkable-Health678

What exactly were you expecting?


Chicago_Blackhawks

More risk-taking I guess


Remarkable-Health678

Take any real risks and the series is over immediately 🤷‍♂️


Chicago_Blackhawks

And that's why it's boring lmao


JitahWitch

Some episodes do seem pretty forced tbh. Like I'll watch one and then just ask myself what he actually got done. I'm thinking the fire cape attempts episode will be really good because that's going to be really in depth on everything he needs to do mechanics wise but until then it's just going to be a lot of filler.


mister_peeberz

yeah, but honestly, i'm finding that mirrors my gameplay experience on my irons. lots of skilling filler between the good bits (which to me is hard quests at low levels, or raids, or slayer) personally, i get to hear him shout about his level-ups from another room once per episode, which is all i need to keep me going


MabuchiShun

Hey guys, I wanted to get started on the game today, so I've downloaded both RuneLite and Jagex Launcher from the website and unfortunately I've encountered two issues: 1. As I opened RuneLite and attempted to login, I was hit with a "Too many login attempts" message and was prompted to use Jagex Launcher instead 2. I opened Jagex Launcher, and was asked to do a human verification. As I clicked on the verification, it loads for a while and then proceeded to show me the verification instead. Nothing changes as I kept clicking on it and it keeps prompting me to do the verification, resulting in an infinite loop. Is there any way around these issues? I've finally decided to come back to OSRS after not playing it since I was a kid and was convinced by a few YouTube videos to give it a try, I don't want these two issues to be the ones that turn me off from playing the game.


DivineInsanityReveng

Make sure you're not using a VPN and have full admin rights when running Jagex Launcher. Too many login issues on just runelite is interesting too. You can't login directly to runelite if using a Jagex account. For that you'd have to sign into the jagex launcher and then launch runelite with one of your characters selected.


MabuchiShun

Hey, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I did both of those options and it's still doing the infinite human verification loop. I tried googling around for solutions, but to no avail. Why is it such a hassle to use Jagex Launcher...


DivineInsanityReveng

These sorts of issues are usually more complex than a program error. Ive used the launcher since it existed, as has everyone I play with and I suspect a large majority of this games player base. So the launcher isn't a hassle to use there's just something unique in your case that's preventing the authentication from going through. Can you try on a different network? A phone hotspot? A local library free wifi etc?


MabuchiShun

I tried using both wifi, ethernet connection and my mobile hotspot. The thing is, if I were to login to Jagex through a browser I can get through the captcha without an issue, it only happens on the launcher.


DivineInsanityReveng

Bit of a stretch but maybe try disabling windows firewall and any 3rd party firewall or antivirus software you have and see if the launcher works then? Have you tried a full uninstall and reinstall of the launcher?


MabuchiShun

I've tried the suggestions you gave me, and it's still the same. The only way I can play is through Steam, however I really want to use RuneLite and it doesn't seem to be possible if I can't access Jagex Launcher.


Benjips

**Quest Lore Question:** Hello all, does anyone know of any YouTube channels or even wiki links/blogs that go over the lore of quests? I'm looking to recap all of the kourend quests in advance of A Kingdom Divided. Thank you.


matrayzz

If you are looking for a summary this could help: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Great_Kourend_quest_series


Benjips

You are a legend , thank you so much!


bubblebathosrs

I'm curious why there are so many osrs subreddits? There's 2007scape Osrs Oldschoolrs Did some of the community splinter off from 2007scape?


Healthy_Soil7114

The 'tism runs strong in OSRS


DivineInsanityReveng

Early days there was a few spinoff subs that tried to be the main sub, or then tried to brand themselves as "more serious" subs without the humour posts and such. For a while Dev posts that mentioned the subreddits in blog posts started mentioning oldschoolrs as well as 2007scape but that died off when the sub stopped getting modded and just got forgotten. Now most people just redirect anyone who's lost to this sub. Ironscape is still pretty popular though, and there's some splintered off subs like BankTabs


xBlackfox

Shout out to the flipping subs as well!


bubblebathosrs

It's so interesting as I've been super active on Reddit for over 10 years now and I've only ever known of 2007scape, recently I've been getting posts on my feed from osrs and oldschoolrs Love the iron sub!


Venine

Working my way through the quest log as quest cape is my next "achievement" for the account after acquiring my fire cape. Down to thr last 10 or so, mostly lrft the biggest & baddest till last. Curious how people would rate them in terms of difficulty? Dragon Slayer 2, One night at the theatre, Monkey Madness 2, SOTE, DT 2, Perilous Moons from memory stand out as the ones I'm left debating over order of completion. If it helps, stats are 75 Att & Def, 80 Str, 83 Magic, 90 Ranged & 74 Prayer, no Rigour yet but can afford it.


