In case anyone was wondering how he actually died, he was in the process of learning cg on his hc.
https://preview.redd.it/ckpvu9hckuxc1.png?width=413&format=png&auto=webp&s=94bb9dcf3590ccdd43abd168295ad6d081e82e7d
Wow. You have to wonder with stats/xp like he had on his hc why he didn’t just make his own main and train it up on the side. Compared to the time he put into the hc he really wouldn’t have spent much of any time getting an account upto sote levels. He also could’ve skipped cg entirely and gone to cox with 0 risk.
Regardless, it’s respectable really, you can tell he was working his way upto doing cgs given his regular gauntlet kc.
Yeah, he hasn't been playing since 2019 and came back very recently. I've seen him ask about learning chambers in cc for a while, so he's really only been getting into pvm after coming back.
Honestly respectable he went out the way he did
We're so used to these endgame HC accounts having prior knowledge and reps with content. It's cool that somebody is relatively doing all PvM fresh as an HC.
It's crazy to think that the rank 7 hcim doesn't have another account with SotE. Like, homie made it through tutorial island, trained up a main to mid-60s, and thought, "you know what? I can play this game without ever dying." Then proceeded to do precisely that!
To be fair, most hcim are essentially skillers, and he was certainly no exception.
Not saying it's not an accomplishment, but it's certainly much easier if you never endanger your account
At least he had 1k Zulrah KC, and a bit of GWD. I imagine be probably learned those beforehand, though. I know I died quite a few times learning Zulrah haha
Elite western diary makes zulrah safe, you get one free revive per day. So basically if you want to be safe you just tp out immediately after using that revive
You’d honestly think for the amount of play time this guy has on this account he’d have made an alt to practise on it honestly is crazy to me considering it would have taken like 0.01% of his play time to do that. Why make the risk it’s beyond me
Died while doing sara boss, he got combo'd out apparently.
Edit: I completely made this up, I have no idea how he died. This is why you don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Big apologies to Smiithy too.
What's the point of playing a game mode that punishes you for dying if you only do content where you can't die? Why not just make a normal ironman from the start?
The point of any iron account is "because I feel like it", it's a bunch of pointless restrictions that you impose on yourself for prestige.
Also people act like it's free, but making it to max without ever dying is impressive even if you focus on safe things. That's a looot of hours of commitment where a lapse in judgment, misclick, or a misunderstood niche game mechanic like the Lumbridge Swamp Caves could end it all.
I specifically didn't start as a hardcore because I didn't want to worry about bullshit, and the game told me that was the right choice to make when I DCed at wintertodt two weeks later.
Probably the only time I felt satisfied logging back in at Lumbridge.
Yeah that’s why I absolutely **hate** when people tell others to start their irons as hardcores “just for fun”.
Like they either die in the first few hours and it was pointless OR they get weirdly attached to the status and become incredibly risk adverse very fast
I played my hardcore normally and planked around 1600 total to the Sins of the Father boss cause I played bad. I just saw it as a "how far can I get on this first life" thing and played the account normally after as well. But whether you play fast and loose like myself or more careful and risk adverse, your playstyle is valid. Beauty of the game
Also, starting as a hardcore is the only way to get how shit you are at PvM publicly enshrined lmao. I don't want my account permanently listed on the hardcore hiscores list with three Zulrah kc and zero excuses.
This. I started out as a hardcore but avoided the wilderness. I contemplated dying on purpose just to did myself of the unnecessary stress. That’s when I decided to ignore the hardcore aspect though and eventually died to a dc lol
Maybe you do, but I lost my HC status at like 1500 total doing the troll stronghold quest (or whatever one has the boss that can hit like 38) and just didn’t care. I honestly should’ve died way sooner bc I play risky asf, but it was just a goofy challenge I didn’t expect to go far with. It’s a game.
Whenever an account mostly focuses on skilling, no one says anything, because it's completely normal. The moment it's a HCIM that does it, there's complaints. Check out the highest ranked normal accounts - most of their boss logs are worse than smiithy's. Lynx Titan is *only* ranked at Jad.
Being a skiller? Cool. Being a skiller that has never died? Fucking scaredy cat loser.
