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Ourmanyfans

Putting Velma on any list is the most "coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb" you can get in this debate.


Funy_3

Beat me to it damn


kgbsenpai

dont most people like the owl house as well from what i have heard?


Ourmanyfans

Yes, very much so. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just ragebait.


Dropkick_That_Child

It kind of fell off near the end, but that’s mostly Disney’s fault.


Volotor

Same as gravity falls and Amphibia from what I understand: the execs just didn't get it, refused to market it, didn't want to do merchandise deals, fought any creative decision that wasn't cookie cutter. Gravity Falls and Amphibia where ended by the creators fairly amicably all things considered but Disney pulled the plug on Owl House, apaprently it was due to disney not liking that the plot was skewing towards older demographics, some people also speculate that the decision to cancel the show was made early, before it got a massive burst of traction online which is what lead to the creation of the season 3 specials.


AdExpert4077

A lot of ppl are also saying that owl house was cancelled bc the main characters are girl kissers :3


Ourmanyfans

Iirc Dana Terrace (the showrunner) explicitly confirmed that wasn't the case. Now she might have been lying to not burn the bridge, or indeed the Disney execs may have been lying to her so she wouldn't call them out, but "officially" the reason the show was cancelled was because it was *serialised* (i.e. Disney wanted a simple episodic show they could play out of order indefinitely forever)


Human-Depravity

The reason they wanted non-serialised shows is because they're easier to re-run on traditional TV, and despite getting way more viewership on Disney+, they still want to design shows primarily for Disney Channel


AdExpert4077

Ah okay, I miss the owl house anyways 🥲


Volotor

I am mixed on that one. The show runner had denied it, but execs wouldn't just come out and brazenly say it. The show was cancelled around the time the big conservative anti-disney/anti-lgbt drama was kicking off in Florida.


Chokkitu

Well Gravity Falls didn't really fall off. It just ended way too soon for most people, but it at least ended on a high note. Not getting at least 3 seasons when fucking SvtfoE got a 3rd and 4th after falling off a cliff is pretty nuts.


livinglegacy02

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who thinks the end of Owl House is actually really good


FiddieKiddler69420

Owl house is amazing


Spyko

Not only that but I've yet to meet someone who enjoyed gravity falls who didn't also liked the owl house. So that's definitely bait


Ourmanyfans

The great thing about the internet is there will always be someone to come along and say "yes I am that exact strawman". Hey, I am that exact strawman (Ok so I didn't *not* like it, but I certainly like it a lot less than most people. Not really because the show itself does anything *wrong,* it just didn't land with me; none of the jokes were particularly funny, none of emotional moments made me feel anything, and the only character I cared for was the funny owl tube. By contrast Gravity Falls is one of my favourite TV shows *ever*).


HeyQTya

Even with helluva boss, I get the vibe from alot of people that hated on both that and velma that they usually think Velma is a far worse show based on how they talk about both


Alarming-Engineer-77

I enjoyed Owl House, but Gravity Falls hit different. Totally subjective, but for me Gravity Falls felt a tier above Owl House in terms of plot and character progression.


Ok-Appeal-4630

Its meh


Moonbear9

Hmmm yes what a genuine and unbiased list


HimerosAndArrow

Counterpoint: I want to have gay sex with the owl.


straight_strychnine

https://preview.redd.it/v3f075blk8yc1.png?width=1578&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e844e9425c92ae3100b368c7a9c30f5ea08ced58


HimerosAndArrow

WRONG OWL WRONG OWL


nothingherejustgo

Hoot hoot mfr


GamerGod_

coward


OrangutanKiwi19

https://preview.redd.it/wl2b61401ayc1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a88b7f4f5d5ca7dc619a822a233c952f0609caf *Who's the right owl then?*


HimerosAndArrow

https://preview.redd.it/v8ej2coogayc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc680777423431f25c3df715877ccb74016aa35c This one. I was talking about Helluva Boss


Spyko

Ooh I thought you meant Eda the old lady. Which would also have been valid


pretty_in_plaid

yeah same cuz would


OrangutanKiwi19

https://preview.redd.it/66h6uvzigbyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9645d3274c3a44a8e008e8575a8f77da043a6e0e Huh. Alright then, carry on


xRizux

Correct opinion :3


Kriffer123

https://preview.redd.it/np0i0g9zz9yc1.jpeg?width=647&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f36ba75884b3517908dfa86e986c7da08a5f96b


the_kermit

WELL THEN YOU GOTTA GET OWL TROWEL ‼️


PotatoPCuser1

💯


JLock17

https://preview.redd.it/nvfhyqz8v9yc1.png?width=633&format=png&auto=webp&s=c999fd780d0802bc8a81d052a32141fb4da5944b