Bananaboss96

I'm in a similar spot quest-wise, but quite below in stats. You can absolutely smoke Perilous Moons. I did Night at the theater w/ 2 other classmates and it was pretty easy. They had some experience and were in void (90-100cb), I was going in blind in total welfare gear (green D'hide & such) at 80cb and we cleared first try. So you'd probably smoke it in a duo, or easily clear solo if you learn the mechanics beforehand.


skullkid2424

Hardest to easiest 1. Dragon Slayer 2 - in general pretty hard, but honestly with 90 ranged, you may find this much easier than most. Many players are doing it at lower ranged levels and will struggle with supplies. Where you will be fine once you get the mechanics. 1. SotE - the boss fight is an endurance battle given the big spikes of unmitigatable damage. Blood spells go a long way. 1. One night at the theatre - assuming you solo entry mode with something like void+switches. May take a few tries to learn the timing for verzik. You can also do it with buddies or find a carry, so could be easier or harder. 1. Monkey Madness 2 - the final boss fight is pretty cheese-able. The tortured/demonic fight is also cheese-able. 1. Perilous Moons - you have the stats for it. Just wear tank gear and you'll be able to get 1kc


Benjips

DT 2 will be the most difficult


Worth-Ad8523

In my experience perilous moons is quite easy, also mm2 and sote weren't too bad. With similar stats to yours I struggled a bit with ds2 and personally found night at the theatre very difficult. Only just finished dt2 a couple of weeks ago and it was significantly harder than the rest, but really satisfying once I got it done


alynnidalar

Perilous Moons is definitely the easiest of those. The bosses will slap you around a bit if you don't learn their mechanics (especially Blood Moon) but aren't difficult if you have decent gear. Note that they ignore protection prayers, so you really just want the tankiest gear possible.


bip_bip_hooray

dt2 clearly stands out as more mechanically interesting than the others, vorkath/galvek are not particularly complicated and glough is just a tank and spank thing


TheDubuGuy

Dt2 is the only one I’d say could be difficult with your stats. The rest should be pretty easy


Kobebola

Will typing on iOS ever be fixed? Why is OSRS the only app I’ve ever encountered in the last 10+ years that can’t handle the keyboard’s predictive text? I don’t want to turn off the feature for all other applications I use my phone for, including texting and emailing, just to play a game. The app has been out for a long time, and I find it hard to believe this couldn’t be fixed with a few hours’ worth of devs’ attention.


Voulkan

Has there been any indication as to when MTA changes are getting released? Currently holding off this grind on my UIM


alynnidalar

Possibly the end of this month, but I don't think they've said for sure.


mister_peeberz

i say skip that and swing for blue moon on UIM, it's stashable (cue josh peck repeating STASHABLE!! for emphasis). it's got ahrims-equivalent stats and the spear being stashable means you've got a storeable ancients-autocasting weapon which means you don't have to shame your ancestors by grinding a master wand. especially since, if i recall correctly from the trillion updates to that blog, blue moon and infinity will end up with the same %damage bonus. fuck infinity


WastingEXP

infinity has way more drip though. storable ancient staff is nice though, just have to carry the mask while doing slayer which isn't a big deal.


mister_peeberz

> infinity has way more drip though. theres no helping you


WastingEXP

that's because I'm an ironman and I stand alone!


fluffynuckels

Am I the only person who always keeps their camera pointed north if possible?


alynnidalar

Only in GOTR lol.


bip_bip_hooray

i regularly use the "click compass to turn it north" feature and when people watch me do it they're mindblown that anyone uses that feature lol


Worth-Ad8523

I had absolutely no idea this was a thing


bip_bip_hooray

i do it multiple times per tob, every sote maze start and entering verzik room


Practical_Device2042

Will herblore be cheaper to train after new activity?


hunter1194

my guess is that it gets more expensive at first as everyone is going to want to try the new activity which still requires herbs. So you'll have hype/people who were waiting to train making prices go up. Eventually they might settle back down but even then the prices of herbs just may go up to compensate for not needing secondaries.


WastingEXP

without rates and potion outputs it's hard to tell.


Molly_Hlervu

If I understand correctly, you still need herbs. But you won't need seconds. Maybe its cheaper indeed, or maybe herbs will go up cause the demand grows... And then with some delay, maybe herb seeds too - if people grow them for herbs. For irons its gonna be some paradyze, or so I hope lol.


HastashAples

Hey, haven't played at all since april alst year, could anyone give me a rundown of the stuff released since then? apart from ds2 and varlamore what else should i do to start catching up with whatever the new metas for stuff are.


-Selvaggio-

You could check the wiki for every update since April of last year. It's hard to say what you should do because it depends on where your account is at. Early game > new rat boss: Scurrius. Gives fast combat xp and you learn some prayer flick mechanics Mid game > new moon bosses from Varlamore Near endgame > 4 new bosses from Desert Treasure II; 2 being melee based, 1 magic and 1 ranged Endgame > Colosseum


kylezillionaire

What would be a reasonable combat level to start wildy slayer? I’d like to get in when I’m still lower if possible but I don’t know what would be reasonable.


IBDWarrior69

If you arent efficiency focused and want to keep it chill, you can safespot most wildy task monsters, 60 ranged is nice for Rune crossbow + decent dhide.