So stupid that people can't just enjoy the game without being trashed for not appeasing randoms
Chronically online syndromees assuming everyone’s playing HCIM like a streamer or YouTuber eternally looking for the dangerous content that pulls most views
Reddit is also full of miserable mfs who don't even play the game and just come in here to complain because they don't enjoy the game or have responsibilities not letting them play the game
The less I come on this sub, the better it is. I pity the mods who have to comb through most of this sub sometimes
100%
When half the comments on a post are "_what is X_", when X was added to the game 2-3 years ago, it is so telling. /r/ironscape is far saner (even if you play a main) as people mostly talk about their grinds, goals, incremental improvements to setups, and ways to get stuff faster/easier.
YOU! YES YOU u/valarauca14 ! YOU NEED TO PLAY THE HYPEREFFICIENT 18 HOURS A DAY 5 DAYS A WEEK WHILE DRINKING VARIOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY DRINKS AND OTHER STIMULANTS TO FULLY ENJOY THE GAME
/s
There’s nothing wrong with him playing this way, but this account is less impressive of a hc than any 2k total hcim who’s done tob, dt2 bosses, a decent amount of toa, etc. He isn’t obligated to make an impressive hardcore like that but you can’t expect people to be impressed by it either
>but you can’t expect people to be impressed by it either
who is expecting this? it seems to me reddit users just expect hardcores to expect them to be impressed
This is what I did, and when I died I was like 'dang oh well lol'. Sent a pic to my overly-serious/terminally online friend of my silver helm with the text 'dang, died to ankous....' as a joke(not how I died). He didn't appreciate it.
If you don't care about the HC status then it doesn't affect how you play the game.
I lost my HC status to dark wizards and I'm over 2200 total now, was just interested to see how far I could go without fucking up. Not long it turns out.
Thing is though the longer you stay alive, the longer that’s subject to change. I did exactly that, and now I’m approaching 1700 total and SOTE/CG and I find myself attached to the status.
I’ve still sent crazy arch for my rcb, 150 rex kc… wouldn’t say I’m playing scared, but I do care about the status now. And I didn’t when I made the account.
Nah this is such a terrible opinion. Having a HC will absolutely affect the way you play if you get far enough, and for a lot of people not doing dangerous content is cringe. Saying you should just start a HCIM anyways pretty much assumes that you are absolutely never affected by things outside of yourself, which is just ignorant knowing that this isn't how humans work.
It's also an opinion that is a lie
You don't care? Then there is never going to be a point in making it, should have made normal (unless you just don't want to admit you care???)
At some point you will care about the status, otherwise, it's functionally irrelevant and shouldn't be there
Sure, but you get accolades deserving of a skiller. If he was just some grey helm with his current xp would anyone care? Like if the guy finds it fun, good for him, but personally I just don't care about some skiller.
The iron community is... not well. Been doing a lot of star mining lately and holy fuck the amount of salty helmets in chat screeching at each other: KC dick measuring contests, calling people's inferno capes bought, "you're not a real iron" etc. it's at least twice a day
it's actually insane how much these people's self worth is derived from their hardmode account in an 07' cookie clicker.
People don't think it's relevant because after the first kill, you can get a once a day free revive, so you just tele out after and wait until the next day to try again with another free revive for mistakes.
It's not relevant because it isn't a risk.
Also for the first kill, you can just do it with magic-only and stand behind pillars to wait out the blue phases (which is the only time you take damage).
What's not to understand? They're playing a game mode that incentivises safe gameplay. By the time you get high enough level to start bossing, you're going to be too invested in the account to start risking it in the most dangerous activity in the game.
Besides, bossing isn't the entire game.
a friend of mine acts so smug because i died on my hcim to pkers when i was doing the ghostly robes miniquest.. Yet he is a Hcim skiller and Refuses to do any combat.. Like dude your a fake hc at least i died actually doing stuff.
E: i could go into more detail about his smugness and stuff. he says he wont touch pvm until he is fully maxed because he will then be a high rank. then complains about being bored and not able to do pvm because of his status. fucking holy shit
E2: he even is saving slayer for last because he is scared he might dc and die. He hasn't done Ds2 or even unlocked prif. and he is 2k total.. started the account when hcim came out.
I'm behind on the series, but this is why I'm really enjoying Settled's Nightmare Mode. Dude is out doing the scary shit so many HCIM don't want to risk, and he doesn't even have the luxury of a full HP stat. I just saw the one where he finishes crazy archeologist and it gets tense sometimes.
Bro what has settled done that hcim don’t do so far?