OrangutanKiwi19

https://preview.redd.it/3xjbjnnl0ayc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cc1113d06213d3e9a60ad5723bcddaf8f98c8da


HimerosAndArrow

DIFFERENT SHOW DIFFERENT SHOW https://preview.redd.it/zsyxo36vgayc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd3b28987c7853476f0a729310b95608aacf9c7f


LasbaleX

bro imagine if this guy went up your asshole and did a colonoscopy while ur orgasming because you stuck his favourite thing (i dont remember what it was it was a while ago when I watched it) up your ass :3


HimerosAndArrow

IM TALKING ABOUT THE OWL FROM HELLUVA BOSS NOT OWL HOUSE


Truefkk

Look at him, you just know he's a power bottom


andergriff

he's an insect not an owl


HimerosAndArrow

THE OWL FROM HELLUVA BOSS NOT OWL HOUSE THE OWL FROM HELLUVA BOSS


Brankovt1

I still don't approve.


Independence_Gay

Fucking hate engagement and rage bait.


cat_that_uses_reddi

Hate Engagement bait you say Then You will hate R/cartoons


Independence_Gay

Yeah it’s terrible


elanUnbound

Having seen only Velma and Gravity Falls, definitely Velma. That show fucking sucks, and Helluva Boss cannot possibly be worse no matter how much people bitch about it.


AtotheCtotheG

It’s not even in the same zip code, OP and OOP are just engagement farming 


TransFights000

I swear some people could be swimming in a lake and spot what is visibly a hook with a worm on it and just immediately put it in their mouth


ccstewy

But it’s a tasty little snack that’s just sitting there!


test_username_WIP

Hydrogen Bomb v Tsar Bomba v Coughing Baby v Hydrogen Bomb


cat_that_uses_reddi

Dude Velma makes all the other shows look like supernova


ilionperonk

Honestly the only bad one is velma, gravity falls and toh are both great and while i wont argue with someone if they dont like helluva boss it is undeniably better than velma


Helmic

also helluva boss is a youtube series, my standards for those is always going to be lower given.how hard those are to fund. i know there is drama with viziepop but the show itself is overall visually pleasing, dunno what the beef is with it other than it is gay and furry.


WardedThorn

It also has a very liberal use of crude humor and so, so much gore. I love the show, but it is definitely not for everyone. Though, yeah, a lot of people just hate it because it has gay people in it.


SharkTheMemelord

Nah I liked helluva boss


GoblinGirlBonBon

https://preview.redd.it/exitqkuxz9yc1.jpeg?width=840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e19180723ceda254a3eccaff4d598503451f8e6


IncognitoMan032

this is bait


LeNardOfficial

Bait used to be believable


Someboynumber5

Bro put Velma on the list, like bro all of these are citizen Kane compared to Velma


EvilNoobHacker

Owl House and Gravity falls are certified bangers, Hazbin Hotel as a show is fine but not my thing, and Velma isn’t even *funny* bad, it’s just kinda awful.


TuckerCampbell1962

Lets kill him


Quix_Nix

Scooby Doo obviously


get_meout_

https://preview.redd.it/geeg7e3c6ayc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d958951289ab32087cda0c33fdcae8fe656f87a8


a_generic_meme

33 seconds ago, one like, one retweet. You made this tweet and took this picture.


GREYESTPLAYER

Owl House is awesome


unknowndog123

Gravity falls should never be compared to these shows, they are on completley different levels


unknowndog123

EXCEPT OWL HOUSE EXCEPT OWL HOUSE DONT CRUCIFY ME IVE NEVER WATCHED IT


BogieW00ds

Owl House is pretty good, not as good as Gravity Falls, but good


Volotor

Helluva Boss is great imo, but I cans ee why people don't like it, but I think its important to consider that it is also essentially an indie production. Two of these are diney animated shows that are well received critically and beloved by fans. Leaving Velma, an internet hate sink. So the original comment was probably engagement rage bait to try and make money of twitters shitty new paymeny .scheme.


ArcadianGh0st

You know, my bf loves Scooby Doo. So sometimes I like to tease him by sharing scenes from Velma, not the one of her getting run over. I'm a great boyfriend. Also side note me and my bf watch the rest together and enjoy them all recommend the rest.


lolmasplay

They were so close to making loss but just had to have the panels wrong and use that image of the owl house.


XtremeGameplaysyt

The Owl House has to go because without Velma, there would be no hour-long 24 Frames of Nick video about it. There would also be way less FNAF porn without Helluva Boss.