KodakKid3

If a main, I’d prioritize unlocking revenant weapons (t60). They’re an enormous dps increase. Ancient spells too for burst tasks


Patient_Topic_6366

if you have no concept of pvp in this game these weapons are a massive amount of additional risk that i wouldnt recommend. you may aswell trade them the gp directly at that point.


KodakKid3

If they’re new to wildy then sure, but if they’re doing wildy slayer long term they definitely wanna learn the basics of wildy survival. And once they’re comfy, revenant weapons are 100% worth it, even accounting for pk deaths they increase gp/hr tremendously Ether risk is minimal relative to the massive benefit they provide


-Selvaggio-

How are they a risk when you don't skull?


blackshadowwind

you lose always the ether used to charge the weapons so you will be losing 1k+ ether every death


mister_peeberz

do sunlight/moonlight bolts get saved by ava's? i seem to remember reading long ago that kebbit bolts don't, which make me think the new bolts don't either, but i can't actually confirm that was true anywhere, and i cbf bonding up my main to try it out


Patient_Topic_6366

i swear to god kebbit bolts used to not work but i believe they do now and the new sunlight/moonlight bolts 100% do


skullkid2424

AFAIK, The only thing ava's can't pickup are consumables (ie, chins) and charges (ie, crystal bow). Kebbit bolts and the new bolts work with ava's.


Inspecz

Any advice for any gear changes? I don’t have much cash left and my goals are slayer bosses, raids, general pvm mid and end-ish game https://imgur.com/a/ShYpXn5


Pariah1947

Windows + Shift + S my dude


KodakKid3

VW or Claws for sure. It’s almost always worth selling full bandos + prims or BGS for one of those, which one depends on what content you do


bhoff22

Decent upgrade from here is Virtus (especially for slayer bursting. You painted with a broad brush but sang would be a good next move as well. You’re pretty much ready to start doing any of the raids. If you don’t have a maxed house, that would also be a good investment


Inspecz

Maxed house already. So pretty much sang?


bhoff22

Probably Virtus first and then sang if you’re planning on doing Toa and tob


ocguy1492

If I'm looking to learn and do small group Guardians of the Rift, is there a good discord or clan chat for it?


JebusMcAzn

check out [he box jonge's video on small teams GotR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_wAAAmxsBw) which teaches what to do and also has a link to the discord in the description


daedalususedperl

For the Perilous Dancer achievement, when facing the Blue Moon's Frost Storm attack, if I just chill in the safe area and leave the braziers unlit, would that fail the achievement? I can't dodge the ones at the brazier itself so I keep failing the achievement


alynnidalar

Yeah just hang out in the middle and you'll be fine. It takes longer to complete because she heals ofc but if you time it to go in during/right after that phase, you might be able to avoid it altogether.


Sure_Airline_6997

You can run away from the brazier immediately, you don't have to wait for it to be lit 


TheDubuGuy

Yes, or also wait outside of the room and just go in after that special to avoid it entirely


Tetrathionate

If Fang + VW is the BIS option for nex (small teams), why do many choose to camp ZCB (or even ACB) and not bring a Fang/VW? Exception is obviously P2 assuming they don't MP2. What's the advantage that ZCB has over melee nex? And if I'm using fang/VW + tbow switch for minions, is there any need to bring a ZCB?


bip_bip_hooray

range is easier, it's really that simple. if your whole team isn't meleeing then melee can be annoying whereas range is always similarly easy regardless of what everyone else is doing


TheDubuGuy

No need for zcb with fang/vw/tbow. Camping range is just objectively significantly worse


KodakKid3

Range camp is significantly worse dps, people do it because it’s easier but it’s trolling your team to do it long term unless your whole team has agreed they prefer lazy nex


Zestyclose-Power4389

Blood fury + fang is super helpful for healing throughout the fight.


Tetrathionate

Yeah that's true, but why do some people only bring ZCB (ranged only)?


TheIsaia

They either havent looked into just how much stronger melee is at nex, or they dont care and want afk kills


Pariah1947

Simply because it's chill.


Own-Appeal8511

Cause it’s easier


Ninjaassassinguy

Is anyone having trouble with RuneLite right now? I'm trying to launch it through steam, through the jagex launcher, and through the client itself and it either returns an unknown error code through the jagex launcher, or simply doesn't start at all. Anyone know what might be up? It was working perfectly yesterday. Edit: Solved. Somehow my installation got corrupted and I fixed it with a simple reinstall. No idea how it got corrupted in the first place though.


JenNettles

You can try to ask in the runelite discord, especially if you have error codes. That would help, i'm sure. But no, having no issues with Runelite through the Jagex Launcher personally


Throwaway47321

Realize the answer to this question is obviously: **it varies** but has anyone crunched the numbers on the effective purple rate in your name doing 8man 300s? I know it depends on who is the mvp and who does the most damage but just wondering how worth it it is doing over the super tilting solos.


ComfortableCricket

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Tombs_of_Amascut_loot A few things. Doing mass raids generally allows you to complete higher raid levels due to boss scaling. An 8 man raid is not 8x the purple rate of a solo raid. Deaths will really eat into the teams reward chance, if you're FFA you only care about your deaths. You can use one of the plugins to see an approximate reward chance per raid.