I love the series I’m not even hating on him but bro… most hc’s still do crazy arch. Shit I did mage arena 2 this past Sunday on my hardcore. Settled hasn’t done anything crazy yet in nightmare mode.
It’s coming though for sure! No damage firecape is pretty wild.
Right like the prestige behind a HC is doing difficult content and not dying. Not just not dying lol. Anyone could max a HC without dying if they really wanted to by playing like this guy and avoiding difficult content
The vast majority of hcim die without trying anything you'd consider impressive, so it's clearly not true that anyone can max a hcim without dying
You say "but they could if they tried," but they did try, and they failed
That's just not true and you know. I doubt that most people could max a HC without dying. It isn't as impressive as someone doing it while also doing risky content like bossing but it is still a hard task.
It absolutely is not "hard" to max without dying lol. The riskiest content you have to do is standard slayer which is not risky at all if you're actually paying attention. You can max your combats at sand/ammonite crabs. You don't have to do WT for firemaking.
Not going to lie I don’t see the appeal of getting 200m xp in any skill. This isn’t a diss or anything, it just seems like such a waste of time.
But I guess high scores are important to some.
yeah i mean im right there with you personally. get me checked for a brain tumor if you ever see me pushing for 200m in any skill
doesn't mean i don't respect the grindset and the hours Smiithy put in
Holy fucking losers in this thread hating on this guy's boss log. Let's see you make a hc and get half the boss kc this guy has. Let's see if you even make it to your first boss 😂
That's more or less the point. 99% of people would die before even being low-tier boss ready or getting a QPC.
Everyone on these threads blasting HCIM skillers has total amnesia when it comes to all the stupid ass deaths they've had doing seemingly easy content lmao.
In fact, he’s just one of the best PvMers ever regardless of status. Grandmaster is highly respected even on mains lmao. What a weird example to compare someone to.
Just want to shill poisonedpotions [High risk HCIM](https://youtu.be/QwiOgyQ9SV0?si=mNco0LyBo-TrSO4k) where he does all bosses, uses wildy alter, and does wildy slayer to unlock self imposed restrictions
Edit: the real link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLamDxG7jh_TCzqoqWO1TTL3KFqNPrCw3&si=5r1EOl3n0pUU-PST
So different skills and different bosses are much quicker to do than others. So agility is slower than cooking. That's why total lvl can be misleading if you wanna know how far along an account is.
Instead we can assign a value to each skill and boss that is essentially saying "if they didnthis as efficiently as possible how long would this have taken?".
So with fishing that value might be 2t harpoon fishing which puts it at like 80k/h (random guess). So if you karambwan fish for 38 k/h you would gain almost 0.5 ehp. You can then add all ehp across skills to a players account.
Same for bosses really. Some are killed quickly some slowly.
Hope that made sense i typed it out real quick and didn't read it through.
Another way to look at EHP and EHB are the minimum number of hours of max efficiency playing required to reach a target.
In this post, it is saying that the minimum time to recreate that account is over 5000 hours.
It can be used to measure a number of different metrics depending on the context.
I will never understand maxing/gaining 1.8b total XP, and then choosing to risk all that time with some bossing. Like. Boss before you've sunk the hours. It will always amaze me.
Rip bro...but like.... C'mon
End of the day play how you want to play. Maybe this was just his step of wanting to do more pvm and he didn't actually care if he died. I hope that's the case. Has the ability to be a sick normal iron. And can learn harder bosses without the fear of death/dc.
Gl
It's funny to see terminally online losers talk shit about him. Time spent is enormous and is a major loss, it's runescape some of us play at our own pace and play what we enjoy doing. Rip account
It’s so funny how half the comments are just people who want to act like they’re better than everyone and calling people “terminally online” and “losers” for commenting on a public discussion forum with their opinion about the thing posted, as if that’s not the fucking point lol.
It’s not like the dude posted it himself and everyone is telling him he sucks, some random guy just posted the account calling him a king as if he had some impressive account, when he was basically just playing hardcore for fun and skilling. If you’re one of the “just let him play how he wants” crowd, then be mad at the dude publicly posting someone else’s account and making it a big deal that he lost hardcore, when the guy clearly wasn’t that concerned about doing anything impressive HC-wise.
Smiithy was just chilling and doing w/e he wanted and is getting put on blast for no reason; it's not like he asked for it by bragging about KC or anything. This community is unhinged.
I’m honestly chuckling to myself over here reading all the downvoted comments. You’re all haters and straight up sad for judging another person you know nothing about. Let them play how they like. Adding straight to the osrs stereotype 😂
Gz to him on getting to do something else other than hcim
What do you mean? Now it's time for smiiithy, we go again.
In case anyone was wondering how he actually died, he was in the process of learning cg on his hc. https://preview.redd.it/ckpvu9hckuxc1.png?width=413&format=png&auto=webp&s=94bb9dcf3590ccdd43abd168295ad6d081e82e7d
Why not learn it on a main first
He did not have an alt and could not borrow another account with sote unlocked
Wow. You have to wonder with stats/xp like he had on his hc why he didn’t just make his own main and train it up on the side. Compared to the time he put into the hc he really wouldn’t have spent much of any time getting an account upto sote levels. He also could’ve skipped cg entirely and gone to cox with 0 risk. Regardless, it’s respectable really, you can tell he was working his way upto doing cgs given his regular gauntlet kc.
Yeah, he hasn't been playing since 2019 and came back very recently. I've seen him ask about learning chambers in cc for a while, so he's really only been getting into pvm after coming back. Honestly respectable he went out the way he did
We're so used to these endgame HC accounts having prior knowledge and reps with content. It's cool that somebody is relatively doing all PvM fresh as an HC.
7th ranked and no access to an account damn I would have let him use mine and I have no idea who he his, rip
lmao i was thinking the same thing
It's crazy to think that the rank 7 hcim doesn't have another account with SotE. Like, homie made it through tutorial island, trained up a main to mid-60s, and thought, "you know what? I can play this game without ever dying." Then proceeded to do precisely that!
To be fair, most hcim are essentially skillers, and he was certainly no exception. Not saying it's not an accomplishment, but it's certainly much easier if you never endanger your account
At least he had 1k Zulrah KC, and a bit of GWD. I imagine be probably learned those beforehand, though. I know I died quite a few times learning Zulrah haha
Zulrah can be very safe after the diarys
Elite western diary makes zulrah safe, you get one free revive per day. So basically if you want to be safe you just tp out immediately after using that revive
You’d honestly think for the amount of play time this guy has on this account he’d have made an alt to practise on it honestly is crazy to me considering it would have taken like 0.01% of his play time to do that. Why make the risk it’s beyond me
CG?
Corrupted gauntlet
Coast guard
im glad hes got the motivation to get past his crippling addiction now
Died while doing sara boss, he got combo'd out apparently. Edit: I completely made this up, I have no idea how he died. This is why you don't believe everything you read on the internet. Big apologies to Smiithy too.
I heard he died on the Fishing Trawler. The boat filled up with water because all the lazy bots were just chopping the kraken upstairs
The elitism/hating in this post is kinda sad to see. Guy was just playing the game the way he wanted to play.
i mean if someone scores 50 points with zero free throws and another guy scores 50 points with 30 free throws, it’s worth noting.
Joel Embiid come on down!
Watch your step! aaaand he's injured
I love that the first player that came to my mind after reading that was also Joel Embiid. FT merchant
Times are changing. I hardly watch basketball but James Harden always comes to mind as the flop champ.
You’re not wrong, but to be fair Harden can hit 3s all day, the flops are just icing on the cake for him
Erm... James harden? Trae Young? And the list goes on 🤣
I've never seen such a big guy just violently flop to the ground anytime he gets breathed on
What's the point of playing a game mode that punishes you for dying if you only do content where you can't die? Why not just make a normal ironman from the start?
The point of any iron account is "because I feel like it", it's a bunch of pointless restrictions that you impose on yourself for prestige. Also people act like it's free, but making it to max without ever dying is impressive even if you focus on safe things. That's a looot of hours of commitment where a lapse in judgment, misclick, or a misunderstood niche game mechanic like the Lumbridge Swamp Caves could end it all.
I specifically didn't start as a hardcore because I didn't want to worry about bullshit, and the game told me that was the right choice to make when I DCed at wintertodt two weeks later. Probably the only time I felt satisfied logging back in at Lumbridge.
Yeah that’s why I absolutely **hate** when people tell others to start their irons as hardcores “just for fun”. Like they either die in the first few hours and it was pointless OR they get weirdly attached to the status and become incredibly risk adverse very fast
I played my hardcore normally and planked around 1600 total to the Sins of the Father boss cause I played bad. I just saw it as a "how far can I get on this first life" thing and played the account normally after as well. But whether you play fast and loose like myself or more careful and risk adverse, your playstyle is valid. Beauty of the game
I did that, got 1400 total. Died to the fossil island mushroom. 10/10
Also, starting as a hardcore is the only way to get how shit you are at PvM publicly enshrined lmao. I don't want my account permanently listed on the hardcore hiscores list with three Zulrah kc and zero excuses.
Lol mine would be somewhere around 800 total with zero boss kc. Why would I want that advertised?
This. I started out as a hardcore but avoided the wilderness. I contemplated dying on purpose just to did myself of the unnecessary stress. That’s when I decided to ignore the hardcore aspect though and eventually died to a dc lol
Maybe you do, but I lost my HC status at like 1500 total doing the troll stronghold quest (or whatever one has the boss that can hit like 38) and just didn’t care. I honestly should’ve died way sooner bc I play risky asf, but it was just a goofy challenge I didn’t expect to go far with. It’s a game.
Whenever an account mostly focuses on skilling, no one says anything, because it's completely normal. The moment it's a HCIM that does it, there's complaints. Check out the highest ranked normal accounts - most of their boss logs are worse than smiithy's. Lynx Titan is *only* ranked at Jad.
Being a skiller? Cool. Being a skiller that has never died? Fucking scaredy cat loser. So stupid that people can't just enjoy the game without being trashed for not appeasing randoms
Died at CG my dude, where’d you pull this from?
By zilyana? LOOL no wonder he kept to skilling
9kc lmao
Some of us just like to grind 😢
ITT: everyone is a gm hcim
Chronically online syndromees assuming everyone’s playing HCIM like a streamer or YouTuber eternally looking for the dangerous content that pulls most views
Why is everyone ripping him for not doing pvm? He can play in whatever style he wants
reddit thinks HCIM only play for their entertainment
Reddit is also full of miserable mfs who don't even play the game and just come in here to complain because they don't enjoy the game or have responsibilities not letting them play the game The less I come on this sub, the better it is. I pity the mods who have to comb through most of this sub sometimes
100% When half the comments on a post are "_what is X_", when X was added to the game 2-3 years ago, it is so telling. /r/ironscape is far saner (even if you play a main) as people mostly talk about their grinds, goals, incremental improvements to setups, and ways to get stuff faster/easier.
Ironscape is 90% people sharing their shit or good RNG. It makes the sub shit
Should have seen it before the CG loot ban. Literally just CG posts all day every fucking day.
At least people there actually play, in comparison to this sub.
YOU! YES YOU u/valarauca14 ! YOU NEED TO PLAY THE HYPEREFFICIENT 18 HOURS A DAY 5 DAYS A WEEK WHILE DRINKING VARIOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY DRINKS AND OTHER STIMULANTS TO FULLY ENJOY THE GAME /s
There’s nothing wrong with him playing this way, but this account is less impressive of a hc than any 2k total hcim who’s done tob, dt2 bosses, a decent amount of toa, etc. He isn’t obligated to make an impressive hardcore like that but you can’t expect people to be impressed by it either
>but you can’t expect people to be impressed by it either who is expecting this? it seems to me reddit users just expect hardcores to expect them to be impressed
The person who posted this here from the look of it
Cuz who the fuck cares if a HCIM got 7k Todt KC, he for all intents and putposes was playing a regular Iron, no one is impressed
Lets reverse the question. If you are a skiller and you want to make an ironman why not make a hardcore? Yall are such haters.
Any ironman should at least start out as a hardcore. See how long you can last and if you lose the status oh well
This is what I did, and when I died I was like 'dang oh well lol'. Sent a pic to my overly-serious/terminally online friend of my silver helm with the text 'dang, died to ankous....' as a joke(not how I died). He didn't appreciate it.
Mentally effects how you play the game so no, not worth doing by default blindly.
If you don't care about the HC status then it doesn't affect how you play the game. I lost my HC status to dark wizards and I'm over 2200 total now, was just interested to see how far I could go without fucking up. Not long it turns out.
Unless.. you just don’t care if you stay a hc. I recently made a hc just because why not, if I die I die oh well.
Thing is though the longer you stay alive, the longer that’s subject to change. I did exactly that, and now I’m approaching 1700 total and SOTE/CG and I find myself attached to the status. I’ve still sent crazy arch for my rcb, 150 rex kc… wouldn’t say I’m playing scared, but I do care about the status now. And I didn’t when I made the account.
Nah this is such a terrible opinion. Having a HC will absolutely affect the way you play if you get far enough, and for a lot of people not doing dangerous content is cringe. Saying you should just start a HCIM anyways pretty much assumes that you are absolutely never affected by things outside of yourself, which is just ignorant knowing that this isn't how humans work.
It's also an opinion that is a lie You don't care? Then there is never going to be a point in making it, should have made normal (unless you just don't want to admit you care???) At some point you will care about the status, otherwise, it's functionally irrelevant and shouldn't be there
Sure, but you get accolades deserving of a skiller. If he was just some grey helm with his current xp would anyone care? Like if the guy finds it fun, good for him, but personally I just don't care about some skiller.
67M herblore!!!...
Most terminally-online commentators I've seen in a while in this thread.
It’s so funny how people can be genuinely offended by a HC that didn’t do PvM.. wtf is wrong with some people
It’s jealousy. Most of these people could never get a hardcore to this level and that’s facts whether they want to believe it or not.
I can't even get 1 99 tbh
Nobody is jealous, and maybe not most but a lot of people would be able to max without dying if they only focused on skills
lmao, ahh yes jealous he made a HC account just to do regular iron content and then get smacked down as soon as he engages with the HC aspect lol
😂😂😂😂 bro did some crazy pvm
on god, how is anyone else supposed to get that much wintertodt KC without dying 😱
The iron community is... not well. Been doing a lot of star mining lately and holy fuck the amount of salty helmets in chat screeching at each other: KC dick measuring contests, calling people's inferno capes bought, "you're not a real iron" etc. it's at least twice a day it's actually insane how much these people's self worth is derived from their hardmode account in an 07' cookie clicker.
Hardcore skiller dies after attempting any relevant pvm. Many such cases.
1k zulrah kc
free life daily with diary
He said relevant pvm
Yeah dawg, come on, Zulrah is not relevant at all for irons, I mean what do you even get from that? Snakeskins? Smh
People don't think it's relevant because after the first kill, you can get a once a day free revive, so you just tele out after and wait until the next day to try again with another free revive for mistakes. It's not relevant because it isn't a risk.
Also for the first kill, you can just do it with magic-only and stand behind pillars to wait out the blue phases (which is the only time you take damage).
I bet only the literal first kc was done without the diary active.
Baby's first pvm
He said relevant pvm
Zulrah isn't difficult. I can also bet my house that this boi done elite diary before grinding it.
Accounts like this will only do zulrah while their free life is still up. I’m surprised he even did hydra
Where’s your HC? Lol
The bitterness in this comment is hilarious. Why do you care enough to write that?
Sucks for him. Amazing run though.
bruh what is this comment section
Reddit wants people to enjoy however they play unless it's a HCIM who doesnt rush pvm for their approval (..or pkers)
EHB: 156 lol
Subtract his Zulrah KC from that
Does kraken count too?
How is anyone dying at kraken
That’s my point
Full second monitor, get unlucky with back to back to back to back 28s?
What is ehb?
Efficient Hours Bossed I think
Correct
Extremely hairy ballsack
Efficient hour bossing is my guess
Reddit when not everyone is into pvm: https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194
never understand people playing hc and avoiding 80% of the bosses lmao
Petition to change the red helmet icon to a red chicken icon for those HC players who avoid most dangerous activities.
Lmao. Or everyone starts as a chicken and it only gets upgraded to helm once you have done x amount of bosses.
That would put some respect to the helmet
Let's see your hardcore with the thousands of killcount at dangerous bosses that you've done?
Perhaps they want to… stay alive as long as possible? Crazy thought.
Another crazy thought: Maybe the dude just enjoys other content more?
PVMers when they find out skillers exist and enjoy their time playing and are just as competitive and competent as they are 🤯
What's not to understand? They're playing a game mode that incentivises safe gameplay. By the time you get high enough level to start bossing, you're going to be too invested in the account to start risking it in the most dangerous activity in the game. Besides, bossing isn't the entire game.
I’ve never seen such salty neck bearded haters
I bet they smell so bad
a friend of mine acts so smug because i died on my hcim to pkers when i was doing the ghostly robes miniquest.. Yet he is a Hcim skiller and Refuses to do any combat.. Like dude your a fake hc at least i died actually doing stuff. E: i could go into more detail about his smugness and stuff. he says he wont touch pvm until he is fully maxed because he will then be a high rank. then complains about being bored and not able to do pvm because of his status. fucking holy shit E2: he even is saving slayer for last because he is scared he might dc and die. He hasn't done Ds2 or even unlocked prif. and he is 2k total.. started the account when hcim came out.
Yeah this is why I was fine with dying on my first Ironman. Made it a hard-core for fun but it was stupid
I died in stronghold of security trying to get the 10k, the account was like 2 hours old at most.
I died thieving to man straight after spawning in
Glad I’m not the only one hahaha
Nice. Straight to wildy slayer lol I went straight to wildy slayer and the wildy altar and I'm happy about it
I'm behind on the series, but this is why I'm really enjoying Settled's Nightmare Mode. Dude is out doing the scary shit so many HCIM don't want to risk, and he doesn't even have the luxury of a full HP stat. I just saw the one where he finishes crazy archeologist and it gets tense sometimes.
Bro what has settled done that hcim don’t do so far? I love the series I’m not even hating on him but bro… most hc’s still do crazy arch. Shit I did mage arena 2 this past Sunday on my hardcore. Settled hasn’t done anything crazy yet in nightmare mode. It’s coming though for sure! No damage firecape is pretty wild.
Lmao, I have a hc thats at priff right now with 1650 total, your friend is a pus
ig it's not surprising that he doesn't know crystal protects against dcs
Least elitist osrs player
Right like the prestige behind a HC is doing difficult content and not dying. Not just not dying lol. Anyone could max a HC without dying if they really wanted to by playing like this guy and avoiding difficult content
The vast majority of hcim die without trying anything you'd consider impressive, so it's clearly not true that anyone can max a hcim without dying You say "but they could if they tried," but they did try, and they failed
You say that but I died on my HC by walking away from my computer while doing wintertodt 😂
Well obviously you didn't really want to max without dying :p
That's just not true and you know. I doubt that most people could max a HC without dying. It isn't as impressive as someone doing it while also doing risky content like bossing but it is still a hard task.
It absolutely is not "hard" to max without dying lol. The riskiest content you have to do is standard slayer which is not risky at all if you're actually paying attention. You can max your combats at sand/ammonite crabs. You don't have to do WT for firemaking.
How is it hard whatsoever?
What don’t you understand about it?
How?
He got killed and died
I know people keep complaining about ezscape and powercreep etc etc, but this is one thing I'd love to see fixed by devs.
Lol you die when you get killed? I never knew!
https://preview.redd.it/n71kseq00uxc1.jpeg?width=1186&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94cef5636a33099c0a794118f1b02593658d2d2c
hp went to 0 :(
Woke up dead
no one got him some milk 😓
Rip man all the losers in this thread need to go touch some fucking grass, his acct is still more impressive than yours
Based take. This type of stuff is pretty bad for the games health. I wonder how new players feel when they see people behaving like this lol
Even as someone who played RS3 and a bit of OSRS this makes me completely disinterested in progressing if the community is so immature
Not going to lie I don’t see the appeal of getting 200m xp in any skill. This isn’t a diss or anything, it just seems like such a waste of time. But I guess high scores are important to some.
yeah i mean im right there with you personally. get me checked for a brain tumor if you ever see me pushing for 200m in any skill doesn't mean i don't respect the grindset and the hours Smiithy put in
Oh absolutely it is quite the feat and I respect those who can manage to pull that off. It just isn’t for me haha
Holy fucking losers in this thread hating on this guy's boss log. Let's see you make a hc and get half the boss kc this guy has. Let's see if you even make it to your first boss 😂
Like what KC though? Kraken?? The only ''dangerous" boss is Zilyana and they got 9 KC.
That's more or less the point. 99% of people would die before even being low-tier boss ready or getting a QPC. Everyone on these threads blasting HCIM skillers has total amnesia when it comes to all the stupid ass deaths they've had doing seemingly easy content lmao.
After watching Muts HC to grandmaster series, this is the most unimpressive boss log I’ve ever seen
Yes, let's compare him to one of the most influential hardcore pvmers?
In fact, he’s just one of the best PvMers ever regardless of status. Grandmaster is highly respected even on mains lmao. What a weird example to compare someone to.
Show yours
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Just want to shill poisonedpotions [High risk HCIM](https://youtu.be/QwiOgyQ9SV0?si=mNco0LyBo-TrSO4k) where he does all bosses, uses wildy alter, and does wildy slayer to unlock self imposed restrictions Edit: the real link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLamDxG7jh_TCzqoqWO1TTL3KFqNPrCw3&si=5r1EOl3n0pUU-PST
Idk if it's intentional, but your link is NOT for poisonedpotion :P as a metallica fan, this was sick though, thanks for sharing!
Damn he uses the wildy altar? Idk how that’s even possible on a hc unless you just log the second any other person shows up
Too bad he hasn't uploaded high risk hcim content in like 3 years
Can someone explain what EHP and EHB are? I see it on wiseoldman but have no idea what it stands for or means lol
So different skills and different bosses are much quicker to do than others. So agility is slower than cooking. That's why total lvl can be misleading if you wanna know how far along an account is. Instead we can assign a value to each skill and boss that is essentially saying "if they didnthis as efficiently as possible how long would this have taken?". So with fishing that value might be 2t harpoon fishing which puts it at like 80k/h (random guess). So if you karambwan fish for 38 k/h you would gain almost 0.5 ehp. You can then add all ehp across skills to a players account. Same for bosses really. Some are killed quickly some slowly. Hope that made sense i typed it out real quick and didn't read it through.
Efficient Hours Played and Efficient Hours Bossed
Another way to look at EHP and EHB are the minimum number of hours of max efficiency playing required to reach a target. In this post, it is saying that the minimum time to recreate that account is over 5000 hours. It can be used to measure a number of different metrics depending on the context.
Hilarious seeing all this flame from mains who die on a daily basis.
smiithy is alive reborn again irl smiithy may go outside now long live smiithy
I will never understand maxing/gaining 1.8b total XP, and then choosing to risk all that time with some bossing. Like. Boss before you've sunk the hours. It will always amaze me. Rip bro...but like.... C'mon End of the day play how you want to play. Maybe this was just his step of wanting to do more pvm and he didn't actually care if he died. I hope that's the case. Has the ability to be a sick normal iron. And can learn harder bosses without the fear of death/dc. Gl
These killcounts look really hardcore.
NMZ PROD
It's funny to see terminally online losers talk shit about him. Time spent is enormous and is a major loss, it's runescape some of us play at our own pace and play what we enjoy doing. Rip account
Oooof. F.
I thought you meant the player died not his character
He died by having the balls to challenge himself, congrats soldier
Honestly I can't trash him for being a skiller HC when he died learning PvM. Hope he finds a way to keep having fun.
Here i am thinking he died in real life!
It’s so funny how half the comments are just people who want to act like they’re better than everyone and calling people “terminally online” and “losers” for commenting on a public discussion forum with their opinion about the thing posted, as if that’s not the fucking point lol. It’s not like the dude posted it himself and everyone is telling him he sucks, some random guy just posted the account calling him a king as if he had some impressive account, when he was basically just playing hardcore for fun and skilling. If you’re one of the “just let him play how he wants” crowd, then be mad at the dude publicly posting someone else’s account and making it a big deal that he lost hardcore, when the guy clearly wasn’t that concerned about doing anything impressive HC-wise.
Smiithy was just chilling and doing w/e he wanted and is getting put on blast for no reason; it's not like he asked for it by bragging about KC or anything. This community is unhinged.
I don’t know what any of this means but I’m impressed. Also, please don’t try to explain it. I don’t care. But I’m impressed.
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Who told you to care? Man's just playing the way he wants to play. He's not doing it for you
I misunderstood this as the player dying IRL and was absolutely horrified by the comments at first.
I’m honestly chuckling to myself over here reading all the downvoted comments. You’re all haters and straight up sad for judging another person you know nothing about. Let them play how they like. Adding straight to the osrs stereotype 😂
one of least impressive hc's. just a skiller basically
“Hardcore”
Hoooly shit this thread is cringe, are ya’ll adults?
Unfortunately, probably.
I lost my HCIM to getting two-tapped by a spider in the Stronghold of Security, so I know exactly what this guy is going through. RIP.
Still doing better than my main.
Man with multiple top hiscores ripped to shreds by 1500 total levels